Worst Mid-Noughties Declining Indie Band Follow-up Single
I think it has to be Ruby by The Kaiser Chiefs, but Do You Want To by Franz Ferdinand surely runs it pretty close.
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good one
Do You Want To pisses all over the competition
probably single-handedly resulted in me losing faith in print music journalism.
How does it make you lose faith in print music journalism?!
because everyone praised it like it was some work of subversive genius.
please, it was fine
look at kaiser cheifs, killers & kol - ha, the KKK of krap
Prob something by Bloc Party
Nah they were always a great singles band.
Even with Intimacy, Mercury was a banger.
the one after knaive by the kooks
If Bloc Party had put out a chronological singles collection before releasing Four
It would have been great. Not that Four is bad, but it takes an odd diversion given the direction their sound was going in pre-hiatus.
I remember something ballady about playgrounds?
I Still Remember
'Our love could have soared over playgrounds and rooftops'. That one did sound a bit like a ITV daytime show theme tune.
yeah always skip that one on the album
had that shit video on the train
aww no :-(
thats the best one
(My New Year's Resolution this year was to stop listening to Bloc Party. Don't make me fail hyg!)
Steve McQueen by the Automatic.
So weak you don't even remember it.
I WAS A TEEEENAAGEE STEVE MCQUEEEEEEN
I've just proved you wrong, but I think you're still the real winner here
i thought Do You Want To was pretty good!
Me too
Good fun
You don't think it was too much of a self-conscious attempt to have a 'hit'?
yeah, admittedly the riff is a bit forced
It was a blatantly self-conscious attempt at Take Me Out Part II and not as good as Take Me Out
but still a much better single than most mid-noughties indie bands managed in their entire careers...
It's weird how Franz Ferdinand seemed to lose relevance quickly
A great friend of mine who liked Kiss, Iron Maiden and Living Colour, and would normally baulk at anything with an "indie" image, was in love with them around the time of Take Me Out because they seemed to have a lot more humour and spunk than the average trendy band. Thought they could become a British institution like Pulp, but they pretty much gave it away in interviews they didn't have the balls.
I'd love to see them do a cookery show, mind.
either way
it was the first single from the follow-up to a really successful debut album. hardly an indie band in decline.
^ Needlessly defensive thissed this
Yeah, surely Ulysses was much worse...
um...
I like Ulysses. More so that Do You Want To
Ulysses is brilliant
Is this for comeback singles though, rather than follow-up singles?
Agree wholeheartedly with the OP choices, and would add 'Smokers Outside the Hospital Doors' I guess. Wasn't exactly bad, but pretty tired-sounding. Meh.
I liked Smokers Outside the Hospital Doors
I used it as my A2 music tech coursework to record and produce a cover of it. It was pretty much the only half decent track on the album though.
It stole the bassline from Sheriff Fatman
So I can thank the Editors for getting me into Carter USM roughly a decade after anyone knew who they were.
The Bravery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spKOib_D5YY
Yep that sucks anus
the follow up to that was incredible though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=booKP974B0k
Mistress Mabel - The Fratellis
Had to Google the title, it's that forgettable.
Was Do You Want To the one with the slightly decent 30-second intro?
That then faded into the utter shite of the rest of the song? If so, I agree.
No, that was Take Me Out
Oh, Take Me Out was alright then.
Do You Want To was garbage.
wrongest opinion I've seen all year
kudos
Does this still count even if I was talking about the wrong song?
I hope so.
Cheers.
whatever the lead single off the second Klaxons album was
ditto the lead single from the Rakes second album
I actually heard Strasbourg by the Rakes on 6Music yesterday, good song.
We Danced Together was the Rakes song
Echoes was the Klaxons song. Both were alright, I thought
Rakes second album was their best fool, one of the best from that time period/genre too
i reckon you're the only person around who thinks that
but your enthusiasm is endearing. if the Rakes are reading this, they probably have tears in their eyes.
3rd album come back single you say?
