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Monday, 9th September, 9pm (somewhere in the world).
I imagine it is the date for a song release or maybe just details about a new album.
proper gimmicks, proper lads, proper haircuts
And want as many people to hear it as possible, and recently payed close attention to RAM's uber successful marketing campaign.
and Arcade Fire already had a crack at it with the Neon Bible hotline ting where you had to phone up to hear Intervention.
they did it for the same reason Daft Punk did it with RAM; they couldn't live up to the weight of expecation for their return without gimmicks like it to distract people.
wasn't really making a comment on the correlation between gimmicks and quality of records. gonna wait 4 days and listen to the song instead.
A bunch of great albums have had "interesting" launches.
Look at the Boards of Canada album, loads of (pretty clever) gimmicks; great music.
and The Next Day, marketing campaign or no.
Is marketing a gimmick now?
Because if it is:
I'm just saying.
are you really that uptight that you think that someone suggesting that companies use gimmicks to hide the poor quality of their product is trolling?
try harder and you might have more luck
Record labels use gimmicks to increase exposure/ sales sure, but it's a jump to say that's because the product is poor. The music industry isn't based upon good music = good sales, I thought you'd know that tbh.
no more or less gimmicky than doing a music video or whatever
but OBT's claim that it sounds like their best yet on the evidence of a 40 second trailer is rather more LOLworthy.
you don't see artists like yer man Bon Iver or The National doing this kind of stuff. Because they don't need it. The quality of the album gets the word of mouth gets the sales.
because Arcade Fire are really desperate for publicity after the poor-selling, poorly received last album.
Not really my point
'I don't like Arcade Fire, so this promo campaign is a gimmick'
Anyone care to guess what it will sound like? I'm guessing perhaps a bit more electronic given the trailer, the success of Sprawl 2 and the fact that James Murphy was producing. I have a strange feeling in my head that this might be their Kid A or something.
new song on Monday. Looking forward to it.
releasing a trailer for field of reeds... and from what I have read you loved that album.
I mean just look at the cover
A few on Twitter have been posting #9pm99, there's a worldwide map of record shops on the Reflecktors website (http://www.thereflektors.com/9pm99/) and Rise have just said that they've got a box of records from The Reflecktors too: http://www.twitter.com/risebristol/status/375935852041363456
makes me imagine the album will be Arcade Fire's own 'Remain In Light' sort of thing. Probably a stupid hypothesis.
Can't believe loads of record shops have had this overnight and it hasn't leaked.
don't think I could take another overblown album
but with their supposed new dance-y direction it may very well be their most fun release.
''Imagine Talking Heads’ ‘Once in a Lifetime’, but if David Bowie had written it while on vacation.''
matches up to Sprawl 2 i'll be happy. Such a song.
I'm digging this...
just like that, it's been taken down.
http://vibuguda.bandcamp.com/track/side-a-reflektor <-- was on there
oh no :(((
I kinda doubt it, as their only record I've properly connected with is The Suburbs, after quite liking the other three (I REALLY liked Funeral when it came out but it faded on me very quickly and I very rarely listen to it now). But The Suburbs just had something I can't put my finger on. Maybe it was the subject matter. Anyway, it was an incredible album.
yet it flew by.
but i love Franz Ferdinand so, GREAT!
if so i'm really really sorry
but I can guarantee I'll get a right hard on for this when it comes out. They are great, I mean come on... THEY ARE.
Nah you're alright - first link that Twitter threw up when I searched.
this is good
now i can openly mock her love of "musicals, British TV and French movies"
Or is Win just really fucking good at Bowie impressions?
But it makes me worry that they've gone back to trying to be 'epic', whereas The Suburbs was nicely reigned in. Also it's a little bit pastiche-y.
On the other hand, the context of the album is the important thing- when I first heard The Suburbs/Month of May single I thought it was crap yet ended up loving the album. And I actually really like the single this time, so it does bode well.
This is not a bad thing at all
James Murphy is really working wonders again.
but I love it.
But I like it too.
