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I'm sure a lot of people who trawl this site were at this show, I was
and it was the end of the pretty long, cold and wet day... It certainly didn't feel legendary at the time. It felt uncomfortable. Mudhoney had mud thrown at 'em, Nick Cave didn't (after John Peel - bless him - suggested it might not go down well). Pavement, the Melvins and the Screaming Trees were all great. Mudhoney were too of course. The whole day was billed as being full of artists chosen by Nirvana/Kurt. But personally speaking... it was a slight anti-climx. I've watched the DVD and whilst it has it's moments, KC is on auto-pilot for 50-75% of the performance.
Tony the dancer performed the year before as well and that show DID feel legendary. Much better set, a nicer day with an equally amazing line up and personally the 1st time I heard SLTS.. one of those moments when you turn to a stranger and go 'Did you just hear that song..?!! F*** me that was good!'. I mean folks KNEW N***** were special pre their performance at Reading in 1991... Christ a lot happened in a year to that band/man. My tuppence. Ta.
Not that bothered really.
Fine article/news piece though - very well written. Nice one Luke:)
Some game I'm never gonna play has the image of some dead dude I REALLY liked 20 years ago on it and the arguement is about - what exactly? Cool points? Money? E True getting prissy with his ex-main squeezes widow? Their respective legal representatives not reading the small print>Whatever... If you like KC A LOT you may even have the little figurine doll or a pair of his replica trainers or whatever. You may even buy the re-issue Bleach CD/vinyl/download out in a month (I know I will). Personally I've eased my hatred towards Bon Jovi since despising them in the late 80s. Not so much that I'd buy a record, go see them live, google them, look up live versions of Wanted Dead Or Alive on youtube - but ya know.. lifes too short.
Talking of Scott Walker
I saw him pushing his bike up Turnham Green Road in Chiswick this lunctime. Scott Walker and a bike with two bulging saddle bags.
Made my day that did:)
Neoteric : Of recent origin; modern.
I learnt a new word today! Thanks Gerard Cosloy!
Everyone needs insurance - even Iggy Pop.
he can do what he wants - he sang on Funhouse.
Since when has an album got to be 45 mins long?
Sorry man but go back 40 years and tell me Fifth Dimension by the Byrds is no good cos its 35 mins - or Shame About Ray by the Lemonheads is no good cos it's 25 minutes or the Strokes Is This It is no good cos it's 31 minutes. Or whatever. Modern albums are tgenrally too long. 8-10 tracks is enough thanks - less tracks better quality please.
If we're talking about Ride - I'm with you brother!
Nowhere was limp... 1st EP was ok-ish. Saw them on some spring tour pre-Nowhere.. turgid stuff. Could never fathom the appeal.
Rave Down EP
and the B-side Shes Beside Herself I really liked..at the time (still think I like it...I'll dig out my vinyl tonight to check!), but Swervedriver at the time....live I never saw them be that good and they seemed a bit of a watered down version of Dinosaur Jr and the teaming US Alt Rock masses... Strangely over the years our friends across the pond seem to have made them into cult heroes...and got all excited about this reformation.
I realise this sounds a bit harsh - and I really really liked the Rave Down EP - actually I am being too harsh.. sorry. They were OK! But not shoegaze - at all.
Never thought of Swervedriver as shoegazers...
MBV, Lush, Ride, Moose, Chapterhouse and Slowdive yeah... and then ya 2nd gen of Revolvers, Mint 400 etc etc... But not Swervedriver... too in thrall to Dinosaur Jr, Sonic Youth and US alt-rock. Maybe its just me...:)
This was great.
Sub Pop - favourite label of all time.
Gareth D - doing what he loves - hello Gareth!
Megan Jasper - she's a nice lady and knows J Mascis very well.
As someone else said - things I didn't know - Jon P won't use the company loo. Who'd have thunk it?!:)
I like Grunge too.
So a result all round.
Bah humbug to you neysayers I say!