Human by the killers
Yeah, that was crap.
Bloodless MOR. I loved the first, and second Killers albums - there was a certain barmy endeavour to them. But like everyone else on this thread, they became slaves to their influences.
We got this far without mentioning Razorlight?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZNq43OnuSg
Nah, if we're doing Razorlight
Wire To Wire is the absolute choice. Second album is one of the biggest selling of the decade, so they release a shitty piano ballad with no real hook as the lead single to the third.
Wait, wait
What about that America one?
I always thought skip to the end by the futureheads was massively forgettable
I like it, but probs the worst song on that album
I really liked that single
I was feeling really sensitive to death and that at the time, and I took it to be essentially a relatively pared back pop song about death-shadowed love.
never bothered with the album because the next single was boring.
Forgettable song, forgettable band
no
you're totally anmd objectively wrong.
"Skip To The End" is brilliant. possibly my favourite Futureheads song.
this is an emergency by the pigeon detectives
is laughably dreadful, not to say they werent from the off
'tired of england' by dirty pretty things was kinda sad, especially cos i liked the first album a lot and still do. and yeah, 'i still remember' was the song that killed bloc party for me.
Agree with Dirty Pretty Things
Really liked their debut. Shame.
except the bloc party bit
Everything LCD Soundsystem did after Loosing My Edge
Clue was in the title of that one...
you've misunderstood the thread subject
and somehow also provided the worst opinion in it anyway
I think you took the bait there.
I call that bullshit
I can tell you at least 10 amazing LCD Soundsystem songs better than "Losing My Edge".
These songs are magnificent
Tribulations
Daft Punk Is Playing at My House
Beat Connection
All My Friends
Someone Great
Get Innocuous!
Sound of Silver
Home
All I Want
You Wanted a Hit
Dance Yrself Clean
partial agree
but half that list is bollocks
Bollock for you, perhaps. Anyone with decent good taste will agree with the whole list.
how has this gone unremarked
oh man
*that meaning 'Everything LCD Soundsystem did after Loosing My Edge'
You might be able to but I can't
its the peak for me by a long shot, love that tune. I enjoy some other stuff by them: Beat Connection and Yeah all from the same time as Losing My Edge really. All My Friends and Someone Great are the last of it for the good stuff. But yeah none are as amazing as Losing My Edge. So downhill from there for me.
I'd say that Losing My Edge is a bit overrated
It's very good song; amazing lyrically, but musically it's a bit monotonous.
Jimi, I love you man, but this is just... so wrong.
What about songs off their last album like All I Want?
+ Drunk Girls
Drunk Girls is the worst song on the album by about 10 lengths
Sticks out like a sore thumb like *oh, we better whack a single on there*
I can't be wrong
just opinion innit.
Didn't like anything off the last album, first album was poor too would have been dire if it wasn't for the bonus disc with Losing My Edge, Beat Conection and Yeah on it. Sound of Silver was prob the most listenable album all the way thru but even then I don't need more than the two tracks I mentioned really. Use to like LCD more but everytime I revist them I feel less and less for them.
dude you just can't slag off LCD Soundsystem on here
you can't, you just fucking cant, pack it in mate, go home
I mean it's irrelevant that they make utterly mundane music, you just can't badmouth them, they're what keeps this place alive, man
:')
@Loui_Tacceh: follow your own advice...
...pack it in mate, go home. bye! ;)
the last album was a bloody disaster
Can't Stand Me Now
Though that's possibly just "worst noughties single" tbf
Ridiculous
Won't hear a bad word on the Libs, fuck that.
well, hear this...
they were always shit.
he can't hear you
So Why So Sad by the Manics
Total failure as an experiment & a complete head-scratcher for both casual and devoted fans alike at a time when the band were both massive and disappearing out of sight of their mid-90's fanbase. The pointless 'release two singles on the same day' gimmick meant the pretty decent Found That Soul got totally overshadowed as a result too.
