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does anyone think

they called this album ATP on purpose?

we limited ourselves to 5

and it's quite a way off.
and will be in our round-up.

we only got a promo of it recently

it wasn't properly available in the uk or summat

they're re-promoting it

would you rather we didn't review it at all?

but

there is a lot of them on our Fierce Panda Spotify playlist http://open.spotify.com/user/seaninsound/playlist/37vRkSm9rdsIcVs6jllwmU

great stuff

welcome back miss williams

well, duh

it was Emmy the Great week, with a week of content from Emmy the Great.

yes

it's "Emmy the Great week" she's picked a bunch of bands she wanted to interview and things she wanted to write about. There's lots coming up throughout the week.

you can get it from here

http://www.roughtrade.com/ - their album of the week :)

er fiddy...

you posted it on the other article.

well

we will have a piece about Spotify coming up but we wanted to do a week of content about the alternatives to P2P and also Spotify usage is still quite niche and the site isn't open to the public so it's a bit like writing about how great a live band is who aren't playing live again for a year or so.

it's now within the top 100 most popular sites in the world

and is being embraced by hordes of people, including many of DiS' writing team and regular readers. we write loads about bands without having shares in them and the site needs a little bit of mapping and guidance to help people get the most out of it, that's all.

yeah

i think RSS, as it's an acronym seems complicated for most people but our feed of the site is really popular.

sorry

i left the office before it ticked over to 2000 and now need to work out who it is (still haven't found anything amazing as a prize)

they're every 3 weeks the others

and there has been a small thing called Xmas in the way and our DiScover week.

this year's cold war kids?

sorry

your posts had gone up multiple times and in deleting the doubled up posts and fixing what was causing the problem, it's somehow also gotten rid of your originals. really sorry about that.

what do you mean by Catherine A.D.'s newly minted?

she's still unsigned or do you mean the slight name change?

see also

Tokyo Dragons and Towers of London who failed to follow in the Darkness' wake.

cynically, i kinda like how

Empire of the Sun might be this years Parva, having basically rebranded Sleepy Jackson.

erm

Goldfrapp? Madonna's past few albums? Moments of Kylie? Some might even scrawl a pencil line between the rise of bands like Metric and The Gossip too, with a smattering of Klaxons, Katy Perry blog remixes, etc.... But essentially it's just electroclash mark 2 and who, apart from people who read sites like DiS, really remembers Fisherspooner?

yeah

White Lies (who apparently are top of the album chart midweeks) used to be called Fear of Flying and used to support Les Incompetents all the time.

well

it was, as per the intro/disclaimer, the recommendation of one of our writers. i'm sure if you checked out all of the class of 2009 there might be something which fits with your taste.

yeah me too.

i saw florence in 2006, what's your point?

hey pedantic pants

they manage them and they're all over their website http://fearandrecords.com/ and I didn't say they released them. So nur-nur-nee-nur-nurgh!

the KEY POINT most people didn't seem to get from my article

wasn't that banning downloading would result in people buying more music but it would mean people developing services like Spotify, we7, etc...

brilliant analogy

i like this. thank you.

could you tell me

what uses these millions of people have for p2p? i'm yet to have heard an answer to this.

I think censorship of services is a better option than DRM or closing down brilliant sites like Muxtape is essentially a lot of what I was saying boiled down to a soundbite.

i think realistically

you'd probably end up paying a few pence per track if everyone was being taxed (as the weight would be shared somewhat like radio royalties or insurance) and also advertising would subsidise some of the costs too (i.e. iTunes and all download stores have to pay a performance publishing royalty, for every download)

yeah

but i wonder, if - as I suggested in my predictions for this year over on my http://seaninsound.blogspot.com/2009/01/nine-predictions-for-2009.html - labels began to sell (access to) their entire catalogue or made it easy to download, say, every Now album, whether people would pay for the package. Rather than what I've done a few times which is download a bands discography because I wanted one album which I could only find to order on Amazon and would take 2 weeks for delivery. Conversely, when we were doing our podcast we found it quicker to buy tracks from iTunes than find the CDs amongst the piles in the office, riddle me that!?

I suspect it isn't 95% of people who listen to music are downloading it for free but I put money if you even went to dinner parties with your parents and saw their average friends computers, you'd find, they've have 50 or so tracks, maybe rare Dylan bootlegs like my old sociology teacher used to ask me to help him find (not sure if I got extra credit for that).

sounds like

you should maybe be using eMusic which is kinda like that? Or if you can wait 'til it goes DRM-free then the new Napster might make sense.

the way people think music should be free hasn't be helped by the irresponsible message Radiohead sent out, which to most people was that music was free (and interestingly the album was huge on p2p http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071018-p2p-vs-radioheads-free-rainbows-why-p2p-can-be-a-hard-habit-to-break.html )

i don't disagree

However i'd much rather people who know, love and care for music and have specialist skills to help it find an audience were working with a record, much more so than Coca-Cola. Not that it's all Pepsi vs Universal but certainly things may shift to Bicardi vs Rough Trade trying to sign the same acts before too long and which one would you rather lasted another 30 years of picking and commissioning music?

interesting

I wasn't saying the full 95% would suddenly start buying but even 1 in 1000 downloads would be probably the equivalent of another 10% or £4.8billion?! Am pretty sure a lot of bands who've been dropped/had to go back to day jobs/not had tour support/given up on finding a label in the first place, who would risk signing them would be happy if that money was swirling around in the system

or

why can't journos review albums from low-quality mp3s? i'd much rather do that than sit in some major label office and get to hear an album once, maybe twice, before getting the chance to review it. some have started doing streams and watermarked mp3s but that's not useful when i do most of my listening to music on public transport or in the gym.

i disagree

"i think a lot of people download a lot of things they would otherwise not have the chance to hear or not be willing to pay out for to start with."

I used to buy a helluva lot of albums just to hear them after reading reviews or hearing them once at a friends house, either because it was before Napster existed or I couldn't find them/get them quickly cus of dial-up. Before broadband and streaming being everywhere I used to buy so much just to see what it sounded like, without really knowing if I was going to love it or not. Whereas now I pretty much only buy stuff I know I already love, either because an ex has nicked it, the CD is scratched or I don't have it when I want to listen to it... am I alone in this?

i'm not saying censor the entire internetz

just that certain sites, which are pretty much only used to share discographies, digitialized dvd boxsets and movies, should not be easy to access and as simple to find as googling "Beatles Mp3 torrent" - although I guess knowing the lingo and using words like torrent helps.

because

lots of people pre-order things. and we'll run some other content on her nearer the release. it's one of the albums most of our writers were looking forward to this year.

being fixed now

apparently it's CMYK, whatever that means.

really?

that's bizarre!?

hold fire before complaining

this video will be unlocked imminently

luckily you read that round-up and got it

not everyone would have spotted it or checked it out. this article is like double underlining the record because it barely got mentioned elsewhere.

it's not

it's a survey for government.
there isn't much "news-worthy" of note going on at the moment.

i hadn't

praps you've seen it in quite niche places?

my mixtape

is here: http://drownedinsound.com/news/4135935
plus add Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds 'We Call Upon the Author' repeated several times 'til the tape is full.

if it helps

the breadth of DiS was probably due to teh fact we had 5 full-time staff, which was due to having funding from murdoch. no sky money, no ability to be as able to cover as much music. am running the site on my own and tries to represent as much music as possible.