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amazing black female singers like Miss Scott or Badu? Inevitably Adele will be showered with praise even though winehouse is the ruler of non-black female soul artists.

so it's not a british thing. I voted for the shins, they did well.

um people who complain about the type of music on the list are forgetting what site they're on.

I have only heard cuts from some of the others and otherwise not at all.

a motor accident - people are just glued to these shows despite complaining about them constantly and enjoying something to talk about in their otherwise bore-infested lives. Would the British office be the same without the dullard section rattling on about how they want so and so to win or how x was out of tune last week? People derive pleasure from the melodrama too and like to see the workings of a programme that claims to make stars. Some viewers are still taken in by the idea that if they go on these shows they can quit that dead end job, stop going to school and be all famous without realising that the realities of being a successful musician or artists yep even a pop one are alot tougher and require more effort than things like the x factor, Idol, fame academy, musicool and now this show.

There are also the ghoulish viewers who drop out after the audition stages and perpetuate reality tv while condeming it in the same breath. They enjoy laughing it up with friends in front of the idiot box before going out on a Saturday and making fun of the hapless 'weirdos and deadbeats' who turn up to be humiliated by Cowell but they add to the viewing figures anyway and are as much a part of the whole circus as the devotees who turn up to the finals with images of their favourites emblazoned on cheap cotton t-shirts and one finger pressed on send text to that easily memorable 883322 etc number.

Point being, it still makes watchable tv even if you hate its empty hearted, robotic guts because people are still tuning in, because on Saturday there are no alternatives unless Strictly come prancing suits your tastes, granny can't go out, many young kids deluded into thinking they can be popstars instead of hold real ambitions can't go out, couples don't want to go out and the rest are just killing time and the producers make it so easy for people to VOTE NOW, flashing those numbers constantly on the screen but reiterating that your 50p will be lost if you vote before the lines open and you've seen all the ACTS.There's money to be made and people like Cowell and Fuller and the 'judges' are the ones making it. That's why Sharon Osbourne walks out of the show then comes crawling back the week later, she gets her money, viewing figures rise. All.so.cynical. It is lucrative for the judging panel, I'd argue one or two can't afford to not be a part of the hideous machine. Minogue for example is being offered more things than she can shake a stick at now because of her appearance. she's releasing a new single with Jason Nevins (remember him?)and FHM would quite like some pictures of her.

Those 'bands' in the channel 4v branches of realmusicitytv are not PROPER as you say, they're a mix of naive fledglings who just want their band heard and stage school precocious brats who aren't used to hearing the phrases 'no' and 'you can't' They want fame now and their arrogant enough to believe what they're doing is true, unique and worth subjecting the general public to. The reason their on the show is that they know nothing about the music industry or have gone through every possible audition in the Stage and decided they may as well dance with a more powerful devil than some chancer who's setting up a new gimmicky all-girl band to rival Girls Aloud.

Reality tv is still biting everyone in the arse and people still feel satisfied and repulsed by it in equal measure but not enough to press the off button because isn't that that girl who happy slapped some other girl and it got posted on youtube, my god what can she have to say for herself? The watching continues.

This isn't news, outside of the forum what does stabby mean?

why not explore other genres? I find indie ultra boring at the moment. It's not just the over exposed like this lot that are incredibly dull. Name one newish indie band that really excite you?

They're good and the brains behind it is a mate.

After that I could care less. I haven't heard anyone to get excited about yet.

Americans call chutzpah. She seemed like she was overjoyed to be on tv.

How can anyone hate Joe Mace, he's like wallpaper. I actually think Steve Jones is the most annoying C/T 4 person at the moment. Miquita seems like a fish out of water and Alex Zane is great but Alexa just makes popworld even more MTV than it already looks.

get away with the 60s girl pop thing and the blonde that was meant to carry the first song was so badly out of tune it was painful. I think the one with the glasses carries that band and should go solo now.

DPT - Yeah they're very Libertines outtakes aren't they and they don't seem that comfortable together. I notice Barat hasn't been doing many interviews letting Hammond take them instead as if they expect the Pete subject to dominate their press coverage. If they'd made a good album that wouldn't happen so much. All the reviews I've seen have called WTA average. I think this single is their only half decent song even though it's derivative and lacks real spirit. It's still better than the others they've previewed.

any of them could survive on their own as with every other British girl band - there isn't one archetypal girl group I believe could go far if one disbanded and went solo(in Britain) It seems people here are much more accepting of yanks doing that a la Beyonce/Left Eye and even then the star never shines as bright as when they were part of a quartet/trio.

hmm I don't really find her as unattractive as people say compared to the other two. All I can say is that they occasionally turn out a good pop song that outclasses that coven of guilty pleasures for males known as girls aloud's entire and brief back catalogue.

like demo versions and Fear Of Falling. They should have stuck the original I want you to stay on it too. I wouldn't buy it because they're doing new songs and the new album is coming late this year.

I rate a few of those. BUT The Cribs? Honestly?

didn't compare their sound to AM OR The Bravery really - it was a point about their authenticity that probably fleshed up Bravery allusions.

Sure TOTP has little to do with longevity and mainstream success to fans but outside of that little realm of people who go to see them wearing their devotion on their sleeves I took that the reviewer was saying they don't have mass appeal because they lack something.

This is where I agree with the review. Having listened to Alligator I just didn't take much from what I heard it seemed to be affecting emotion rather than resonating any real feeling especially from the singer.

Rather than the flag imagery being amazing, astounding or peerless it actually appears forced.

I think I could count 3 songs I liked on Alligator. one was Daughters...the rest was just un engaging to me.

isn't meant to be the indie times on here. Surely you read more than this site for music news? If it holds some pop cultural relevance why shouldn't they deliver a humourous report on it.

It isn't need to know info but then hasn't DiS reported on these kind of things for a long time? It's never had straight music news without the stories that took digs at pop cult figures.