This is ace
Sounds like everything came together
I really hope this sound is what we can expect from the whole thing.
delighted they've gone further down that route. reminds me of Talking Heads. bodes well.
because of the marketing gimmicks or something. lol.
Every album has got steadily better though so not really sure why anyone's surprised.
Just putting it out there though.
Especially Neon Bible which actually probably is their best album which undermines my initial point.
Christ, better change my opinion then. Cheers for that, pal.
but you've said that people shouldn't be surprised as every album has got better, when the general consensus is that they haven't. therefore some people might be surprised. geddit?
I really like it.
(which can be found here):
It seems like the main focus is a distain towards the internet age. We are all reflectors as we stare at our screens. Seems like the question is whether we are really close with people we also keep in touch with (and fall in love with ?) online. Pretty cool they are focusing on such a current state of affairs.
Arcade Fire is always pretty on point with youthful modern day discontent
but i hope some share the basic sentiment
where the first single is great but the rest of the album really average.
The last record had a terrible lead single (MoM) and ended up being pretty good, so I cant really take this as anything but a good sign.
*plus the Daft Punk album is great, but that's not the point here.
Newish youtube vid:
I-tunes NZ clip:
Funeral > The Suburbs > Neon Bible
Lyrics, themes and music are all much better on the other 2. Definitely filler on all 3 to be honest though but I'd much rather listen to No Cars Go, My Body is a Cage, Intervention, Keep the Car Running, Antichrist, The Suburbs, The Sprawl, We Used to Wait, City With no Children and Modern Man than anything on Funeral.
I wonder if this marketing campaign might be glossing over the fact that the songs aren't very OMFG LOOK AT THIS WRONG BASTARD WITH HIS RIDICULOUS SUGGESTION THAT ARCADE FIRE MIGHT NOT HAVE MADE AN AMAZING RECORD!!!
another interactive jobbie
can't they just release a normal video on youtube like normal people
i'm not turning on my webcam to watch a fucking music video
kinda wish it used the webcam a bit more actually, that mirror bit is absolutely class
and by 'like it' I mean it results in me physically cringing at this sixth form level art on display.
Other than that, fairly solid song drags for the final minute or so and I don't think the interactive movie is nearly as solid as the one they released for 'The Subburbs'
but everyone knows who Arcade Fire are now so I have to think they're rubbish, right?
Guess the "Chrome recommended" really means "Chrome required".
but the reality, at least with me, is that I think it's decent to good on the first couple of listens... really don't like the video very much though... especially the long sequence where it's like 'Oh look a mirror'. The previous interactive video experiment was a lot more seamless and creative IMHO.
by a pop video that I have a shit old computer, but I do love when the song goes all 'Touched by the Hand of Cicciolina" at 6 minutes or so. Brilliant. Bully for England etc.
not enough PWEI references on DIS
A shame if so
Was fully prepared for a damp squib.
PMSL. £65 for a two track 12", one of the tracks being an instrumental version. Alternatively, you can still buy the £17 version from Banquet.
£8.98 for a double CD album seemed reasonable... then they chuck on nearly £5 for standard postage. Only went through with it because it also (allegedly) provides first access to tickets on upcoming tours. Probably still should have saved myself a few quid.
is the link for this to pre-order?
which means beyond any doubt that it will not be their best album as there have never been any double albums made ever that have been a band's best album, ever. With the exception that proves the rule being London Calling
from what's on that site too, marvellous!
Although you'd probably be wrong.
so long as it's a great album. And there are some great double albums.
so it'll probably be roughly the length of the suburbs
really like this song. i think it's my favourite Arcade Fire song i've heard. such a sucker for synth congas
3 x cd
All Things Must Pass
Double Nickles On The Dime
Soundtracks For The Blind
Trout Mask Replica
But apart from that what have double albums ever done for us, eh?
Initial bit of worry with the intro as "going more synthy" is a 50/50 prospect but they really pull it off.
though I guess I hope not everything on the album is a full on seven minute everything but the kitchen sink epic or it might become a bit knackering
I listened to Neon Bible for the first time in years yesterday, and it's aged so badly. So much relentless bombast- I really don't want them to go back to trying to achieve that level of so called 'epicness'.
