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mos def confirm this, although it's actually a bedroom. Beautiful house it is too.

suggest*

to say that Fucked Up are just some hype machine creation is stupid, they've been going for as long if not longer than The Bronx and people have only just noticed.

comparing the bronx and fucked up, well relevant, those bands are definately similar, well done, pat on the back *pat pat pat*

Bon Iver
Fleet Foxes
Fucked Up
TV on the Radio
British Sea Power
Conor Oberst
Maps & Atlases
No Age

due to lack of funds, sounded sweet though (apart from hecklers, but that was probably just in london)

anyway...

Chem Com is not as good as Hidden World, that's pretty much fact, but its still a damn sight better than most other bands who aren't clever enough to push things forward more. They are pretty much the ONLY band from a hardcore/punk background bothering to do something useful/acknowledge the genre's power and this album is kinda like edited highlights of Hidden World which means you cut to the chase a lot more but as a record can't develop as much (that said it still took a few listens of this for me to get it)

Hopefully seeing them twice this week (will be 7th and 8th time now I think) and I'm excited to hear the new stuff live

I do agree but I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing.

the thing is their early stuff is pretty much powerful better than average intelligent hardcore, and then Hidden World was such a jump forward that it seems like they had to take a couple steps back. A lot of this record feels like the missing link between the two even though i'm fairly certain most if not all of these songs are new. This is going to split fans anyway, there are people out there who can't listen beyond 'Epics in Minutes'.

its probably the last of the very small list of albums to have a really massive effect on me.

Hidden World is just such a challenging and thus rewarding record because it really pushing boundaries within the walls of punk and hardcore music very much in the same way Black Flag did (I find it amazing that comparison isn't made more but then how many people actually LISTEN to Black Flag?). The songs are so epic and huge sounding because they're so long and have time to expand that it requires a few listens to hear all the things that are going on in pretty much every indivisual song.

I honestly don't believe they ever cared about "selling out" or anything like that, when they started they just started as a DIY punk band but no one would have noticed them had they not taken a risk on 'Hidden World' it now seems to me that their just running with their success because they can, and its fun, I don't believe its done anything to the music.

This record is really really good, it has a lot of hypnotic points, its just not as good as Hidden World. You can't think of it as a punk or a hardcore album because it seems to me that the band aren't interested in sitting in one scene - that's what makes them special - you just have to stay with them and go along with what they're doing if your going to enjoy it.

I think this is still a great album and still has a lot of interesting stuff going into it, but I'm surprised that your saying this is "weak, noddly meanderings" cuz if anything I'd say Hidden World is more like that, that's what makes it so challenging and rewarding, this record if anything is just a more digestible 'hidden world'

ah, i'm rambling

go do it now if not, its even bigger and even better (but we warned its a hard listen and takes even longer)

how the hell is this only a 7/10, everything you said was positive?!

I'm pretty sure there's more songs from Inches than Let's Stay Friends

awful.

because why review it? why? really? does it make you feel big?

no one who reads DiS (i'd have thought) cares about the Paddingtons or any other band like that, so why waste your time doing a smug review/rant about it, really?1

fucked up fans are great and the joke gets funnier as they get more popular

me too

BSP FOR WIN!

and I generally agree but I sadly think its a romanticised view just because of the state of play right now.

It would be great if there were more obscure bands/newcomers involved, amazing in fact, but then no one would be interested, because we live in a mostly selfish and apathetic country who only care about what they're fed.

I hate to sound like one of them patriot-bashing guys but that's just how it is, the majority of people just wouldn't be interested without the Adele's or the Alex Turner's, and they're only interested in them because record labels tell them to and maybe the people behind the awards feel they need that interest, perhaps its a money thing. Maybe they all get paid off, I dunno.

basically, yes I do think something like this should be used for strictly new bands but it just won't happen in this country. Not on this scale anyway. And I think that's why (despite their constant desire to slag each other off) people choose to come to websites like this one and read whom they think made the "best album of the year"

they played in Brian Johnstone Massacre's intended set and were terrible.

this is my version of proceedings; http://heff88.blogspot.com/2008/07/t-in-park.html

and I'm glad the guy took the time to say how it was an otherwise un-pretentious and really welcoming festival despite the tragedy.

J.R!

although everyone will copy

didn't tnink there were that many "arenas" in the UK.

