Singers who can't sing
Can we make a definitive list of singers who objectively can't sing
I don't mean singers whose voices you don't like, I mean singers who really can't sing. Obviously there are horrible artists who can really sing and great artists who can't so there's no value judgement here
Definitive:
Mark E Smith
Borderline:
Lou Reed
who else?
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Would you include people like
Neil Tennant
Bernard Sumner
80s Mozza
80s Marc Almondfor example?
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Yes to all of those
with the exception of Morrissey
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Bob Dylan
He's borderline although I can't actually handle his voice nowadays.
ajb123 and JaguarPirate this'd this -
Neil Tennant? Really?
I know he's not a great singer but to say he 'ojectively can't sing' is going a bit far. If he's included then you'd also have to have people like Malkmus, Bobby Gillespie , Ian Brown...the list could go on forever.
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Ian Brown definitely can't sing
Bobby Gillespie can bang out a tune
Malkmus is definitely borderline
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I don't think it's massively important whether someone can sing to be a good vocalist
but I can't see any way that Tennant is a technically worse singer than Morrissey.
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He proper couldn't sing at first though.
Ditto Leonard Cohen, who's now pretty much got the best voice on Earth.
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tend to agree - a lot of my favourite singers can't really sing but can definitely express themselves with their voice
but obviously the best ones can do both
NickDS and JaguarPirate this'd this -
Yeah Dylan is the obvious one for me
Also Neil Young. Isaac Brock?
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having seen them both live
Tennant is definitely, technically a lot worse
It's not so pronounced on record though
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actually, no.
compared to the examples in the OP, this is probably a tad harsh.
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Wayne Coyne
...though he freely admits at and he does have his moments. I love his voice all the same. Nick Cave wasn't that great until he learnt to sing amazingly some time around No More Shall We Part.
Antelope this'd this -
Just thought of another
That Niki whatserface from Factory Floor
she REALLY can't sing
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Repair is the dream of the broken thing.
Like a message broadcast on an overpass
All my favorite singers couldn't sing. -
ha malkmus CAN sing
just likes doing impressions of mes/lou reed
JaguarPirate this'd this -
The recent doves thread
Has reminded me that jimi Goodwin is a terrible singer.
AfraidOfOwls this'd this -
I seem to remember
The fella from Clap Your Hands Say Yeah having one of the worst voices I'd ever heard...
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David Yow. Ironically The Jesus Lizard/Scratch Acid would sound
crap if he could sing.
DaddyorChips and moshymoshy this'd this -
moker this'd this
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Wayne Coyne
But only in the range he chooses to sing in.
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Seems to me Dylan can't be arsed with singing live.
on tempest he was still cracking out the tunes.
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LOLZ
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He just sings low when he should probably sing an octave higher and scream a bit more. Like the cribs do.
Singing that low has often rendered a lot of really great Ash songs dull to me. Which is a shame because he's written quite a few good songs over the years. Numbskull is the way he should sing more.
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Yes and yes.
Part of the charm if you ask me :D
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i remember
craig finn from the hold steady said he took singing lessons for 'heaven is whenever' or something. guess he's not really a singer though (see Jarvis Cocker)
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Eddie Argos
Fucking hell
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To be fair to Billy Corgan
it's not that he can't sing. It's just that the particular timbre of his voice makes him sound like Mr Burns playing the kazoo.
It's something I'm okay with.
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te more nasal it is
te more i like it
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One I love but
Definitely cannot sing at all is Darren Hayman.
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I like Hayman's voice. I started a thread earlier this week about his
new album. My review of it in two words: It's brilliant.
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John Lydon
2 notes, maybe :) Didn't they call him "Johnny Two-Note" back in the day?
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Shane McGowan
I can't work it out, is he tune-dead or not? It may be his accent and his drunkenness that makes him sound like he can't sing.
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Neil Young?
Yellow card!
rainmaker this'd this -
he really, really can sing
watch any recent live clip. really strong voice & intonation
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Test for this:
if the singer has sung a song that no one else has made famous, would it be recognisable if it were played back on a piano?
there are obviously flaws in this. shut up
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he can definitely sing
as per my test below, the fact that you know what he's singing means he can sing, unlike mark e smith, whose vocals you couldnt transcribe at all
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Ian McCullough
Turned from god-like to lung cancer-like
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Andy Falkous?
All the better for it though.
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Elton John sounds like
Vic Reeves pub singer these days
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He used to be pretty weak in the early days but tbf he was very young
He's a pretty good singer now esp live.
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Conor Oberst
def got a non singers singing voice. Still love it though.
Got stronger in recent years.
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Bernard Sumner
again, New Order wouldn't be the same without his voice, but he hardly packs an emotional punch like a certain ex-lead singer of his.
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itt: singers who most definitely CAN sing
there's a difference between not being able to sing and having a bad voice, you fucking momos
crashingthrough and bokonon this'd this -
Syd Barrett
on his solo records. but obvs has a fragile beauty to it.
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dis-charge this'd this
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I listened to Hope of the States - The Lost Riots
for the first time in a few years last week. Still a great album, but man... does that guy struggle to stay in tune.
