exactly when do they pass the event horizon between 'music fan doing it for the love', to the point where they release their first mediocre indie band record and start thinking they're some cultural force and can patronise every fucker that approaches them about working with them.

with their stupid hats and stupid haircut and beard and pointy stupid FACE.

I find it HIGHly LOLsome thaT they behave this way at their AGE.