There's no denying that Lanegan
has made some fine fine albums both solo and with the Screaming Trees and for a while his QOTSA collab was interesting... but I think he's spreading himself a bit thin what with the Soulsavers, Guuter Twins and Isobell Campbell et al. I caught Gutter Twins live in the US a month or two ago and it was really pretty dull (it was at the end of a very long day though...). In fact Lanegan at the Astoria at the back end of the Bubblegum tour was one of the worst shows I've ever seen... He just needs to (in my opinion) release another solo album - free of Dulli, Homme etc etc.
I'm a fine of his work with Mike Johnson (live they were pretty dull too though...). But respect to the man for keeping on keeping on.
Reading 1991 over 1992
1992 was muddy and hard work... mud..so much mud. I only went for 1 day as well and I'd just split up with my girlfriend and...it was an endurance test! Sure Nick Cave, Mudhoney, Screaming Trees, Melvins and Bjorn Again on paper looks amazing but it was really cold, wet and miserable experience for thee - but these bands must have been good.. Nirvana were ok - but much much better the year before... Dinosaur Jr, Babes In Toyland and Sonic Youth and probably a bunch of other bands and Nirvana were great! 1991 was much better...S'not all about Nirvana though. It was hot - who else played? James? Carter? Neds? Kingmaker... it's amazing how I've blanked all these out...jesus christ... what a terrible terrible bunch of shite. I can remember the Sisters Of Mercy headlining on the Sunday - they were funny...
cos they're on Sub Pop and played the festival
obviously...
Glastonbury 1990
8 hours stuck in a car to go 500 yards to exit a tiny wee gate. 1 gate! 1000s of cars. This is after the travellers had kicked off. Bad vibes that weekend.
Then finally after we left the site this girl (freaking out on a bad trip I think) got into our car at a petrol station and demanded to be driven home. Screaming. Not cool.
Got home at about midnight. 15 hour trip. Hated Glastonbury ever since - have had to go back twice as well for 'work'. Horrible.....
It's another great Melvins album!
Listened to this a bunch - I like it a LOT - but.... and there is a but - it's just not as celebratory as Senile Animal.
As for it not being a good album to start your investigations? Don't listen to this guy up here - he's 'never been a huge fan':)
Launch their own label?
Does that mean they're gonna give up being in this dull band and get like 9-5 jobs? Sorting out MCPS statements and chasing label copy and Metadata for digital singles? Approving TPs and placing ads in Plan B and Artrocker? Or is this, like most bands 'labels' some kind of dull sham for for a few half baked crap bands that they've met on tour/and or are mates that'll fizzle out when they get their first annual P&L balance sheet? Call me a cynic...(you're a cynic).
Cos they don't 'copy' them really do they?
Wooden Shjips are an extremely excellent loud (but not THAT loud) fuzzed up rock band - and so are Les Rallizes. But 10 points for mentioning them:)
that footage of the Osprey
is amazing. Sadly I've missed the last 2 episodes of Spring Watch. I love Spring Watch. Did anything good happen?
Mogwai are a fine band too. Always great live - always releasing albums you want to buy/listen to.
20 years and just the one slightly ok release
(Piece Of Cake - which has sold more than all their others AND it has Suck You Dry on it) and that is still head and shoulders above most bands recorded output.
The reason they carry on is cos they're still knocking it out and still seem to enjoy it and still make killer albums! Why should bands stop cos they pass 40? Or no longer have 'hits'? 99.9% of bands barely make money and never 'make it'. Roll on July 11h in Seattle:) I'm hopping on a plane to Sub Pop 20!
Totally!
What are you isscrafferty? Their bank manager?:) They made a few bob signing to Warners back in the silly grunge days. Never got as big as that Narvana band... but what the heck. Sure they 'break even' jeez...
Great stuff Mike
I must have read a 1000 Mudhoney interviews - ha ha ha - and this is a great one:)!
Cheers
Gingers don't go grey!
We skip straight to white.
I plan to look like Billy Boswell from bread by the time I'm 60.
WIth a long white beard:)
Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge On Seattle
surely?
Bleach wise. Always been my favouite Nirvana album. Saw them twice on the Bleach tour supporting Tad. They were rather good back then. Whatever happened to that Nirvana band? Must be time for a come back soon.
