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yum.

love the caption above covering face.

...this band must have very good pr team....

....where is that cat picture from.

amazing!

.....people calling these guys a joke band. they're genius

i often try and use bands that i think could do with a bit of dosh.

The Clean have been on quite a few times....funny...

....i put them on t4.

should i admit that?

....just bad. BAD

slow club promo - so post modern, and strangely endearing....

...like iggy stuff. still haven't seen it. would love to, but can't get to any shows...kinda frustrating

soundtracks can be good.

me personal favs would have to be

blade runner and deadman - the terminator is pretty amazing too - so harsh.

this film will be ace

buddha in it?

do you like Paul Verlaine.

if you like good guitar music research the flying nun back catalogue. Sonic Youth, Deerhunter, pavement and interpol did.

link.

thanks

yeah.

Australian. you crazy german.

20 years!? shit i must be old.

so much fun....thanks for the tunage

and it's ace

lo-fi? lo-fi!? talk me through that please?

Use Your Illusion 1 or 2?

aint much space here for loads of reviews.....if you want a review of that album, google it. if you want a review of why? come here? seems like a waste of space to me, but whateves.

good album

...of remastered albums????

there must be something new to review!???

are stunning albums. great tunes, great production. i hated them when i was younger, how wrong i was....U2 reming me a little of Pink Floyd, not musically - but if you compare A Saucer Full Of Secrets to The Wall, they sound like different bands...U2 have done that, to there credit....een if i'll never buy a new album, at least they're trying.....

still an interesting read - although i don't really think it was 'cool' to like u2, we'll not since the late 80's, but maybe i'm being a snob.

people on here will hate this record, they see bono and the past (which is fair) and don't really listen to the songs. i think 5 is about right....

...funny i put that on the other day, and for some strange reason, i like it a lot more now....maybe the same will happen with this record....

nice review, i'd like to hear the album....

are sounding to much like TVOTR for me.....

WTF!?

i know some (one) of the kora guys....how the hell did this happen!??

they inspired artists that went on to make said music. but i might be wrong. i might be right. i might be in the bath right now.

...i really like ice cream. should i tell you all about it.

no.

whlist i can understand why you like it, i find this very droll and.....
.....dull, dull, dull.

enjoy youself and your little one liners. me? i'm off to the pub to play records and laugh....

154 in an on going series...

surely not.....the youth wont know him, sure - not most car owners will, me thinks....

...i kinda stopped reading after this.......

..they're been set up since the start though - their (very good) manger snapped them up at the 1st gig and everything has been timed for them....i'm not surpirised they're no.2 oin the list. the manger knows his stuff, innit

but i don't like 'em.......'artistic purity' - i'm sure they're trying their best - you don't become a tosser cause you have a good manager - but i don't like 'em.

....yeah pretty harsh.

true, but they are pretty nice guys....(we'll 2 of 'em are lovely)

...so how much would pay to hear my mp3? or if your curious would you just download it for free. the latter right. why would you play for something you don't know or trust? that's stupid.

radiohead where as irresponsible as the KLF where in burning a million quid. They are a huge, huge band who make a very good living from music. To equate that with a small band is naive.

not everything is equal.

some really good points mutatman.
i would be really interested to see how many people on here have even been in a signed band/worked in the industry or even know anything about how it works, apart from buying records, and loving music....

anyhow - it's clear that opinions are pretty divided, which is strange. People usually listen to the musicians they love...and i bet your favorite musicians wouldn't agree your arguments that everything is fair game....

i'm not complaining, and i have a good job. a .but i don't think working in the music industry should be a 'luxury' and i'd add that most people that work in the industry worked very hard to get there one way or anothe, and work hard to keep there jobs (especially these days)....and i know what your saying, it's not massively important - being a nurse, a doctor, working with the 1000's of aids victims in Africa, that stuff is important - but i still think it's important to have The Arts, and thus musicians and music- no one has ever said being a musician was easy - it never has been - nor should it be - but i'm not sure i'd regard it as a luxury. i think people that make a living out of music are very, very lucky - but they work hard. really hard. harder than most 9 to fivers..

i work in TV - that's not a 'normal' job either is it? that make it a luxury? or do i work my ass off in a really really competitive industry (a lot like the music biz) . . it's a lot like being a musician and i can assure you it aint no luxury.

a lot of working musicians work a lot harder than 9 to 5....you just see all the fun bits.

no one asking for a hand out - is just there is hardly any money about anymore for up and coming bands and that is due to people downloading.

jonny_rat - i think we argee. although i think we should all go back to the 8track.

..of course people get into music because they love it - but like any art/craft or skill you work at it till you get better. this takes time and .........money.

you need money to make your art. you need to pay the rent, eat and stuff like that. you gotta buy things to make sound from....you don't need a lot but a bit. for a small band 3-6 years ago indie labels would give them an advance - which they could live off (just - maybe have part time jobs) . this is happening less and less...

why?

because companies are making less money.

why?

downloads.

it's a simple truth - one i know you don't argue against - but i think you and most people on here would be really surprised to learn just how much it effects musicians they love. you know the nice lovely ones, the non greedy ones...the ones you sing a long too..

it's just a simple fact so something has to give.

...think they know about how the music industry works -just because they listen and love music - what a joke...i have a good eye for photo's and art but have no idea about art as an industry....which it often is

i wonder how many people here who think they know the 'solution' have worked in the industry...

you wrote all that this morning...wow i feel so lazy.

something needs to be done -

this effects emerging talent more than anyone...

2 years ago i would say everything was fine, sure the big record compaines where making less money - but hey whatever. i was in a band. i was signed. people could hear my stuff. some liked it, some not - but loads of people heard it - i didn't care if they had to pay for it - then some bad stuff happened and i find myself looking for another deal...and the difference it those 2 years is amazing - small indies don't have any money - they never did - but now even less - and less than less is not much - most of the A&R people i know have to look for hits - even the ones for 'underground' labels - sure nothing new - but it seems to have become a lot worse, people are taking less and less risks

....also music producers are really finding it tough to find decent work - good ones too - ones that rate highly with you lot - the budgets they get now are so small, and they get such little time to make something - because labels have less money

- i'm not being bitter either - but much has changed - and as i said it effects up and coming music more than other areas of music - and we all love hearing new music don't we. Sure record companies were too greedy in the past - but it's not right now - and it's effecting the wrong people the most.

are a fool

....this site really is going downhill, things like this - and the kaiser chiefs taking over for a week - really bad

..is this here? really!?

crap.

should read 'but for me'

sheesh, i need coffee

the end is bad too, but you get the idea...

i think this is a fair album, it's good, very good in places, but your me, doesn't gell together in places - to often it sounds like a bunch of ex-jazz school students have a giggle and being 'clever'. which can be a tad annoying to say the least, but have said that there are some lovely moments. 7/10

review....what an interesting read...just a LITTLE better than our 'guest' writer here...

really badly and say things like

'interesting song'

good one.

one man band breaks up?

huh?

it don't make no sense, pa....

..i was there. i like the new album, sure it's got the odd bit of edam, but i think there is on Deserters Songs too...

sir.