c_u_next_thursday

for quoting Jimmy Eat World lyrics alone. :D

with interns all week. I reckon you can probably expect to work in the music industry for a minimum of one year temping or working for free, before some kind of paid regular work comes your way (unless of course, you're lucky or your dad works at Universal). Many music companies that do interning won't even cover your expenses. One place I intern'd at a few years back said they'd only pay 75% of my expenses because I lived out of London at the time. I lasted a month and £400 out of pocket.

With writing work, you're looking at building up a portfolio probably for a couple of years before any of the national mags will look at your work. Even then, they'll probably ignore the 100s of emails you send them. And you'll probably get offered something when someone you met once at a gig name drops you.

I think DiS is actually being nice about paying expenses and offering aspiring writers this opportunity. A year ago, this wasn't the case. My advice is to get as much experience as you can whilst you're in university, interning and working for free then (if you can afford it). It will save you a couple of years out of university.

Or get a job that's not in the music industry. You'll be a lot less poor. :)

i'd do it. you pay expenses?????

lol. :)

mega wtoot!xo

and i really like Hadouken.

oooh controversial.

(and i meant that)

...

I agree though. the first two albums are spellbouding and the third, just wasn't really worth bothering with was it?

TOTBL is probably my favourite album of all time. That, or Biffy Blackened Sky.

Really looking forward to a new album!

this year I am going to ATP! Woo!

...leave my house on weds night and wait two hours for a coach to arrive?

...spend five days stinking of grub and covered in mud (because there isn't any way of showering)?

... watching mediocre bands that everyone will have forgotten about this time next year?

... hitch across the mammouth festival site in order to see small bands hiding in less than glamorous locations, and then get so mud swamped I miss my bands?

... spend most of the week in a pub tent drinking tea (when i could be in a nice warm pub)?

... hold my bladder until the toilet truck comes a calling?

... wait for three hours in a potential downpour because seetickets coaches can't be arsed to come pick us up?

... get home on the Monday morning, with hypothermia and have to spend the next three days in bed (ill)?

No, not this year I'm afraid. Unlike last year, I've got some sense.

I will be in a nice warm pub I'm sure. with toilets and everything. Bring it on!!!

:)

i feel swindled ;)

Ben Marwood back on DiS!!!!

Or am I hallucinating?! x

the biggest pile of wank they'd seen for a long time.

I lasted an hour and then flicked over to Grand Designs which was really slow and boring (nothing on last week's) but still better than the Brits.

This time last year I was having lots of sex :(
x

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to quote that article...

"Hadouken! have been ridiculed in the press for being a wannabe ‘new rave’ band (honestly, it makes us feel a bit nauseous to use the term); this may be something to do with the band’s apparel; in the comfy confines of Atlantic HQ, the band are dressed in their signature skinny jeaned/ fluro hoody combos; but do they feel that such a label is deserved? James (smith) comments, “Right at the beginning we said we weren’t new rave but as the year’s gone on, we’ve seen a scene actually develop. It started off quite synthetically with promoters booking certain bands that don’t even sound like each other but when you go on tours, all these bands know each other and there’s people going out with people from other bands, and relationships are building; it suddenly becomes a scene… it’s all interesting and forward thinking music.” Pilau adds, “Its all bands that we’re really happy to be associated with such as Klaxons, Late of the Pier, Does it Offend You Yeah and Sunshine Underground. If that’s what people want to call new rave, then we’re proud to be a part of it.”

I would laugh if it was sean's tho! :)

the Hadouken grindie thing isn't so far fetched. That was the NME that coined that phrase to refer to the fact that some bands sound a bit grime and a bit indie (OMM have just used the term). The NME also coined the term 'shoegaze' but that was about 15 years ago, but I will always love them for that! :)

James Smith of Hadouken, "It’s definitely important that if people want to find out what grime is don’t come to us. We just take a little bit of influence from it and do our own thing, and it works for us really. (The term grindie) is a conjunction between grime and indie and our music is a conjunction of grime and indie but it’s also got drum and bass and punk and metal in there but you don’t hear those mentioned because they’re white musics. We’re just an indie rock band there’s no doubt about it.”

http://www.gigwise.com/contents.asp?contentid=38381&p=2

Oh the self love :P

I can't believe you sold Mr Jam out like this! I'm personally outraged you little scamp!

nah

You have the worst taste ever! :P

Bearsuit are awesome. I think better than los campesinos. but then i would say that I liketh Belle and Sebastian!

can someone explain to me how and MP3 blog works? It is just a blog of streams?

'Is this news?' feature?

this (well not Diver's this)

Also, good call on Frank- but like we didn't see that one coming?!

oh for fuck's sake!

actually pretty good. 'Cancel on me' is a really sweet song. Suren de Saram’s voice is a less gravelly Devendra Barnhart; their rifts exemplify early Bloc party- apparently.

There's also a bombay bicycle club in holland park - for the trivia like! :)

:P

I'm interviewing Hadouken tomorrow Ben! Are they nu-rave? or grindie? I'm lost with all this scene bullshite! xxx

I'm with mr strangle_hands

In english?