So my 10 would be for the litle thats its worth:
Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge On Seattle
School
Floyd The Barber
Smells Like Teen Spirit
Milk It
Scentless Apprentice
Negative Creep
Breed
Sliver
PennyRoyal Tea
cheers
7 our of 10 though!?
Easily an 8 - heh heh heh:)
I'm as cool as a cucumber bud:)
You're still wrong though.
x
I'm not implying anything.
You're the one describing the music as 'staying into redneck territory'.
I'm mystified that you think Redneck isn't an insult though. Are you trying to reclaim the term then? Good luck with that.
But yeah - lets disagree on this.
Yeah but it's not 'redneck'.
That implies something else and it's insulting - non? A real negative connotation - know what I mean? Whats wrong with a bluegrass country vibe anyway? Thats the bands thing - at time. So a songs redneck if it has a banjo on it? Hmmmm....
I disagree with that as well
I don't think they do:) Sorry.
Their version of the Swimming Song isn't that far off from Loudens and or Kate and Annas version. How do you make a song sound Redneck? Change the lyrics?
Sample in the sound of spit hitting spittoon? I don't understand?
Redneck Country?!
Townes Van Zandt and Louden Wainwright III are NOT redneck country! Eh? Louden Wainwright is not country for one thing. Let alone a redneck! I think Townes (bless his soul) would be upset at being described thus too. Aside from that yeah it's a fine album:)
If they're so 'annoyed'
at their old labels release of a cash -in 'best of' that why don't they do something like donate the royalties they'll get from it's release to a charity or something? Not saying they should do that - but rather than carp on about it... oh fuck I don't even care what they do:)
No the best gig would be a 10:)
Ok 9 - 9.5 whatever - I can score my shows as I see fit:) It was good innit. Saw Nick Cave back in 1989 on some tour or another when it dropped in at the old Reading Festival.... Caught him pretty much every tour he's done since. I've never seen what could be described as a 'bad' show from him. Seen wee solo piano shows - full band, stripped down band. Yeah occasionally the subtleties of what they put down on rekkid gets lost live - but there ya go. He IS a showman. He was a showman in the Birthday Party - the show was him falling over.
You never seen a show you couldn't fault?
I was talking about the show
from last night - so we were at the same gig:) And yeah they DID trample all over Get Ready For Love. Only downside for me really... oh and the couple of drunk fools who stood in fromt of me for 30 minutes texting ... WTF! You've spent £30 a ticket and you spend your time looking over your shoulder at the balcony and trying to get a decent shot on your shit mobile phone to show your mates. But this gig was a 9.5 mate. Come on!:)
Nice one Mike.
Saw the show last night. Astonishing. This was one of the best (if not best) of the 15+ NC&TBS shows I've seen. Frightening how on it Cave was. Band were having a whale of a time. Missed cues, maracca battles, drum-offs and back to back guitar/mandocaster action to boot!
I've never seen a Bad Seeds crowd break into handclaps or Nick lead the crowd in a backing vocal sing alongs like on Lyre Of Orpheus! Band seemed totally into it too.
No sound issues to speak of. Nick Cave mounted a roadie at one point! God I hope I have as much energy as he does at 50!
I thoroughly recommend you all go to the last Hammersmith show tonight in London.
With you on that.
Much respect to Bob. Started listening to Husker Du late 80s. Loved Sugar (well Copper Blue and Beaster - not a fan of FUEL). Am really not feeling District Line at all.
Still - pretty good interview!
I;m still getting the hang of this:)
Ha ha - this was in reply to OceanRains - Rubin kiss of death comment. Jesus - my spelling...sorry
Accorinding to who?
JOhnn Cash (if he were alive - are you blaming Rick Rubibn for JCs death?....:), Neil Diamond, Slayer, Beastie Boys and the Cult to name a few may disagree with you hombre.
Yeah but why do anything
musical then? I know what you 'mean' but to quote you 'I just don't see why it was made'. What you don't think 'they' should be allowed to make music? Or because it references music from 30+ years ago its not valid? They've got identity! It's Ethan frickin Miller man! How much more 'identity' do you want! The minute he opens his mouth and strums his ice blue Fender Jaguar! Meh! to your posting! In the nicest possible way and in the spirit of free expression:)
You've heard their first album as well....