... which I already thought was too long (although it is a good album).
A couple of 7+ minute tracks also sounds a bit ominous although I love Reflektor so, shock horror, I'll reserve judgement until I've given the album a couple of listens.
but yeah, there is a worry that a 14 song double album is just going to be A Bit Much... unless they've properly explored the disco/dance thing, in which case it might be aces
It sounds like they've taken 9 years to get from 2004 to 2004.
All that melodrama and bombast and doomsday preacher shit rocks my world.
whereas The Suburbs set it's sights pretty low (at least for a band as talented as Arcade Fire) and pretty much nailed it.
I'd rather listen to the former tbh.
And if you compare "hits" like Intervention or Keep the Car Running to Power Out or Rebellion, they really don't stand up well.
Either way, I'd say I think it is.
sounds pretty lame altogether.
Q only gave the album three stars
Of Orpheus/Eurydice, which I guess dooms it to being at best the second best album with references to Orpheus/Eurydice because it ain't going to be better than Hadestown.
The former album, you mentioned, in your post, was 'Neon Bible'.
excited for the album
unsure about the others, but time to grow and they're only live recordings; the recorded version of reflektor is ten times the version that was played on SNL.
but I find hard to believe that AF would be a 4/10 and the new Kings of Leon 9/10 (which I have not heard either).
One that I have heard on the other hand, Mark Lanegan's Imitations, got 8/10 even though it's the worst album of his career.
Features performances of new songs, and some impressive cameos.
i couldn't get over win's outrageous white person dancing. i mean, it's funny. in general, i love this
Am I right in thinking that Dan Lucas has heard the album precisely once, at a listening session?
never to be seen again
Im fairly sure thats what reviewers have been limited to, at the behest of the label.
at least he's explicitly mentioned it.
I dunno, I'm no Arcade Fire apologist, but everyone who listens to music should know that forming an opinion after 1 listen for critical analysis is basically a rookie mistake.
Asking reviews to be based on one listen (especially for a sprawling double album like this) would probably increase the chance of more bad reviews for the album.
and how most reviews of it will have been written - I was originally going to review but I didn't really want to listen to it that way and am off on holiday week after release, so I sent a rather gloomy email asking if anybody was up for playing along with the label, and Dan was. I did say I'd rather it was listened to multiple times, but I think it's a problem when the album is so long!
Anyway, as far as I'm aware it's not leaked yet, and I'm sure from the label's perspective a few bad reviews are acceptable collateral...
but to say the analysis and detail would be reliable after one listen, especially if an album is as sprawling as it is, would be unlikely.
If an album is over 30 minutes long and I've only listened to it once it's likely I've forgotten everything and if I was taking notes at the time of listening I wouldn't be paying full attention to the music. If I sat down and took notes after the first listen of a track the likelihood is I would have a muddled memory of a track unless it was super basic and whilst I recognize this wouldn't be the case for everyone it wouldn't surprise me if this was true for the majority.
Either way I don't think the is ever a defense to push out a review for an album after one listen. It makes the website seem amateur and desperate to grab some page views before the pre release review hype dies down.
if there is anything at all amateurish, it's possibly Dan opening himself up to all this by drawing attention to the fact he only had one listen, but the fact is that all advance reviews of the record - including many already published print ones - will be based on one listen under controlled conditions, or possibly a couple more.
This is exactly what Arcade Fire's record label felt was a reasonable way of presenting the album, and they felt one listen was a reasonable number of listens to do a review. Personally I disagree, which is why I decided not to do the review myself. But nonetheless, if anything we've entirely played along with Arcade Fire's wishes here.
And by the by, we've also put this review up at the label's chosen date - as the listen was a while ago, the review has been in the bag for a little while, but they requested nothing go up until today.
I wonder whether Pitchfork will unquestioningly give it BNM to officially make Arcade Fire to P4K what U2 are to Rolling Stone.
If the label only is allowing one listen, and states an embargo date, then surely a single listen review is all that the publiscations will be able to do, and as such might harm the record? So that's a problem that they've created, and DiS is just doing the only thing that they can.
