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I was researching recent performances, and the Russians look in really good form, and they seem to score a few.

Round thing
Anger
Unadulterated joy!

Poland 1 - 0 Greece
Russia 1 -1 Czechs

In other news, I purchased a Panini sticker album yesterday. 50p a pack. I can see myself getting sucked in and wasting precious funds on doubles of Wesley Sneijder.

when I found out van Bommel was captain of Holland. Shexy fooshtball anyone?

i've just checked my Rand McNally atlas, and i don't think it even exists!

Paulo Sergio and Hearts part company. It was about time really, he had been there an awfully long time.

Poland 1 Greece 0
Russia 1 Czech Republic 1

to shout at the ref all the game

went to the pub the other day, and they were showing bloody cycling and golf on the tv!

i picked out Poland in the office sweepstakes. This bad because they suck, but it is good because they are the hosts and therefore might win

people never seem to acknowledge that this might be negated by the fact that they didn't have to qualify so haven't played competitive football in 2 years

is giving minute by minute updates on what is happening at the England training session.

I've never seen anything like it.

I didn't know that was allowed.

And according to some economist on the radio yesterday, this'll be the best result in terms of the Euro economy. Allez les bleus!

Poland weren't at the last world cup either though so it's more like 3 years

gutting. got a bet on a holland v germany final.

Suspicious.

Feels like more.

and is concerned with his own actions: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/181119_10151024022875390_1620754415_n.jpg

at least for an each way.

seem to have gone very short recently though.

Happy with that.

Russia 2 Czech Republic 0

BOLD

the czechs are fucking awful these days

Russia 0-0 Czech Republic

I reckon they'll go quite far.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3284/euro-2012/2012/06/08/3156515/duncan-jenkins-guide-to-euro-2012

Which 90% of the time were shockingly alligned.

that was amazing.

and I may be wrong, if a player appears for one nation in a non competitive fixture then he can still play for another he is eligible for. So, if Motta appeared for Brazil in a Friendly only then he was still eligible for Italy. However, as soon as he appeared in a qualifier for the Azzurri, he couldn't appear again for Brazil.

As I say, probably completely wrong - but fun thinking about it.

Animated histories of different teams narrated by James Richardson: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/series/euro-2012-animated-histories

Their so-called Expert's Network, taking nice articles about players and teams that don't really get decent coverage in the UK press: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/series/euro-2012-experts-network

Ah, memories.

Laughing far too much for the office.

Theodor Gebre Selassie's going to win player of the tournament

:D

*His painful slide into a Bolivian* had me

into the spirit of things with cardboard cutouts and photos of Nicklas Bendtner,Christian Ericksson and others everywhere. There's a nifty 4 storey number on the Illum building at the end of Stroget.

I hope they do well for the missuss' sake but I can't see past Joachim Low's tailored shirts and Holland in that group. I'll be in Berlin on the day of the final so throwing my support to Germany... Ozil Macht Frei.

Drawn England in the work sweepstakes.

they'll be lucky if he ever even looks up to see a cross coming

So when he was described as Balotelli's international teammate in a few articles I got quite confused, but wikipedia lists him playing for both sides. Guess it must have been only friendlies for Brazil, seems sensible enough.

There is however a prize for the team with the most red cards. It's possible with that lot I guess.

worth a punt at those odds I reckon

I said this first so no one copy me when it becomes clear I am right

I shall not be defeated

you take him

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/brendan-s-letter-to-swansea

wasn't there some 'controversy' about Welbeck playing for England against Ghana, purely to make sure he wouldn't be able to play for Ghana in the future...then it turned out that as it was only a friendly it didn't matter anyway. Still I guess it meant England had first dibs on him

Is a blessing (well after work for me at least)

Stupid rule, imo.

has it always been like that? i remember Stuart McCall saying he got picked for England u21s and was gonna be subbed on but he deliberately delayed getting ready because he wanted to remain eligible for Scotland

'cos last time I was real excited by an international tournament it was really pretty rubbish (I've got a bet with myself on who'll be the first person to revise World Cup 2010's history, can't lose). Then again, it'd be pretty funny to follow Platini's mental breakdown if it does descend into farce.

I'd quite like Poland to do well.

I don't get it.

Gonna miss half the games unless I hang about in pubs :(

Was much better in 2010 when I could secretly stream most of the games live

the last Euros and the last couple of World Cups have been a bit poor.

