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its not as edgy as their older stuff

more epic and well-produced

listening to old and new today, i have a place in my heart for both. "23" off this record is immense, like The Arcade Fire covering a MBV song.

with there being 7 stages...

does that mean lots of good acts clash?

its a great record

despite my copy having an irritating "You're listening to a promo copy of El-P's "I'll sleep when you're dead", out March 20th..."

Bloody brutal at times too - loved the fact it didn't have a dearth of superfluous tracks on it as well like most hip hop records...

my thoughts exactly

I put off reviewing it for ages for my rag and eventually came out at entirely the same conclusion.

"talent borrows, genius steals" i think someone once said. Not always true then...

pause is teh best of those 3

in my humble opinion

She's not ugly

Really very attractive in real life

And very good at wearing low cut tops to distract her male opponents at pool...

by the way remittanceman

i know we're all entitled to an opinion, but i'd just like to say that yours is wrong

:-)

good review gareth

but then thats because i agreed with you.

pitchfork did a good one too for once, which is nice.

i've not been this addicted to a record for years. I'm worried I'm going to wear it out, so I'm going to listen to 45:33 for a bit instead...

i love that record

unhealhtily at times in fact...

best opening trio this year?

well there is also the little matter of lcd soundsystems' "get innocuous, time to get away, north american scum'

but its a close call...

best opening trio ever you say?

spiritualised - ladies and gentlemen
trail of dead - madonna
underworld - second toughest
dandy warhols -come down
dfa1979 - you're a woman...
radiohead - kid a
six by seven - the closer you get
sfa - guerilla
arab strap - philophobia
mclusky - do dallas

i've ordered it too

the stuff on their page though and a few blogs sounds good. bit more grown up, but just as funk-e

nice review mate

i bloody love this song. i've been trying to write a review of this myself for a while, but i don't think i'll bother now i've read that. it'd just look like plagarism...

good observations all round. have you got the full length record yet?

first album...

sheesh, there's my dodgy research again, I thought this was their first full e.p.!!!

i'll be sure to check it out - has anyone seen them live?

i agree with you Dom

and said as much in this review my a fanzine:

yeah, these guys had me suckered in the moment i saw their record cover. can i stress to all bands lurking out there wondering just how to get:

a. noticed and then
b. signed and then
c. remixed by someone far cooler than them like dfa or justice to get them even more acclaim

that it is extremely helpful to have a cool-as-fuck cover for your record. for in an age of digital, throwaway downloads that'll end up lost, forgotten and sandwiched in your itunes somewhere between "the theme to quantum leap" and ultrasound's "floodlit world", it's sure nice to actually own something that you'll still remember was good some 2 weeks later

in fact, if i'd not known better i'd have said these guys had been copying the (now sadly out of print) "manual to being a vaguely successful alternative indie rock band" by ikara colt (r.i.p).

• great record covers that'll probably bankrupt them or their label? check
• spiky, energetic lo-fi post-punk tunes that sound satisfyingly unfinished yet wholly lovable? double check
• split male / female vocals and howling guitar bits? check, check and... indeed... check
• a career of playing to a devout group of adoring / whinging people like me who constantly bemoan that they're not famous or appreciated enough (probably for the said reasons above)? check, and check thrice more

goddamn it... well i'm doing my bit - now it's your turn people

there's a crushing inevitably about all these nominees / winners

and also to the reactions on here about it. come on guys, we know they lost it years ago - if indeed they ever truly HAD it in the first place in most of our lifetimes. indie is popular, meaning they cover what sells and not what ought to. it's sad, but with so many other media out there who cares eh?

they might have well called it the "tesco checkout music awards for the slightly ill-informed" and avoided the heat...

did anyone see them at Glasto 1998?

Theaudience had overrun and there was no sign of them 30 minutes after they were supposed to be playing. Then we heard a rumour their van had sunk in the mud, and a few minutes later the band appeared in the doorway carrying amps, guitars, leads etc from up a muddy track. they plugged in, went straight into a 10-or so song set and it was all over within 20 mins.

Amazing...

if only someone would invent a time machine

then i could have gone to this. sounds good... i'd pay a lot of cash to see a set of theirs that pretty much revolves around the first 3 records

i'm with you buttmunch

both bands are dire at best. it's like listening to the tail end of the "Shine" compilation records right now.

thank fuck !!!, adult and lcd soundsystem are coming back to show these wannabes how its done...

i love this album

the bassline on the opening track is immense. except the last track, its by far my favourite record of 2007 thus far.

but thats not hard to be honest...

alflavor speaks the truth

I look forward to the bargain bin sales in 4 months time and you lot all saying "Nah, I never liekd them in the first place..."

i was writing on a website only yesterday

about how generally terrible 2007 had been so far...

each to their own i guess?

has anyone got a pencil i can borrow?