At least he said "it's a one listen review, but I'm going to be honest, I don't expect my opinion to change" and I find that fine.
The Daft Punk album got slaughtered in listening party previews, but ended up being one of the most critically acclaimed albums of the year. Several publications gave it a terrible preview, and ended up giving it 4 or 5 stars after extended listening.
That said, most people agree with the initial judgements, so maybe all reviews should be one listen, idk.
I seem to remember the Daft Punk listening parties happened really far ahead, like two months before it came out, and then there was in fact decent access to the album a week or so in advance (probably a stream).
Who are just smug at being right and towing the party line respectively. Like other critics of the review, maybe it will end up being accurate...but is it so hard just waiting for the release. Yeah so the label hardly helped, but you're in dreamworld if you think readers give a damn. Just find the best way to assess the music, it's what reviews are there for.
but none of this addresses my main gripe which is the integrity of the review suffers as a result of doing this at all, it may not go against the bands wishes, but a review is meant to inform people of what they're planning to buy and I don't consider someone who has listened to an album once 'Informed'... they may well me more informed than you or I because they've heard the thing but I don't think I've ever been able to give an honest or accurate opinion on an album after one listen, and this is me listening in completely uncontrolled situations.
It's basically a case of trashing the integrity of the review just so you can have a feature, just because these are the terms set by the label doesn't mean you have to abide by them. But I understand WHY this happens, this site needs to survive by getting hits, but my point still stand that the integrity of the review suffers as a result.
but insulting people who put up with it for a living - and obviously share your annoyance - seems childish and naive. It’s not hard to see why a music website wouldn’t be shit-the-bed crazy about running a major review ten days after other blogs.
Or maybe magical pixies wrote the eventual reviews instead
your only problem is that Dan said how many listens he had. It's an honest reflection of one (and in fact A BIT) listens.
Honestly, I'm sure I like Arcade Fire at least as much as you, probably more, and I'm very happy to take all these early reviews - negative as well as positive - with a pinch of salt. But it's an honest response to the record, and if the conditions were imposed by the record company to some extent then, you know, there is no music reviewing manual that says how many times listen your review is supposed to be based upon. If anything being honest gives the review more integrity, surely?
As I said, we were perfectly prepared to not to do the review on the terms set by the label, but we're a volunteer-based organisation, and one of our volunteers, Dan - who almost certainly is a bigger Arcade Fire fan that you are! - happened to be keen enough to hear the album that he hoped on a train down to London to attend the listening.
Im sticking up for dan on the above because i know him and think the criticism/insults being thrown his way are unfair.
the internet was crawling with the shittest quality leak possible of the album and everyone drew conclusions from that, then they had a big argument about quality and making opinions about it, which bored everyone to tears and showed numerous people up for being sad whiny little cocked off flaps.
look, we almost didn't bother doing an advance review of the record for the reasons you've stated, but in the end we had a writer who was prepared to do it on the label's terms, who was excited about hearing the record.
Conceivably he made a mistake in stating how many times he was allowed to listen to the record. But on the other hand doing so makes it a perfectly honest review - probably more honest than the other reviews of this record - and so you know exactly what was listened to and how many times (I believe he actually did re-listen to a few of the songs, which isn't mentioned here).
thought I suppose he probably did hope on the train
they're gimmicky. they're sub-par. fashion over function (particularly the snl thing, actually any time I've seen them on tv). like so many other acts that people have been conned into getting behind, thy're empty calories. So I dodn't go to the links provided at the top, I'm just sick of their stupid points of reference & asshole tactics to amaze. I'll stick with sessions from Cosimo Matassa's studio.
And the best way to review this record was a single one=take review.
I think the review is an interesting read and worth posting up but I would remove the score.
On my own first listen, I'm agreeing with a lot of the points raised in the DiS review. A few really nice moments, but very few satisfactory songs, and plenty of interesting ideas handled very badly. Weirdly insular and, well, arrogant - bit like The Wall almost in its bewilderingly paranoid tone.
and you wouldn't notice. Learn to fucking edit.
but i am so so so tired of win's voice.