Tournaments always seem better when the home nation performs well.
That and the fact I'm genuinely interested in their 3 players who have just won the Bundesliga with Dortmund: Lewandowski, Blaszczykowski & Piszczek.
Heard great things about them so I've padded out my fantasy teams with them as they're ridiculously cheap.
Guardian are now reporting the Poland manager has said Lewandowski is going to Man Utd, Blaszczykowski off to somewhere in England & Piszczek to Real Madrid.

http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4352267#r6801357

apart from it being quite underwhelming

http://tinyurl.com/c3kh8pp

much of it was garbage.

Things changed relatively recently. As DK says above, it's a pretty stupid rule. But I'm a massive footballing Tory.

Ferdinand eh? Whats that all about?!

extrapolated into satirical journalist form.

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/Tour_News/0,,10268~2805717,00.html

so at least if England crash and burn i'll have a reason to back Sweden.

and I second that emotion. Would be pretty amazing to be caught up in the victory parade

Who is the half-brother of Joey Gudjonsson and a couple of others who played at Stoke when they went through that mad Icelandic phase.

*Scored 11 in 13 for Lillestrom this season.

who knows how your mind works?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m01yipkXfk1qaafy0o9_r1_250.gif
he's like a cartoon

WHO'S NOT EVEN IN THE SQUAD

it would make me really sad, that would.

you're sorted.

budget cuts?

purely because every Bayern fan I met and spoke to when in Munich for the Champion's League final were tops- really good humoured, keen to chat, very complimentary of Chelsea and England, very gracious about their own sides and players.

and the locals were charming and helpful to a man.

Lovely place

But people still remember that Tim Lovejoy supports Chelsea as well.

Should clarify, I *want* England to win, and then if not them Ireland, but ... Well, y'know.

Remember the war, yeah? This country.

Ball juggling certainly isn't one of his strengths

and I can't help but wish them well

FOOOOOOOOTBALL

Why am I in work? There's football on.

I think that's the deal they agreed on. Opening in Poland closing in Ukraine.

Poland Vs Greece...gutted!

No.

FFS. Just not Christian Poulsen. Please. Not Christian Poulsen!

Poland deserve it. They've started very brightly and looked sharp up front.

several people said i should and i trusted and believed them but i still didn't do it.
ffs. 33/fucking1

ffs

Can see Poland getting another two goals out of this game.

that's his thing

Would make sense

in an international tournament.

can't see him get another game.

still...looks cool

for no reason in an international tournament, I was winding PocketMouse up about Kaka. Good times.

relax guys

20-1 odds. 4 quid each way.

5 seconds later the odds were down to 10. Timing (won't happen though.)

Good first half. The Dortmund guys on Poland's right side look class. The Greeks were coming back into it though, shame the referee had to go and ruin it. Neither challenge was a booking there, or even a foul- ridiculously harsh.

It was freaking awesome.

What was the keeper doing?

I want Greece to win this.......Not in a 'ALL POLANDISH PEOPLE ARE RACISMS' way, just think they need a boost.

That and my housemate is Greek..

Big fan of Szcz?sny fucking up.

Greece, down to 10 men, drawing the opening game, 30 minutes left ... They won't leave their half of the pitch again.

Gutsy move, that.

Well. certainly looked like they only had 3 defending then, anyway.

That's a bunch of people's fantasy teams ruined then.

haha.

the gift that just keeps giving

SAVER OF PENALTIES

who stop playing before the game has stopped- why the fuck does the penalty taker drop to his knees when the ball is still in play?

If they don't win, then I'll admit that i was just joking.

Can't shot for toffee, but he's held the ball up and kept possession when completely isolated really well.

4 goals in his last 26 games in the SPL is as damning a statistic as exists for a striker.

Szczesny fucking up repeatedly- EURO 2012 has delivered

Come on DK!

until you lose your first 2 games at least.
turns out i don't care about Ireland when Andy O'Brien isn't in the squad

but thanks for the support!

Similar vein to those world's worst waxworks you see.

very highly rated.

Having said that, his striking of the ball is frequently woeful - his redeeming factor is that it is inexplicably difficult to get the ball off him, so he can hold it up well. He also manages to go on baffling 50-yard runs somehow, he's quite majestic to watch once you get used to how frustrating he is.

Injured or out of favour or summat?

Elton John, Jim Davidson, Paul Burrell and Jar Jar Binks

Italy will be the singingest as per usual, but it's nice to see some others putting the effort in.