I thought that was a negative review

they're releasing it on my birthday! how fucking perfect!

can't for saturday at T, Fucked Up followed by Rage and if their rubbish then Interpol!

because it's not for fans like us because there aren't any b-sides (which is really annoying and a mistake imo)

i hope people pick this up and see how good this band were, but if there's no b-sides its pretty much pointless for anyone who ever liked them in the first place. shame that.

jesus!

and although ideally for me personally its all post kid A material, 'fake plastic trees' would be nice.

but, I don't really mind what I get, I'm just happy to be seeing them and hope the crowd and the band are happy.

wow, this responce is really wishy-washy, HOLD UP:

IF THEY DON'T PLAY IDIOTEQUE THEN I WILL SUICIDE BOMB. I'M LISTENING TO FUCKED UP, NOT FLEET FOXES.

needs to calm down

but I'm still unbelievably excited about Okkervil

plz

ATTACK

they're just whinging that they didn't catch M.I.A the first time round so when she came around they were rubbish their sweaty palms together

described nat king cole's voice as "chocolatey"

than a observer music monthly article on name dropping

CLIMB OUT OF OWN ARSES PLEASE

on the monday Efrim talked about how there is no politics to the band did he say it on tuesday or not?

aren't I at this :'(

Mike, well done, you've proved there is still some sense and interesting discussion left.

To be honest, I think I'm gonna go all out and just say the whole country is a bit of a mess. The sense of "community" was increasingly weeded out during the 80's and 90's (that's not just music, that's society generally) and now getting your band noticed, particularly with social networking on the go, seems completely random and luck based. As a country, we are simply too small and too packed in to really make that kind of an impact and our media knows this and saturates it as much as possible, particularly where you compare to America where basically every major city has a definable sound or sounds and some great bands come out of that.

Now anyone who knows me will know I have pretty little faith in British music as it is anyway; (literally, a very small percentage of the music I listen to is British because I simply don't see the appeal, and besides we haven't done anything truly important since The Smiths - I would argue) so perhaps I'm biased, but to make up for it, I've toured this country a couple times and was signed to a London based indie label (Holy Roar).

But to be honest I can't say I've found that goldmine "community" everyone's looking for in the country. The closest I've come to it would be the Leeds/Sheffield connection (a part of the country renowned for it's sense of community anyway) where there are some very good bands whom share space and time with each other (probably because of the massive influx of students in that area).

Where I come from (Norwich) music has been dead for about 20 years. It had a brief re-appearance at the turn of the millennia when people found The Ferryboat (which we're still missing badly to this day) as a new hotbed and for a while we had both a great Hardcore and Indie scene. Since that's closed though it's pretty much all but dried up with a similar situation to the guy who posted about Nottingham.

I think the guy who made the point that London actually is really good for non-guitar based music had a very good point, Electronic music has been thriving there for some time. Otherwise though, London's a difficult one. It is, as someone pointed out, far too massive to really have a community, but for a valid music scene? There are some areas perhaps but really it seems more about bands commuting. My band have only played London a couple times so far (despite being on a London based label) and they have not been necessarily any better or worse than any shows anywhere else. All it means is that there is a greater chance that more people will come, by default if nothing else.

I talked to Chris from CPWK about this on tour and he pretty much agreed once I put it to him, Britain's idea's of "mainstream" and "underground" are generally too blurred to make a difference. I mean take Rolo Tomassi, they all met/grew up in this tiny village just outside of Barnsley and were fortuned with friends who spread the word to other friends and so on. They as a band just carried on working hard and now they are in probably one of the best places a British band can be in right now (Underground appreciation, Mainstream bothering).

So I think my point is, it doesn't really matter any more where in the country you are based. You just have to be prepared to work hard and travel anywhere who will take you and try and give the best you can everywhere you go and just hope more people will take notice and like you, particularly in a country that's so obsessed with being spoon fed everything you have to just keep on working and try to have fun with it - I know I did when I was involved with it, and I can't wait to get back into it, wherever I end up.

are awesome live

hahaha

at their final show, hung out with Louie afterwards.

Sad news

rolo tomassi definitely aren't

the guy from the NME is just trying to cuase a bit of a fuss and missed the obvious point that, really the observer should just be critisised for "silly, buzz-word laden journalism"

nu-rave after the klaxons said not to call them it

The observer actually described Hadouken! as "a schizoid grindie mash-up"

GRINDIE, FOR FUCKS SAKE!

NME think they're speaking out for a "downtrodden" people that doesn't exist, and the observer are just fitting as many buzz words as they can so 30/40-something's can think their still hip.

are total jokes to be honest