I can't find it on download

my free downloads end on the 22nd. :(

is this new fangled thing

to think that a lot of people simply like stuff because they perceive that it is cool to like certain things. it's the only way I can explain Razorlight's second album and McClure's first.

i just did. I think I shed a tiny baby tear. Though that may have been from laughing at the expression on Cowell's minging mush! :)

google Paul Potts as I didn't know who he was. I'm obviously not cool enough then.

(*hugs herself gladly*)

of musical awards would they not have to have some concept of irony?!

but how are you meant to pronounce it exactly? xxx

watched the vodafone live awards last night on tv and i was shocked by just how shit all the bands that were featured on it were. I mean Q has always been made for old men growing old disgracefully clinging onto any semblance that they once were cool. It's the only way I can excuse the awfulness.

Oh hang on...
Q Innovation in Sound
Sigur Ros

Q Merit Award
Ryan Adams

That's not too bad is it?

After the Vflive I watched some mobile breaking bands thing with Alex Zane- I think Jo Whiley has had botox. A lot of crap bands on there tho but quite funny when Lily Allen got one of the lead singers phone numbers and then couldn't remember his name?! I never liked her, but that was quite amusing. I'll remember that next time I hear 'Smile' played in Asda along with the Kooks and the killers efforts.

are you feeling particuarly cynical today? You realised you managed 10 words on the band in that review (if that!)?

I really want to call you Dobby. Oh the shame!<hides behind hair in corner of room> LOL

a few weeks ago- he's really quite scary. Not sure just how far right a person can actually go before they come full circle and end up back in the leftfield but I'm thinking Talbot is a bit more confundled than most!

Abandon dignity? Ummmmm

negative trash-album reviewing... it's more a case of learning to pick your battles.

Music is an industry after all. Some of these student types just don't get that in order to survive as a musician, you have to be able to absolve some income from these activities.

It's blatant naivety. It's one thing to hate a genre of music, even if that is a made up genre of music, but it's quite another, to use such bating to disguise the fact that you're just against any sort of commercial activity.

I feel sorry for the musicians that are casualities of such reviewing. If a band is wank and undeserved of their income fair enough, but pick your battles. Seriously.

Wholeheartedly... for a change!

I actually really dislike this kind of reviewing. 'Mondeo Pop' is a hilarious concept... a couple of years ago this was known as the '£50 bloke in borders' (people over 30 who have £50 to spend on cds and attempt to make themselves look cool with their selections).

I interviewed Scouting for Girls a few weeks ago. And yes, whilst they do have a tendency to play fresher's balls, they are also not the worst band on the planet. There are far worse evils out there... Reverend and the Makers being the favourite this week.

Man, this just riles me!

I hope they do play this record on heart FM and I hope that people go out and buy it, because unlike a lot of other commercial bands, SFG actually have an amount (however small) of talent between them, that most dire pop bands couldn't dream of.

Said from the depths of the indie ghetto that was. I'm going back to reading Music Week and Art Rocker now.

what I said about this album! LOL

for saying this is a shit record. Can I be controversial FOR A CHANGE?!

new lows on the drowned in sound forum...

it should have been Test Icicles' wave

Richard Dundas is my new best friend for coining that phrase (whether he likes it or not).

7 reasons why they suck:

1) Are they really part of the nu-rave scene? Yes they are perpetrating the mainstream with their pop infectious dance/rock overtures and general pissed-ness which unfortunately does indeed resemble what was once known as 'Rave'- i.e a bunch of twats leaping around with glow sticks, getting pissed, whilst donning stupid neon smiley face tee shirts and telling everyone they're off to a rave (dave) in a field in the middle of nowhere in their banged up ford fiesta, but they've just got to pop off and get some white lightening from the offi before it closes first. And yes I am only enough to remember Rave the first time around (the youthfulness is plastic surgery I tell thee- I'm really 103!).

2) Being pissed at every single festival appearance this summer (with perhaps the exception of Glasto's dance tent) does not maketh you important musicians who should be awarded with a supposedly prestigious prize to celebrate the quality of your music, especially when that music cannot be played live because all members of your band have a drinking problem.

3) There are bands that do New Rave better. If you want 'proper scene' rave look no further than those with the song 'It's a Rave Dave'- Trash Fashion (this is just hilarious).

4)Trademark's 'Over Again' is better than anything the Klaxons have penned, including Golden Skans, and you don't see them nominated for the Mercury Music Prize.

5) Bat for Lashes' album Fur and Gold is absolutely amazing, in an alternative indie ethereal way, and we should be celebrating artists like these, who are not afraid to step away from a scene and create interesting and innovating music.

6) Even The View can play relatively well live, the Klaxons can not.

7) Every time I see one of the Klaxons' heinous live performances I want to smash bottles of beer over their heads as people are playing them good money to watch them get pissed and play below-par sets.

for music... because they're the only places you can really see bands from july-sept! And in Reading's case you can usually see about 20 odd bands for just over 100 squid at least before they put the prices up!

I'm just saying that if you're only there to get pissed you can do that anywhere - you don't need to beat the crap out of people and try to kill them! Seriously this is what Reading is getting like. Thanks Gingerninja I'm glad you understand what I am getting at.

I'm of course not saying we should all be sober... I rarely am!

I went to Glasto, I'm a vegetarian and read the Guardian. But I bloody hate the Kooks! Are you saying I shouldn't be allowed to go to Glasto?!