That advert with Chris Kamara in it is going to have fucked me right off by the end of the tournament.

I think I've only ever seen 3 of them play

I've got Italy.

should get Sinitta on

Adrian Chiles' background appears to be a random bar and some parked cars.

went for Cech instead. Anyway not playing him for the first round because I think Russia should win this.

Denmark did play incredibly poorly though.

how's the racism been so far?

Big fan of anyone who isn't from England being called Alan.

dumb fuck.

*the first goal, A RED RUSSIAN GOAL* weak

God, so glad that I'm not one of those people who gives a shit about being good at fantasy football.

they'll never catch him

"A COMMIE BASTARD GOAL". He needn't mince his words like that.

pretty sure he just saw they were wearing red.

THE RED CUNTTS!

Getting suitably excited, done their homework on the players, and generally positive about the game.

Bbc were wayyy too cynical and negative about their game.

should've been 3 easily.

etc etc

this guy is all about the alliteration.

btw, anyone else see the reds romping this group?

I expect this to finish at least 5 - 0

spent about 90seconds going on how they were the two worst sides in the tournament.

and the linekar/hansen smugfest is nearly too much to bear.

the russian defence showing stalinist levels of discipline under threat!

the czechs are really under seige now!

had a nibble

could be 3-1.

who really is the most dreary, gratingly soporific summariser.

I'm gonna say spurs. Outside bet: sunderland.

check

:(

Usually like Lee Dixon but he was a grump too.

stop it

west brom

Really entertaining to watch

i thought about west brom. Was gonna say wolves until i realised they'd been relegated.

they're looking impressive so far

Advocaat has them playing precisely the right tactics too by the looks of things

you'd imagine both these teams would progress from the group though

makes a bit more sense I guess.

Russia may regret missing all those opportunities yet, though I doubt it still, Russia to win 5 - 1

Love it when a camera man gets bored and perves on a hot east European woman

I was too busy wanking to make sure

right, guys?

surely

:(

is what you may be looking for?

http://i.imgur.com/fjfIf.gif

^_^

But still, timing!

:''''''''''')

I'm really disappointed that he's been substituted

because Russia conceded. Damn.

*shakes head*

that was a bit good wasn't it?

hope they keep that in the highlights package

got his hand to a couple as well - he'll be disappointed he didn't keep them out

http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4352267#r6800579

those were really powerful strikes, to the extent where I didn't expect him to keep them out

Arshavin is such a player when he can be arsed. Dzagoev, what a prospect. The Zenit 3 in midfield - fluid. Liquid football.

Arshavin was incredible

Not sure that he really needs to reflect on his performance too much though. Any keeper is fucked when their defence plays like that.

sheffield wednesday sign football manager legend joe mattock on a free transfer from west brom.

impressive signing - very pleased with our transfer business so far this summer!

I was falling bad for him, not blaming him

seriously.

give the impression of defending.

Very good from Russia. Very poor from the Czech Republic.

Honestly one of the worst goalies in the world.

Joe Hart hasn't had time to cost England the Euros yet.

Wroclaw, for instance. Since when was that pronounced 'rock-law'? Its's 'Vrot-suav, right? The BBC should know that.

Slightly less confident about Warsaw being pronounced 'va-shov', but i've always said it that way 'Leggy Vashov' (Legia Warsaw).

Something about Munich/Munchen.

say something interesting, g'wan...

is going to pay well over the odds for Dzagoev on the back of a couple of good performances only for him to be thoroughly average for three years then?

and perform well against Poland and Greece. My plan is to play Cech for those games. For this round I've got him on the bench and Isaksson in goal. Having said that I've never played fantasy football before.

GREAT BANTS, LADZ.

nah i'm good

Twats

and gotze

they're both better than him. probably.

It made me feel quite sad noticing he is more than 6 months younger than me :(

Also: Dzagoev was born 3 days after me.

Polish pronunciation of Wroclaw is 'vrot-swav', Polish pronunciation of Warsaw is 'Var-Shav-a", and it's spelt differently - Warszawa. Calling Wroclaw 'Rock Law' is fucking lazy, but I wouldn't expect anything less from BBC commentators.

Also 'Lodz' is pronounced 'Woodge', not 'Lodz'. Just as well there aren't any games there.

To be fair.