Might be a grower - it felt like they were aiming for a double album of 'White Album'-esque experimental weirdness and it came across as a little contrived, but I reckon after several plays it will reveal its charms
this fucking band, released one good album and they'll be held on a peadstool, the rest is solid A shit
no proper haircuts
no proper anything
the fuck, man
The White album had 30 songs and ran for 90 mins, this has 13 tracks across 80 mins.
but yes, if this album's determined as a stinker, they'll be able to push out two more shit albums before people give up on them.
i'm really, REALLY enjoying it though!
but I couldn't handle the second disc.
Insofar as I'm half an hour into my first listen to it and I haven't wanted to stop listening yet
why are you all arguing about a review? who gives a flying fuck about a review?
really enjoyed it. Meant to sort of leave it on but watched the whole thing. Not sure whether it'd feel a bit much listening as an album, but approaching it as a big body of work (like a film) it was very very good (tempted to say phenomenal, but I think it needs a few more listens to decide whether it was just a one-off thing or not).
but there's no reason to suggest they're on a peadstool.
it's still a bit shit
's really fucking good.
Empress Ballroom. No doubt others to follow
Still wish it was edited somewhat, songs drag on
don't think they fully understand how stupid that'll sound to UK fans
described their new album with their song titles (track#9 awful sound), (track#10 it's never over) but (track#6 you already know) that. *ps i like here comes the night time
but this let's bring in Sitek/the lad from LCD/other generic dancey-sounding producer stuff - not for me, sorry. Don't know if Arcade Fire are running out of ideas or what, their Abba tribute record last time round was pretty darn nice, just not sure i need to hear their It's Blitz.
That's a very low score, and most of the songs on Disc 1, on the their own, would make it at least a 6/10.
I like the fact that it's a 'meaty listen'. I've not had that with AF, before. I usually just love the whole album, as soon as I hear it, but this feels like something to live with and explore, for a bit.
i really wish they hadn't bothered with it, because i really like the album other than that
"the reflektors" on colbert? please. those forced poses - the brother crouching and posing by his keyboard? the guitarist laying on the ground while he plays? the stupid wife in the box? It's all so stupid.
Even if at least one of the tracks sounds like someone taking the piss with a Bontempi. Definitely needs an edit.
its not 'bad'. its just...dull. there are probably enough decent ideas for a six or seven track mini-album.
It isn't bad, but it is cringe inducing pretty much the whole way through.
Bye Arcade Fire! We'll always have Funeral.
just went to listen to it... stream has been taken down
songs i've heard from it seem far and away their best stuff though. far more playful and fun than they've been for.
And what's wrong with it?
...so you let a fan of Arcade Fire (hence highly biased) and also the one that gave a 0/10 to an album http://drownedinsound.com/releases/17684/reviews/4146495 (that Beady Eye album) to review Reflektor?
So that first point is kind of invalid.
shows he is of sound hearing.
"He gave it 4/10 though".
It shows that he had a knee-jerk reaction. He gave a 4/10 for an album that could be rated let's say 6/10 or 7/10 or 8/10 if he would be more objective.
Same for that Beady Eye album: that album is not a 0/10 just because he hates that band. It's a moronic attitude from a reviewer, that is expected to be as objective as possible. Too much drama for a damn review...
this one would definitely be classed as an 'outlier'.
But I don't think even devotees could deny that they do have favourites. Makes th. DiS review seem quite sensible.
makes little to no sense to me. Were that the case all reviews would read like GCSE History essays just running through possible interpretations of the music + listing possible pros and cons. Not a thing.
this album gets at either end of the spectrum
If they are giving it anything outside of a 5-6 then probably, yes
it's probably the best written "knee jerk reaction" review I've seen.
Plenty of 8s here:
But it was a lucky guess, given how it was written.
Tickets on sale this Friday
Gig dates 11th and 12th Nov
Because the reviewer reviews a product (that album). Like an advice for listeners: buy/don't buy this album.
Otherwise, what's the point of reviews? Literature for the sake of it?
Or is it the usual bun fight on the Roundhouse website? Can't wait to be position 9486 in the queue.
they've been riding arcade fire's dick so hard for the past month, i mean really working that shit slow and wet.
