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For example It’s Hard to Walk Tall When You’re Small is not about some anonymous Latin male. It's about Mike Joyce.

A more open mind is required.

Also, saying she's better than Leona Lewis and James Morrisson is meant to be a recommendation? Are standards so low that we are praising people for being mediocre?

This is very ironic seeing as for five years The Smiths sales virtually bankrolled all the other Rough Trade releases. Credit where it's due. Whether you like them or not, it's not fair to ignore them and try and pretend they weren't vitally important in keeping the label going.

I think what happened is that Marr was involved with this from the start. He picked who would remaster it. After Morrissey made a statement recently about having no involvement with it Warners and Marr swung into action and persuaded him to get involved. So this is really a Marr approved project primarily.

Who are doing this with Bloc Party this week? That ex-NME scrote has taken over editing duties there and is turning it into Heat magazine.

Apologies if it's real.

Media consensus should never be mistaken for public consensus. They are two entirely different things.

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But the sad thing about it is that the actual artists seem to fall for the hype. At least the careerist ones do.

Awards are a nonsense and they will mean nothing in the long term. How many awards did most "classic" artists win? And does it make any difference to our assessment of them now? Of course not.

Opinions aren't relevant when reporting the facts of an incident. You can't have an "opinion" on whether Lydon racially abused anyone. Either he did or he didn't.

I'd be very wary of believing a story from the NME who aren't much different from the Sun these days.

It's record company marketing just like the Brits. They just market it a little differently and put it on a different tv channel to try and make us think it's more "serious". It isn't, it exists to sell product.

They just see it as a way in to a career as a tv presenter.

Every band that signs to a major knows they are signing over control of their work. What makes Radiohead think they are so special that they should be treated any differently?

How many artists have control over their back catalogue. A handful at most.

as I would be if Jade Goody got emphysema,. To me they're on the same level.

This sort of language seems to be ingrained in American society. It's like they don't even realise they are doing it. Visit any music message board and you can tell the American posters straight away. They always use the words "faggot" and "pussy" to put others down. It's part of the "jock" culture that seems to be the absolute norm, even in "indie" or "alternative" circles.

Makes him homophobic. Same as if you called someone black as an insult, it would be a racist comment.

Deep down he thinks being gay is a bad, unmanly thing to be.

it was a marketing ploy then?

Terry is in a different class to George Lamb. He doesn't treat his audience like they are idiots.

How some of these journalists have such hate for the man. They are like rejected lovers some of them. It's like Morrissey refused to have a pint with them and be their friend back in 1991 and they won't forget it.

Courtney may be just trying to cover up her spendthrift ways.

..there's no reason for "fans" to assume it should be. Just because some artists are content to just play hits for the rest of their career, it doesn't mean everyone has to.

Trying to be "down with the kids" and proving how democratic and inclusive they are.

Personally I get the impression that the quality bar for manufactured pop groups tends to be much lower simply because people don't expect as much. If they release anything vaguely catchy it's hailed as a work of genius. The same song released by an indie band would be slagged off for being unadventurous.

Deserve to be split up

Call me paranoid but I think there's definitely more to it than just laziness and jumping on the bandwagon. There's obviously a hell of a lot of money being pumped into Adele. Am I the only one to suspect a whiff of the flowers and fruit budget?

Seeing as he sent it to all his professional contacts at once. I'd class that as a broadcast.

Is run by middle classed boys who can only relate to the working class if they fit all their cosy stereotypes. They can't cope with a working class kid who prefers to read a book than get pissed up on cheap lager.

..will repeat the wonderful bit of PR spin they managed last year?

You know, where they turned up for their awards, put on special outfits to accept them, then had a great time at all the after parties.

..But still managed to convince everyone that they'd never been there because they had too much integrity and were above stuff like the Brits.

A work of genius I thought. And hypocrisy.

He is the worst pop star ever.

Morrissey comes across as someone who refuses to take responsibility for his own actions.

Jonze comes across as a freeloading know nothing who will say anything to anyone to get himself out of trouble and has simplistic knee jerk political views. He reminds me of me arguing with my dad when I was 14.

Conor comes across as just another Sun editor. Will stitch anyone up for a dollar.

What I will say about Morrissey is at least he comes out fighting with style. I can't imagine any popstar of today just relying on the written word to defend themselves. They'd be off to their PR to arrange a fake romance for the tabloids by now.

That's a given. Which is why he discussed immigration with the NME in the first place.

Given their history with him, was it one of the dumbest things any pop star has ever done?

Jonze has admitted as much. He said it was essential for him to finish the story.

Jonze has characterized it as "the language of the BNP". That's why he was so shocked he said.

I don't know much about the BNP but are they now notorious for softening down their language to appeal to the everyman. If we are going to start censoring ourselves to make sure we don't sound like them, it's going to be a very tricky path ahead.

It's a bit like not being able to use the flag because they do.

Morrissey said everything that's been reported. None of it is racist just out of touch and a bit dodgy Daily Mail-ish. Jonze didn't really think much of it at the time and carried on gushing and asking for freebies.

When he gets back to London, Conor sees it and realises they've got a chance for another NME/Moz/Racist scoop. They organise another interview to try and get Morrissey to say something worse. He doesn't really, but now he's said everything twice so it means they can use it twice.

Jonze hopes to keep out of it because Conor rewrites it for him. Jonze sends an email to Merck to pretend it's got nothing to do with him and he's taken his name off the piece. That way he gets paid but still keeps in with Morrissey.

What screws Jonze is Merck publicly releasing his email where he says his work has been changed and he can't understand it. Conor threatens no more work if he doesn't stand by him.

Whatever happened, it's great soap opera!

Basically it's Jonze gushing about how great Morrissey was in the interview and trying to blag free tickets for that nights show for all his mates.

In this email he sent the day after he was so offended by Morrissey's racism.

http://www.morrissey-solo.com/article.pl?sid=07/12/01/1610212

All he's saying is he would have put an even worse spin Morrissey's comments. I don't know why people have been seeing Jonze as the hero in all this. He was the one who saw a scoop and a chance to make a name for himself and decided to extend the immigration angle of the article in the first place.

I think nothing illustrates your point more than the amount of people on here prepared to pontificate on Morrissey's views when it's obvious they haven't bothered to read the article concerned.