I feel like poking myself in the eyes repeatedly?

it got 4 in the observer music monthly rag, but thats always toss

bloc party got 3?

bit generous isn't it?

(awaits death threats from thousands of self-obsessed and depressed people who ought to go onto hypemahcine and find the 11 minute version of justin timberlakes new single)

:-)

i saw ikara colt there

as a point of reference...

hottest gig ever too

I didn't like "Silent Alarm" much either on reflection

I jumped on that bandwagon far too quickly. Still, it did give us a few shit hot MSTRKRFT and Phones remixes...

I totally disagree that this album is any good at all

That's the beauty of individual opinion forming though I guess, and adds precious little to this debate.

But the lyrics...

the LYRICS!!!!

i'm... i... they're... grrrrr

i'm off to listen to FOTLeft for the 34th time today...

when i first heard "lord hates a coward" live

i nearly came in my pants

picking up exactly where the best bits of "the difference between..." left of, and adding in a whole heap of excellent vocal delivery and scathing shellac-isms...

i've listened to the album about 4 times now

and it leaves me really cold?

everything starts slow-l-y... gets a bit more melodic, goes crazy for a minute or two (usually involving some terrible self-doubting lyrics) and ends up making me give a huge shrug of my shoulders

will that pass?

I'm more pissed off

that the gossip are re-releasing "Standing in the way on control" - again! Is that the second or third time?

singer gets famous. channel 4 use superior remix. band re-release material ad infinitum thus losing all their "cool" original fans and making the nme worry that she ain't as cool as they first thought...

go on amy winehouse!

superb record for the most part.

terrible decision not to have "rehab", "something kinda ooh" and something by muse in the single award. but what did we expect i guess...

i still like wolfmother more than i thought i would after 6 months too...

its like drowned in sound big brother in here!

My money's on mojo to take this stick for another psot or two then gouge out jon brainlove's ear canal passages with a spaghetti measurer

i'm with you

i'd rather eat my cat's gonads than hear this pile o' shite again.

i've seen him live twice too, as support for other people. God I hate him...

Goal!

And another!

future of the left

they will be the only thing i listen to for 90% of 2007...

Good review

Much more of a move on than the last album was, and a much better album all round. The last one or two were good, but started to get very samey very quickly, and were far too film score like.

This is altogether a much better record. Still not as good as Arab Strap though...

(r.i.p.)...

No Liars

We are all idiots....

the lord hates a coward

is probably the greatest song ever

well... at least since i declared the same thing about "without msg i am nothing"

I'm guessing you didn't hit the YYY's ATP then?

Because if you had, you wouldn't have remembered any of the following 3 months...

that yikes album

ruled my world for a couple of months. i declared it as the best album 0f 2006 in a review at the time.

i was wrong - as i often am reminded by my girlfriend. but it is very good...

russia?

maybe...

As a year for albums

It's no way near a patch on 2005 for me.

Liars, The Knife, a few comps and some great pop records have saved it, but it all went a bit quiet, folky and downright wussy for my liking.

Compared to the riches of sleater kinney, the national, lcd soundsystem, dfa1979 etc etc, this year gave me precious little

but singles on the other hand...

thats 16!

cheat...

nothing by justin timberlake

losers...

good shout on the FTOL myspace stuff though. been addicted to that

This isn't some knee-jerk reaction to their success (its a bit late for that)

but am I the ONLY person who really just doesn't get all this fuss about these folks?

Libertines were a piss-weak Clash rip off without the charm or wit or indeed tunes

Babyshambles / DPThings are as above, just without the decent record sleeves as well

s.h.i.t.e.

how the fuck

have muse got 3 songs in my top twenty singles of 2006 chart?

new venue

new clashes

didn't get that at Camber. Well... not often anyway...

i fear the ATP I love might be a thing of the paast. r.i.p. youth...

congrats on that

but i thought mike was growing a beard? is it hiding behind that award?

If myspace was still an independent company

then I'd be gutted. But Murdoch can kiss my ass, so good luck to 'em...

BHN

sucked ass. "Stand by me" is one of the worst songs ever. However "D'yer know what I mean?" was the bands best...

could have been better this record if they'd veered more away from the early stuff, but hey-ho...