:D

Holland 2 Denmark 1
Germany 3 Portugal 2

Germany 3-0 Portugal
2 cracking games

Germany 2-1 Portugal

So thrilled with how exciting yesterday's games were. Hopefully these two won't disappoint.

next season really might be the most likeable Premier League season ever. Quite excited about some of the managerial appointments. Big fan of Rodgers, Lambert, Hughton, even quite like Clarke. Hopefully, di Matteo will get the Chelsea job, sounds like Laudrup may be going to Swansea, and McDermott & Adkins are sound lads, too.

Course, Big Sam's a cunt, but they're becoming few and far between. Redknapp and Hughes will both be out of jobs by Christmas, which'll just leave Pulis and Taggart.

THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SCOTLAND GETTING PUMPED :')

Hard to really know how much an assistant contributes from the outside, but if he was as responsible for the defensive side of things at Mourinho's Chelsea and Dalglish's Liverpool as suspected, West Brom should be a very hard team to beat next season.

and an opportunity for many of you to mock me ...

Has anyone here ever had a PVC/vinyl banner made? I've been put in charge of getting one made, wondered if anyone had any hints or tips or had good/bad experiences with particular printers ...

but I had a banner made up for a band stage backdrop from here: http://www.bandbanners.co.uk/ - I imagine they probably do a lot of football ones too. Very good service and a great product (we went for the canvas banner, so I can't comment on the PVC ones).

http://tinyurl.com/d4gw49w

Mostly volunteered to take the lead as I want to be able to veto the more embarrassing designs ...

there was a "flag day" and my dad made a flag out of a bhs bag that was vaguely claret and amber (i think it was pink and yellow).
we didn't bring it in the end

for next season. Dunno how reliable the translation is, but it's starting to get picked up on by some UK pundits. Must mean someone is on the way in, only sense in moving him on would be if City need his squad slot ...

He's been a real big game player for us. Made a huge difference in some title-deciding fixtures.

Hard to doubt Mancini, though. He's called virtually everything right so far.

No doubt the desperate press and certain football supporters will try and make him out to be some sort of flop.

yesterday was too good.

bit weird how a part-time Chelsea fan's literally the first person in Britain on the ball with Man City news, etc.

a few people have suggested over recent weeks that we may go with a new system next year, maybe a 4-4-2 with orthodox wingers, or even a 3-5-2, idk. i can see how both Silva AND Nasri might not fit into that sytem every week, but i see no reason why Nasri still wouldn't be a key player.

So fucking angry right now

its the euros. can we go two weeks without endless paragraphs of your paranoia and slights?

we have, on occasion, needed to be more direct.

it'd depend on the fee, though. i suspect Spurs think he's worth about double his true value.

£20m or so - fine. £40m+ - NAH.

If he's only worth £20m, he's barely good enough for us, never mind the current champions.

"If he's only worth £20m, he's barely good enough for us"?!?

to limit the amount of smug prima donnas in your team, so one in one out seems logical.

in tribute to Dickson Etuhu. I could ask him where he got it from if you like

i can count one.

the nation wouldn't have celebrated our title win like it did had we not been amongst the, arguably *the* most likeable title-winning side of the modern era.

and how both seem to have the same kind of attitude. There are some likeable city players.

i don't think there's much ego about Bale, to be honest.

i think he gets a lot of stick because a) he plays for Spurs, and b) he looks like an ape.

strikes me as being a nice lad.

Dunno why, but it felt sort of like USA'94-ish yesterday.

of the Hungarian pianist trying to balance the ball on his back. Very Diana Ross.

If [Jordan] Henderson got in, any Englishman not currently in the squad has to feel aggrieved. Yes, I wish I was there but I'm not...

Holland 1-2 Denmark
Germany 3-0 Portugal

As people have pointed out yesterday was almost too good. I fear this tournament's peaked on its first day.

I can safely say that his inclusion in the England squad is absolutely baffling. I would, however, take him, Jay Spearing, Jonjo Shelvey and probably even Jon Flanagan over someone who takes to publicly criticising his fellow professionals whenever the footballing press has the temerity to talk about something that isn't him.

Andriy Shevchenko. always suspected he might be and everything i've read leading into this tournament confirms that. seems proper humble and genuine

i hope Ukraine beat us

especially if it's local

I'm going for 2-2.

Van Bommel has a peculiar knack for never actually getting sent off for his myriad offences. I think he's only received two red cards in his entire career.