ARE ARCADE FIRE PLAYING AN UNSCHEDULED GIG ON FRIDAY SOMEWHERE YOU STATISTICALLY PROBABLY DON'T LIVE???
literally nobody cares.
justifies the score with the writing
can't ask for more
this album's great and I'm still a couple tracks to go
tickets. I presume their website would meltdown for several hours if they did. It'll be a Ticketmaster\Seetickets thing I'm guessing.
If they're saying buy/don't buy then that isn't objective, is it? They're saying 'I think it's good enough to recommend' or 'I think it's bad, don't get it'.
this whole Reflektors concept
I hadn't seen a lot of those
if they'll only play the album.
1. Because it'll be a set heavily derived from the new record, and
2. They're playing small venues for them so they want to put off the more casual Arcade Fire fan (the type who likes the singles that Zane Lowe plays on Radio 1).
I mean - what's the point in anyone other than the person that wrote it's Mum reading it? It's no use whatoever.
If you're not dedicated enough to delve into the arcade fire's back catalogue of accessible indie rock then you don't DESERVE to come to the gig. These shows are for the purists who really appreciate the band on a deep enough level to pay £40 + booking fee to hear one rousing chorus of gang vocals after the next, whose banal lyrics give the songs a veneer of significance due to constant enigmatic references to "the kids", and that's when they're not just singing "woah woah woah". I understand that a lot of people will be put off by the bands use of 4/4 time signatures, standard 1/4/5 chord progressions and watering down of more avant-garde groups that came before them such as talking heads, but thats good, it keeps the idiots out, know what I mean?
For the record I think you're wrong. I buy a lot of the albums reviewed on Dis and I tend to only buy the ones with high reviews.
The ones with low reviews do tend to be shite. Not sure what happened with this one..
line up with what the reviewer's seem to be (re: other records mentioned etc.) and make a judgement call as to whether the record sounds like something they'd be into. Saying reviews should be objective implies that there's some objective standard of value that could be used to weigh albums against one another. A reviewer should be able to make a decent case for why they think a record is good or bad (not just 'it's shit' or ad hominem stuff about the artist being a dick or whatever) but those arguments are never going to amount to more than that person's particular reasons for (dis)liking a record. Unless, I guess, one thinks that there is some kind of objectively good music which fair enough then, but I don't buy that.
I hear what you’re saying but I’d still say that in the main, Dis reviews do tend to be objective. Either that or I have the exact same opinion – score wise – as every reviewer on this site, because I tend to find the low scoring albums poor, and the high scoring albums good.
There’s the odd review that I disagree with. Not saying that Reflektor is one of them because I’ve not heard it yet.
it'd be like going to see Jake Bugg and not getting any of the hits!
The write up is not what got most people alarmed, it was the ridiculous 4/10 rating, which even if you thought this was the weakest album that AF, have yet produced, would be hard to justify.
At its worst, this album is a bit too long, but it has within it, elements of fantastic music. 4/10 albums don't have that. I have a few 4/10 albums - everyone needs to listen to them, occasionally, just to remind yourself what crap music really is.
I think those of us, who spend a lot of time avoiding the really rubbish stuff, have lost sight of what crud really sounds like. Their 'margin for error', where music tips over into 'shitness', gets really narrower and narrower.
if this is the case and they're charging £40 a head than I think it's safe to assume the band I once loved has evaporated up their own collective arses.
and they don't feel obliged to play for 2+ hours and play almost everything they've released to appease everyone?
it's not a well put together set
I do like the new album, but I'd feel pretty cheated if they played a setlist as short as the one above, for £40
I'll probably go anyway
4 is technically below average. As for elements of fantastic music...I think there's good reason to downgrade a capable band for releasing music way below their capabilities because they've been blinded by "concept".
Reflektor, We Exist, Normal Person, Afterlife, Awful Sound, Here Comes the Nighttime and It's Never Over are great and only Supersymmetry stood our as being too long which was only down to the pointless 6 minutes of soundscape at the end - take that away and the album stands at 70 minutes which is just 6 minutes more than the Suburbs; an album which, for me, had far more throwaway songs on the first few listens.