Although it's not actually a follow-up single, soz!
the ONLY good thing I remember from them
"you stole the sun" - that band was an over hyped disappointment. no wonder that guy disappeared.
I'm assuming that you're not British?
Seriously - what? Are we talking about the same band here?
Also I never understood the love for You Stole the Sun either
I thought it was great
There's something about a summery, Beach Boys esque songs with dark, ambigous lyrics which just makes you think "YEAH!" Was gutted when It Wasn't Me blocked it from UK number 1.
Know your Enemy was the first Manics album I ever bought. I wasn't expecting much, but I was delighted a band could follow up something tasteful, clean and mainstream with an album that was.. well.. a glorious mess, and let's be honest, Miss Europa Disco Dancer and Freedom of Speech.. are pretty damn funny
It has to be something by the Fratellis
Everything they've ever done except Chelsea Dagger?
Because it all stinks of shit.
Chelsea Dagger is their shittiest track man!!
12:51
unfortunately true
what a letdown.
No way, was ace
It was horrible.
Sounded like the Barney the Dinosaur theme.
I thought 1251 was crap at too
But then that album was superb. I always skip that song but Under Control WOOOOOOOOOOOO best Strokes song
This re: Under Control
12:51 is The Strokes best song by about a grajgjarhn miles
Do You Want To
Cant think of this song without having this song and video in my head
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxZ-n4Is684
Most of these bands were absolute shite to begin with.
The mid noughties was as tedious and derivative a time for 'indie music' as the Britpop fall-out. People either did third hand Clash or third hand Television or third hand Gang of Four. I was listening to electro all that time.
Having said that, personal taste and all. I must admit that I lap up anything psychedelic or shoegazey, no matter how derivative. I guess I just associate it with the NME of the time, which was so bad I'm surprised it was able to continue (it did improve).
lol
Love it when someone like this comes along and just casually drops music-related truth bombs left right and centre.
Especially when it's followed by "I was listening to electro all that time."
I feel like I've been told.
^
I can't believe you weren't listening to electro all that time.
I for some reason read his entire post as if it was said by this guy
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100817195437/simpsons/images/f/fe/It'sRoy.jpg
it's not as good as when brightonb uses the phrase "computer music"
beeep blooop di dooodi bloopy
*I was listening to electro all that time*
is one of the best sentences I've ever read on here :'D
I'm old enough to think that most of the mid-noughties electro was third hand too.
Do I win a prize?
listen pal
dance music is the future and has been since 1989
looks good...sounds good...feels good too
Incredible track.
I bet if you were to play that at a club, you'd still get people going nuts for it.
...uh-huh that's right.
Arcade Fire - Keep the Car Running
Get out.
It certainly isn't the worst song on Neon Bible by some distance
But I remember thinking when I first heard it "this is quite nice but I hope there's a bit more on the album"
And then of course there wasn't, bar the odd song.
Fair enough.
I really don't understand all the hate (it's not really hate though, more like general apathy) towards Neon Bible. I haven't heard it in ages, but I'm pretty sure I much prefer it to Funeral.
Now you can get out.
dreadful album
and wasn't that lead single from pre-Funeral anyway?
No Cars Go was from the Arcade Fire EP
could've been a lead single, just wasn't the first one. Its a good song. And I actually think the Neon Bible one is better, though I'm in a minority.
Britpop > mid nineties electro
any album that has Windowsill on it
is fine by me.
Haha, I remember first hearing Keep he Car Running
and thinking it was someone ripping off Arcade Fire but not doing a very good job of it.
yeah definitely
a really awful song. but it wasn't the comeback single- Intervention was.
Yeah you're right
Neither are great
most people I know think 'Neon Bible' is rubbish
it's not, they're all wrong.
Intervention is far worse, like a big overblown parody.
WORKING FOR THE CHURCH WHILE YOUR FAMILY DIES.
I think it's intended to be somewhat parodic...
Ah alright then, I can be pretty abysmal at picking up on things like that.
Looking at the thread title again, I'm not sure they fit the, 'declining,' description either.