I'm not a fan of all this public Auschwitz mourning. Sure, it doesn't do any harm, but why are there always official photographers there to catch the players looking sad? Why not just go privately? Do people really need to prove they're respecting history? Just go, if you want, you don't HAVE to, and pay your respects as you see fit. It's as if some are treating it as a team-bonding exercise.

Truly the sport of bedwetters.

Too edgy for football fans

I wish this game was on itv.

Its endlessly better than the BBC I reckon.

The commentary is very dull indeed.

Why does he sound so painfully earnest and reverent all the time? He's making the game seem less exciting than it already is

Trying to make an issue out of the ball, asking if the Van Persie contact was deliberate. Keown's keeping him grounded.

who is it? He keeps making terrible comments and innuendos. He just described step overs as 'leg overs'

That's exactly what the game needed.

Goal!

Hopefully be a bit more exciting now.

Kooooooooooooooooong Dehli <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

He just let Robben come onto him

highlight of the tournament, whatever happens

:')

he looked really good last season, you've def got a good signing there.

he's playing really well though

Afellay is 26??? He looks about 17

he's playing really well th

that's a bold claim

That's pretty exciting...

fuck off, you absolute cunt.

in reference to shots that weren't on target.

so we probably shouldn't take the piss.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_04/NistelrooyDM0111_468x949.jpg

and Huntelaar smirking.

pls.

and Phillipa Forrester is nowhere to be seen.

i think he's playing well, causing a lot of problems for the Dutch defence

There were other one-sided games before Barcelona v Chelsea. Someone please tell commentators and pundits that that wasn't the first one.

Punch Redknapp. Punch him hard.

The 'bet on the complete opposite of what you think is going to happen' tactic seems to be working.

If you were going to pick one person on the Danish team that looks Danish it would definitely be Kjaer

Like it's made of dodgy prosthetics.

really hope both teams play to their strengths in the next game

than to waffle on about Rio fucking Ferdinand some more

Holland's front 3 didn't seem to have any interest in passing to each other. Robben's cut-in-from-the-right-and-blast-it-over-the-bar routine was embarrassing.

Good old BBC talking bollocks again. At least they managed to get back to the REALLY important stuff: Asking Roy Hodgson about Rio fucking Ferdinand AGAIN.

:D

Instead I'm listening to Henrik Larsson's analysis of Denmark's defending

best result I've ever experienced. I really thought that was impossible. Never seen Denmark park the bus before but they did it well. Agger was unrealistically good and Kjær can still play!

now Olof Mellberg is boring me with a review of his international career thus far and his summary of Sweden's approach to this tournament

The era of 'that night in Istanbul' is over. Deal with it.

Assume you mean Rommedahl

HERE IS NOT HAPPY!

still talking about the Ferdinand non-selection issue as if the decision really was made for footballing reasons is becoming tiresome. Yes it's the official England & FA line, but we all know the real reason Terry & Ferdinand won't be playing together. Just because the official England camp's reason for not selecting him purely down to football doesn't mean the BBC & ITV should believe and act as though it is especially when the real reason is so apparent.

Alan shearer's head is so so shiny

but Arsene Wenger is commentating on Portugal Germany which almost makes up for it

he's had a total decline in form since leaving Palermo for Wolfsburg 2 seasons ago and although things have slightly improved recently at Roma he's been very shaky for Denmark in recent games. This was him back to his best.

also, I thought Nani was injured?

:'D

to say "[English club team name] fans will remember him" when encountered with a player who used to play in England? Fucking doing my head in. As if we're so stupid we'll only remember players if they played for our club.

Yeah, damn him for reacting to that studs-up, foot off the ground tackle that was never even intended to win the ball

*see replay where it is clear there is contact and it is a bad challenge*
...
*Pretend it didn't happen stick to guns so I can moan some more*

just said exactly the same thing

is this why Helder Postiga keeps getting games?

Only player they've said that about so far this game had never played in England

just stick al jazeera on. much much better commentary

He was insistant there was nothing wrong with him and he was just play acting, even as he was getting stretchered off :D

Stay classy, Lawrenson.

Something about a night game at this stage that makes it too finite.

LOL at the people saying they'll win it.

they're actually good this year though. They'll definitely get to the final, i'd bet you a fiver.

Gotze should be playing. I want him to play.

Alan Hansen just said the first half was "torture", which is something of an overstatement.