Also, take into account that the shows up until now were all before release so it's not surprising they were heavy on new material, especially seeing as how the album was so closely guarded and didn't even start streaming until last Friday. Now it's been released and the upcoming gigs have more of a tour vibe about them, I'd expect them to throw in the likes of Wake Up, The Suburbs and at least one more of the Neighbourhoods.
I actually like arcade fire quite a lot for what they are. Used to like them a lot more mind, partly because my prioities in music have changed since I was 15 and because their output has gone downhill since Funeral. I have a bongo drum they signed when I met them in an airport departure area.
Nothing I wrote up there is actually a criticism I have of them (apart from the lyrics - they're rubbish). They're a good, accessible indie rock band who undeniably do a easier version of what bands like talking heads do. I was more responding to the guy who was sneering at "casual fans" who've heard them on zane lowe, as if they ever made challenging muso-music and their fanbase has been diluted by idiots, which is rubbish.
So ... does any kind soul have a code who doesn't need it? And if so, could I have it please?
Tickets are through Ticketmaster:
With two albums worth of songs.
Could people who preordered be sent a link to purchase from their official site and the Ticketmaster presale be separate?
Ticketmaster usually only require a code to let you use the presale.
If anyone knows it, or hacks it please share it.
My stab in the dark is that it will be Supersymmetry
plus the ticket prices are lots more - surely they'll just, you know, play longer sets
Plus... that was at the o2. Doesn't really seem an unreasonable price to see one of the biggest bands in the world at a relatively intimate venue.
Particularly the second disc's stuff
By amending the tracklisting to
Here Comes the Night Time II
It's never Over
it is now a manageable 48 minutes long and doesn't drag on so much
Supersymmetry (5 minute version)
Here Comes the Night Time
Joan of Arc
GET IT. BECAUSE IT'S SYMMETRY BECAUSE THEY BOOKEND THE ALBUM. YEAH.
really like most of this one. utterly baffled by some of the negativity, i think they're getting better with every album. *shrugs*.
Won't be giving it a second I'm afraid. Zzzzzzzzz
and got the presale code but can't go? I'd happily take it. This is for the Roundhouse by the way
The good stuff is really good though so overall I like it...
and you can only use it once over the course of the next 12 months so I don't think there'll be many people wanting to part with it.
Emailed to people who ordered the album through their website by Oct 24th. Can be used for any of their gigs touring this album, including any next year at bigger venues
That's pretty cool. Cheers for the info
I've done something similar, just for a playlist, mind you. I just wanted to satisfy my curiosity.
So this is what I did, if anyone gives a monkey's shit (which they won't).
I used a bit of music editing software to cut the last minute or so off It's Never Over (Oh Orpheus) - and there's a good point in the song, where you can do that, actually.
I also trimmed a bit off the end off 'Afterlife' (one of my favourite tracks on the album, but again, I felt it just goes on a bit, at the end).
Finally I got rid of a large chunk of the 'stuff' at the end of 'Supersymmetry'. Not all of it - the last bit is actually quite nice.
I also removed 'Porno' (I know, it's a good song!), but I think removing a long track, at the end of a long album, is a good price to pay.
The album is still 62 minutes long, but that's ok. I didn't want it to be too short. I just wanted it FEEL lighter.
But then I like Shaking the Habitual and Random Access Memories too so what do I know?
It's really good you dickheads.
quite like this... not gonna listen to it again cos it's bad for my personal brand, though
it's quite possible i won't enjoy listening to it that much again but I loved every second it from start to finish each time. didn't ever notice a song overstaying it's welcome
just got tickets to see them in London and Glasgow as part of the pre-sale as well, yessss.
Did you pre-order the album twice?
from a reviewer that's heard the album at least twice?
The 4/10 just makes the site look silly.
are great. It is keeping me listening all the way through which not every double album has succeeded in doing (hello Shaking the Habitual).
There - I said it.