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First person that came to mind...
ANTHONY KIEDIS
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objectively: can sing
compared to the general level of musicianship in his band: really, really poor
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No lolz
The fucker whines. He voice is terrible. One giant vowel outstretched like a cat with it's tail caught in something. The pretentious twat.
DaddyorChips this'd this -
He,Boring?
He's fucking dire. Almost inexcusable. Kinda ruins New Order for me, totally.
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Luke Haines?
He doesn't have a great voice but still i like his songs, its a question of making the most with what you got i think
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How do you define great singing though?
Technical proficiency, the ability to hit the exact right note at the correct time like a vocal game of Guitar Hero, and go oooh-ooh-oooh-ooh-oooh at the end like Mariah Carey or Christina Aguilera?
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COURTNEY LOVE
John Lydon, Yoko Ono - just saying
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There are those who can't hold a note and those whos voice people don't like. The don't like can go on forever. I personally think Celine Dion is a horrible singer but I know she is technically very good. All that straining and overcooked emotion is awful. But those who can't hold a note too well. John Lydon and Lou Reed come to mind but love em both. Bob Dylan can hold a note but in his own unique way. X-factor has turned people into judges of singing technique and often they don't know what they're talking about.
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lack of soul
could not put it better myself Shambolic. Most of what aspires to be good singing (X fac/the voice) is utter souless tosh. Give me Lydon,Dylan,Cohen,Reed & Young anyday.
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Florence Welch
Horrendous wailing - especially when she strives to sing powerfully and it makes her strain more and more and stray out of tune - it really makes for uncomfortable listening
Annoying_person this'd this -
He's not that bad
On a side note, I always wondered how New Order would sound with a vocalist like Dave Gahan...
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True, it's totally objective
I would personally judge it on whether they touch you emotionally, which is hard to do when you're off key, but equally hard to do when your maaakingggg eveeeererryyyy woooooooord sooo loong and wooooooo-oooooh-oooooh-ooooohimshowingoffcheckoutmyvocalskillsyeah oooooh yeeeeah-ing
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Efrim whatshisface from A Silver Mt Zion/Godspeed.
Fucking hell, that can get painful.
sexydave and citizenmeh this'd this -
VIIIIOOOOOLEEEEETTTTT!
at that MTV awards show still sends shivers down my spine, and not in a good way
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Steve Albini
But isn't that the whole point of what he does? I'd still rather listen to his voice for 4 hours than Adeleli Sandie J & The Machine.
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jesus christ
Yoko Ono
god yeah
definitive
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David Gedge
(though he's got better)
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D C Berman
and especially his missus. However as he says...all my favourite singers couldn't sing.
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Malkmus can definitely sing
Spiral Stairs on the other hand ...
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He's more won't sing
Than can't sing. Although I'm sure he couldn't if he tried.
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WHY HAS NO-ONE THIS'D THIS?!
YOU'RE ALL CUNTS.
sexydave this'd this -
They'd sound awful.
Sumner's frail voice is one of the things that makes New Order great - technically his voice is poor but it conveys more soul & emotion than a shouter like Gahan.
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You thought he was bad on record?
You should have heard him live!
Still love that band and that album though.
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David Gedge
can't do what Celine Dion does. But Celine Dion can't do what David Gedge does either. There's no such thing as "bad" singing, there's just singing that you don't like, or which is inappropriate for the material being performed.
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Strangely enough I actually like the early VU material.
The solo Lou Reed can just piss off though.
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Malcolm Mooney
for "You doo right" alone.
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If Celine Dion sang looking down
so her chin was touching her chest she'd probably sound quite like David Gedge
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The singer from Alt-J
I can't tell whether he is actually singing or putting on a silly voice. The album is good though - I'd like them a lot more with a different singer.
Antelope this'd this -
YES
THIS IS MY SINGING VOICE
NO IT'S NOT IRONY, IT'S NOT ROCKNROLL
WE'RE JUST TALKING
TO THE KIDS!
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Iva Moskovich
can't sing at all. But DOV would be an entirely different band if she could.
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Isaac Brock
dunno if he can exactly sing, but he has a lot of range
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100+ posts and no Patrick Stickles?
el oh el
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Damon Albarn
every live performance I've ever seen footage of he has really struggled with the vocal range, however limited, in basically every song. Awful singer.
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This.
I'm deeply suspicious of male singers with pretty voices
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is it because they arouse you?
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It took me about 2 years to warm to the Arab Strap records where he started trying to give it a go
2 long years.
I'm over it now though so that's nice.
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Chris Martin
Julian Casablancas
Danny McNamara
Guy Elbowbloke -
CTRL+F "Kele"
0 results. Word?
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Sounds like a teen in the shower
trying to sing along to the radio.
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this is flawed blardy blardy blah
but listen to Shannon Selberg! First he couldn't sing at all, then he learned to sing, then he came up with the most ridiculous speak singing shouting melody things
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VRd7sOZ8-U
just listen to the first bit of 'singing' there. I mean who else sings like that. Blu-BLEURGH! blu-BLERUGH! blu-BLEUGH! and it WORKS! -
Guy Garvey?
You are kidding, right?
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