About Anderson and Wilfred Bouma

They are being unbearably miserable

for ruining Euro 2012, 45 minutes into the first dull game. Sorry for inventing defending, everyone.

A shit team will bore a good side to death again at some point and Chelsea will be forgotten about.

then what does Badstuber mean?

"Postiga. Spurs fans will know him. Many would probably prefer not to.... And Schweinsteiger, we all know him"

I am disappoint

that your wind up days were over?

like a cabin or shack - an outside loo if you like

that it meant he was rubbish at stubing.

Who did they say would remember him? I couldn't hear the commentary over my shouting.

what a complete knob

but I haven't been fixating on the commentary, so I'll defer to you.

First time they open up and the Germans score two minutes later.

I remember when i said i wasn't particularly enjoying football and would be taking less of an active role in supporting City from next season. Do you mean that, or are you lying again?

Only follow this football lark part-time, you see.

bunch of shit lads with shit haircuts. those slow motions of Cristiano rasping his lips make me wanna not have eyes.
still fancy Germany for the tournament

Ever since Figo and Rui Costa retired they've gradually turned into a team of horrible cunts playing horrible football. Tonight they seem to have reached their zenith.

has to be one of the worst teams ever

He was there from 2004-2007 according to wikipedia.

nice tap-in for Argentina's fourth.

say ANYTHING bad about Ollie

after Torres, Llorente, and Silva in a more advanced role (as they've tried a bit in the qualifiers/recent friendlies).

might be wrong.

i'm going with it

I've just added a few quid to my bet365 account for the tournament so could be tempted...

it's completely unfounded

got next week off and somewhere to stay, might go over for a game or two. doesnt look like itll be hard sourcing tickets

And it looks like the choices have been rattled down to Negredo or Torres.

Hertha Berlin (venue tba)
Celtic away
Ajax home
Munchengladbach at home

basically, I was unaware I had been left in charge of ideal pre-season games

Probably be in Norwich quite a bit over the summer ... Fuck it, I'll Google it.

Oh well.

can't wait to see us at Celtic Park, love that stadium and I can be gloriously smug to my pals (again)

Ireland 1 Croatia 0
Spain 1 Italy 0

I'm using my google login and haven't been able to get in this morning.

Ireland 1 - 0 Croatia
Spain 1 - 1 Italy

Ireland 2-2 Croatia
Spain 1-1 Italy

this is what pisses me off so royally about him, he has one of the best jobs in the world and he just whinges about it

Ireland 1 - 2 Croatia
Spain 0 - 1 Italy

ireland 2 croatia 1
spain 3 italy 1

Spain 1 Italy 0

Spain 2-0 Italy

Spain 1 Italy 0

and ended the season on a relative high, I think he'll be fine. Besides, he has silva just behind him

Not expecting too much excitement. Ireland and Spain will both attempt to bore their opponents to death, albeit through very different means.

Spain 1-0 Italy
Ireland 0-0 Croatia

I could live with the humiliation.

i can feel it

The odds I saw are 50-1 and, whilst that's probably about right, it's got to be worth a tenner. Italy have been a bit crap in recent tournaments and might be affected by the match-fixing stuff whilst Spain are missing a couple of key players.

Don't get me wrong - I'd be shocked if Spain didn't make it through but I still think the small odds are worthwhile.

http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4352267#r6804374

Spain are going to be incredibly hard to score against as always, and, for comparisons sake, I'd still probably fancy any of their strikers over any of ours. Given that Croatia and Ireland have to be in 1-2 order too, it seems at least 50/1 far fetched.

Cheers.

when did simple people start announcing defences starting with a left-back? I know it's a very minor gripe, but it's fucking odd. A mate of mine did it the other day, a guy on Sky just did it, a couple of people do it in the Fantasy Football League. Defences don't go from left to fucking right. Very, very odd behaviour.

and I imagine even that will be Fabregas. "Cheers".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/9322530/Police-called-to-wedding-of-ex-Newcastle-Utd-player-Danny-Guthrie-after-stately-home-brawl.html

'Behaved like peasants with money'.

Let the condescending of the Irish begin.

whoever plays in the most advanced role for Spain will be playing as a striker.

cheers.

I thought we were talking about football rather than semantics.

thought he'd go with llorente over fabregas.

martinez is a classy man.

You're thinking of part-time Chelsea fan, Daniel Kelly.

Ideal time to talk about Rio Ferdinand a bit more.