Maybe?
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha a a.
Sorry:)
No - I specifically blame
you!
Ha ha ha:)
You just didn't work hard enough on this project so I'll be cutting your retainer. OK?
Tish and fipsy..:)
Sorry but De Rosa ARE a 'truly great Scottish band' and their debut WAS criminally over-looked by, oooh, 90% of the music press/online.
I can remember DIS and maybe Mojo at some point going for 'em. But NME typically saying it was a poor/run of the mill/Chem U effort. Lazy NME journalism....shocker!
Under the radar it may be - great it truly is... well worth a punt.
The writs in the post Manish:)
But you're right - I'm The Oceans a great track.
Maybe I'm just bitter... I went to Reading Fest for the day in 1995 (?) to see PJ and NY and had to leave after Soundgarden and missed 'em....
Bummer.
Regrets.
I've had a few.
Interesting interview ith NY in this months Mojo.
The thing is
when I first got into Neil Young in the late 80s or whenever he was seen as a 'heritage artist' (though I'm not sure that term had yet to be coined) and somewhat past it.. He's what - early 60s now? So he would have been in his early 40s then! Younger than Nick Cave is now. Sorry my point is... folks should just check him out! Yes Chrome Dreams II is great. I have to admit to struggling with Greendale, Prairie Wind, Living With War etc. I'm sure there time will come though. I've just had to check to see if I have Trans! I don't! You see after nearly 20 years of listening to the dude and I'm still missing 'key' albums... Who other than Dylan can you compare him to? Springsteen? I think not.
Oh and The Bridge- the covers album - feat. Loop (LOOP!!!!), Sonic Youth, Flaming Lips, Psychic TV, Victoria Williams, Nikki Sudden etc is THE BEST covers album.
Neil Young. Bloody hell:)
Sleeps With Angels
is an awesome set of songs. Safeway Cart is just beautiful, and Change Your Mind is an epic NY/CH work out. I've been buying every NY album religously the week they come out since Freedom. Melody Maker sort of single handedly in the late 80s started the NY re-appraisal when he released this weird ep called Eldorado in Japan. Some songs turned up on Freedom. He did an acoustic tour which landed up in the UK at Hammersmith and they gave it rave reviews. Freedom of course spawned Rocking In The Free World which MTV played a lot in 1990 which was pre-Grunge explosion /pre-Pearl Jam cover/pre-Mirror Ball album which strabgely folks hardly mention... It's not that bad.. even though it features PJ!
I personally think Zuma is ace too. But Harvest and After The Goldrush totally soundtracked me turning 18 in 1990. What a year that was...those records are just golden. They glow. But saying that On The Beach is probably in my top 3 albums of all time. Tonights The Night is not far behind. One day I reckon we'll get the 'real' Tonights The Night sessions album as part of the archive.
Can't wait for Toast...
Oh and NYs Unplugged album is amazing! Stringman!! He's off-cuts are better than 99% of other musicians careers!
The film of the Weld tour as well....The crowds reaction. Neils the best innee.
Can I be the first person
to comment on this?
Thanks.
Most exciting news of the year.
Much respect to you.
This is a great interview.
I saw Tad
stage dive at the Astoria during Mudhoneys set at the Lamefest in 1989.
Took out the front row. He was awesome!

In Photos: Monotonix @ Hector's House, Brighton
In Photos: The Specials @ Hammersmith Apollo, London
In Photos: Camden Crawl Launch Event @ The Blues Kitchen, London
In Photos: La Roux @ Shepherds Bush Empire, London
I asked my wife, who was there as well, if she thought it was a
'legendary' show - no, she thought L7 were better.... Gotten me thinking, where does all this 'legendary' show stuff come from? Journos with agendas:)? It certainly, was their 'last' UK show. It's undoubtedly a 'notable' show maybe even 'infamous'.. but legendary? Nah I think not. to me it smacks of another N******* myth...