There's too much of them doing meandering 'rock n roll' on disc one for me.
which was why they were very stupid to make people review it on a single sitting. They can only blame themselves for some of the rush-to-judgment reviews.
due to 'some' sites keeping them low for me...
Not feeling that songs are outstaying their welcome at all. Seems a good change in direction and the songwriting is still up there for sure. As with every band that changes direction there is usually that initial empty feeling once you realise the band you loved have gone and aren't coming back. With this, I'm not getting that feeling, it feels like a different band. A good different band.
Reflecktor is actually one of my least favourite tracks which is good because I wasn't too keen on it as a first single. It's fine as an album track for me.
2 x standing roundhouse tickets booked.
Love not having to use the roundhouse website
I will buy one or two if there's some going please.
3.45GBP for a paperless ticket
Is it me? Am I shit? I set myself up ready to go before they go on sale and try like mad until they've sold out. Fucking shit and unfair.
It won't happen I know, but if anyone finds themselves with or can get me two tickets for either date, I would be most grateful. I suspect they'// announce a third or even fourth Roundhouse show, but I doubt I'll be able to get any of those either. Thank you. Bot cunts.
to ignore the fact that getting a ticket for a show at the Roundhouse for a band who sold out the O2 (I think) and drew a massive crowd to Hyde Park will always be hard.
I know it's a real long shot but if anyone is selling any I'd be eternally grateful. Wonder what their plans are between the London and Blackpool gigs are? Potential for extra dates surely
through their own resale site (Get Me In) for three times the original price.
It's much, much, better than the reviews had led me to believe
Supersymmetry is actual wonderful, one of the best things they've ever recorded (apart from the pointless bit at the end, which would have been ok if it had been 30 seconds long)
Great band name
I'll choose my words carefully because I don't want to offend anyone's lawyers, but dear TM, that sort of behaviour doesn't look good at all. Does GMI also take a percentage of the resale price? I've never used it (or any of the others) so don't know...
but I like what I've heard
Can someone who goes tonight let me know two things:
1. Do people actually bother with the fancy dress malarkey?
2. What time to the band come on/is there a support?
Have fun if you are going!
We have one friend who didn't manage to get a ticket. Does anyone have a spare, illness, death in the family, unreliability, not bothered.
I can collect from anywhere in London, or meet you at the gig, or I'm working in Covent Garden all day if that helps. If so, firstname.lastname@example.org or call/text 07887744970. I will love you forever. Thank you.
They released a final wave of tickets for yesterday's show at around 4.30/5 — which is how I managed to score some. I would expect a similar trick today.
Their fan Twitter account is called Arcade Fire Tube, which is who announced the tickets yesterday.
Those who are going really should dress up, or you might look like a tool.
1. If you can, do dress up. A bow tie, a spangly cape, whatever. A lot of people made the effort, and it helped relax the Monday crowd. It was a great atmosphere, a total party.
2. Just DJ support, due on stage at 8:30 (though it was more like 8:45) and played for 90 mins.
It was bloody great. Didn't need a longer set or anything approaching 'greatest hits', as the Reflektor heavy set makes total sense as a live show. If they'd wandered back down the path to their more earnest straight up stuff it would have noticably jarred (as it did with Crown of Love in the encore). Power Out was given a little spruce with their new sound, and Sprawl II and Haiti fit in pretty well as is. It was great, anyone going tonight is in for a treat.
according to the Twitter account above. Apparently Joey Barton was there last night...
Maybe not as immediate as the suburbs but some great tracks on there that i cannot wait to hear live at the barrowlands on sat night! :)
One of two tracks do overstay their welcome but really fucking enjoying it!
Reflektor, Normal Person, Here Comes The Night Time and It's Never Over in particular. Last two nights have been so much fun!
What a fucking record that is!
I finally got around to listening to this today, and a few dull and/or misguided bits on the first disc aside, it's really decent.
I listened to most of the first disc earlier, and the rest on my way home this evening, and I had a real experience with it. unusual night, felt as if I'd gone back in time. not sure how big a part the music had in that, but it was really something hearing it in that piqued state.
the second disc is easily the best.
Songs Ive ever heard. So nuts to you, sir