I love Intervention
So Springsteen
So what is the actual DiS verdict on mid-noughties Indie-Rock
At the time I think I was vaguely dismissive, preferring finding the not-Nirvana grunge-etc. bands like Screaming Trees, Smashing Pumpkins, L7...
Now I personally feel like there were some very pop single type songs that I can non-ironically enjoy, but a vast swathe of soundalike boring rubbish.
There is no verdict
We're all waiting for Royter to tell us what to think. While listing to electro.
I told you all at the beginning of the thread!
I used to be obsessed with Arctic Monkeys,
and the Libertines and Franz Ferdinand and whatever else was on the NME best of the year compilation, until I got angsty and moved on to Muse. I do still like a good chunk of it though, just not The Wombats.
http://s7.postimage.org/igya049nv/dog.jpg
Amazing
:D
Just replace the top with "Papa Roach"
and the bottom with "I was listening to Modern Life is Rubbish and Some Might Say all that time"
and you have the teenage me in 2001 in a nutshell.
mansun :'(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg9AhRvx9J8
how could you do this
Dear god.
I had to turn it off after the first minute. How could they follow up Six with that?!
They didn't
They followed up Six with this - which is great....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEWFigyE8R0
you're right
that was pretty good, great b-sides as always too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJlREtq2dhQ
an 8-minute Mansun song I haven't heard yet
WTD
My Little Kix b-side of choice is (thus far) the wonderful I've Seen The Top Of The Mountain, which would have crushed the rest of the album* if it'd been included
*I have a weakness for Forgive Me and Goodbye but the rest...
PEOPLE WHO
make their Youtube way longer than the song, the resultant dead air at the end being no better than that before the dismally non-hidden track at the end of a lot of albums during the 1990s
you're right, loueh
and when you're right, you're right
The Wombats' first single off their second album
Where they were all wearing SUNGLASSES in the video to show you how SERIOUS about MUSIC they were
yes
but wombats were always massively terrible
Not disputing that
Still, I'll take unpretentious shit over pretentious shit anyday
I remember staying up to watch the video debut of Kasabian's return single
on their second album. That song was 'Empire' and I've never liked Kasabian since. Still, no one can deny the quality of those singles on the debut though right?
Yeah, it's a good, fist-pumping album
But nothing duller than bands pretending to be the Mondays 15 years after they were the zeitgeist
DJ playlist
I used to DJ at quite a well known former London venue during this period and it's funny to see most my playlist listed above, some was dross compared to some of the debut singles these bands put out!
Although The Rakes and Klaxons 2nd albums were corkers
You're thinking of The Rakes' first album
And The Klaxons' first album
That was excellent
I lost interest in them when they played on Jools Holland singing something that sounded like Bernard Manning covering Cruel Summer.
I feel slightly nauseous looking at this thread as it reminds me of what a sad indie dweeb I was in 2006.
I swear down that listening to the Automatic*, the Fratellis and Kaiser Chiefs caused me single-handedly to screw up my English Literature degree at UWE.
Me if I was a girl back then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjWXen-Niqc
On the contrary
When I heard New Young Pony Club - Chaos - I thought "this is brilliant, they've put the stupid new-rave away and started to become a genuinely great electro-pop band." If only they could get Tahita's voice to stop being so posh and mannered..
Hands up anyone here who took new rave seriously? Bet you have some Trash Fashion CDs under your bed you don't want anyone to see, I know you do.
Wasn't New Rave a bit like Chillwave three years early?
I always thought these New Rave bands, especially Klaxons, missed a trick there, they could have easily developed into that kinda thing and put off the whole 'fading into irrelevance' for a few more years. They would've had a bit of a head start too, what with being an actual band rather than a laptop & soundcloud project.
<3 always
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4NLuLNfDZs
At the time I absolutely loathed Franz Ferdinand
Went to see them at Benicassim in 2006 because there was nothing else on and they were incredible, and I was like *Oh I'm an idiot* <3 Do You Want To