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I was too full of swine flu last week
to make comments. I will double down on "Aidy's Girl is a Computer" one of the very best.
I would go and buy
St Vincent bread from Hastings.
Great album,
one of the best of the year no doubt.
If I didn't know who this band were
or wasn't at this gig the tales of them nipping to the loo, bickering and generally faffing about would sound like they would be annoying but it was anything but.
I've heard it's going to be available 3*LP
This reviews pretty much articulates my frustrations with this record that stop it being up there with the best of their catalogue or the very best albums of the year.
These reviews have all been top notch
and this album is one of about three dozen I'd give a 10.0 to.
The FAK single got me slightly emotional as well
after a few listens, I think it was sounding like 'Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want' that topped me up.
Even longer than that as well,
First version appeared in 1998. Today I don't feel like a child.
Looking forward to the rest of these!
Nice.
I had to look up the link via the magic of Google as I'm away from Spotify but my one is http://bit.ly/elYQn for the stuff I could find. Needs cleaning up as some of the songs have been taken off Spotify since.
That was meant to say 'literally just seen it described'
but not by me. A poetic but disturbing description. (Which I have repeated to be fair). 'Throbbing menace' is definitely better.
i have literally
just descibed FPABH as 'A swollen rapist's dick of a tune' elsewhere. 'A throbbing menace' is much more polite.
Marcus,
Which song was it that you had written on tour with Laura supporting Adam Green last year and you performed solo in Oslo with the lyrics in you hand? This has been bugging me for ages and I keep meaning to ask.
Betfair, half an hour ago was
Florence and The Machine 3/1
Speech Debelle 6/1
Kasabian 13/2
Bat For Lashes 8/1
Lisa Hannigan 11/1
The Horrors 17/2
Friendly Fires 10/1
La Roux 13/1
Glasvegas 16/1
The Invisible 35/1
Sweet Billy Pilgrim 43/1
Led Bib 41/1
Good to see one of the albums I ranked highly
win. Especially as I didn't really care much for Grammatics and Rolo Tomassi.
Well done guys.
I forgot
"No Dancing" by Elvis Costello "Turn On Me" by The Shins and "Daddy's Gone" by Glasvegas as well.
I have a mix CD of 19 of these at home btw
so this is official my idea.
Right, as I have a list on Spotify of these.
but can't access the link from work
Butterfly - Supergrass
Cry Tough - Poison
Destiny or Circumstance - Ian Brown
Don't Worry Baby - The Beach Boys
Eighties Fan - Camera Obscura
Everything Must Go - Manic Street Preachers
Fighting Fit - Gene
Give Me Love - Lucky Soul
Good Day to Die - Hot Hot Heat
Homecoming - Green Day
I.P.C. Subeditors Dictate Our Youth - Clinic
Joey - Concrete Blonde
Kenya Dig It? - The Ruby Suns
Little Does She Know - The Kursaal Flyers
Matchbook Seeks Maniac - Deerhoof
Millionaire Sweeper - Kenickie
New Idols - The Long Blondes
Only Yesterday - The Carpenters
Our Time - Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Rag Doll - The Four Seasons
Say Goodbye to Hollywood - Billy Joel
Sex - The Pipettes
Sowing Seeds - The Jesus and Mary Chain
The Pledge - Brendan Benson
The Way Life's Meant To Be - ELO
The Weight of the World - Editors
This Angry Silence - Television Personalities
What You're Doing - The Beatles
What's a Girl To Do? - Bat for Lashes
You Took the Words Right Out of My Mouth (Hot Summer Night) - Meatloaf
'flan in the face'
Is a reference to when Claire Short indeed got a flan in the face from an anti-globalization protester (also a friend of Yorke's)
Can beat starting the day
by cheerfully withdrawing your bellend.
There is a song on this album
called 'Barney Rubble'.
Ladbrokes
Put a longlist up in January, February. There's normally a thread on Digital Spy around that time as well.
I think last year they really seemed to get it right, bar Portishead's omission. This year it seems to be back to the checklist approach of nomination. I don't think that's done on purpose, just a tragedy of the commons.
La Roux and Florence and too Marmite to win the award, Horrors SD, F Fires and Bat For Lashes I had money on beforehand, £2 at 33s, 50, 18s and 8s. Still think that 5/1 is good value for Two Suns.
The problem with
numerical ratings is two-fold. Firstly critics are at pains to divulge a score until the 'right time' in the lead up to a record's release for both PR reasons and for not wanting to jump the gun on an opinion. This feeds into the second one, if the album has already been heard by the kind of people who are likely to read the review, then there's a good chance that they are reading it to back up their own opinion on the album and the easiest way of doing that is to look at the score.
That 9th paragraph
is so true. "Wasn't as good as when I read it" comments have been thrown down to so many that read the music press over the past 25 years by the elders. Even looking at ten year old copies of The NME I'm staggered by the space given up to words; not pictures not adverts for hair gel, not week old news just words about music.
I still have that (and most) copies of BANG.
Dead Rock Star fashions was ahead of it's time.
"Paul Westerberg was 21
when the Replacements released Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The Trash"
Wilson and McCartney were still 23 when work on Pet Sounds and Revolver was finished.
This album is OK, it's like a flaccid penis though in that as nice as it maybe it's not as great as it could be.
Figure this is the best place for this
On the Radiohead forum, atease, the music board do a top 1000 list of members favourite songs ever with about 150 odd people submitting up to 500 songs. Obviously the top 10 has A Day In The Life, Like A Rolling Stone, God Only Knows and a Radiohead song (It used to have about 3 or 4 though to be fair)
Thread can be found, with results here http://www.ateaseweb.com/mb/index.php?showtopic=235060015 or from http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=53aa92f4dd7c7f5467cd7f7bd65f7eefe04e75f6e8ebb871
Naturally The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Aphex Twin, Oasis and so on are not on Spotify however out of 1000 I've added 827 to http://open.spotify.com/user/mitchellstirling/playlist/3HoGQX9EMZxI8A9PckuDrE and think they aren't rpey re-recordings or live versions in most cases.
Excellent
Can't wait to get home and co through these, I spent many a day pouring through these and discovering many many bands.
I have a rather large Spotify playlist that I should be dropping quite soon.
Very enjoyable read
Making me think about going myself next year!
I think they've must have ruled them out for
Being on Warner Brothers Records in the US they've taken that as not indie. Slightly unfair on any non-US artists, very unlikely that they would be distributed in the US by an indie.
Mojo's UK list plugs a lot of the gaps.
50) Huggy Bear - Herjazz
49) The Delgados - The Great Eastern
48) James - Village Fire
47) Swell Maps - Read About Seymour
46) Camera Obscura - Lloyd, I'm Ready To Be Heartbroken
45) Half Man Half Biscuit - Trumpton Riots EP
44) The Wild Swans - The Revolutionary Spirit
43) The Pooh Sticks - On Tape
42) Fire Engines - Candyskin
41) McCarthy - Keep An Open Mind Or Else
40)Jane And Barton - It's A Fine Day
39) Josef K - The Missionary
38) Ride - Ride EP
37) The Bodines - Therese
36) Shop Assistants - Safety Net
35) The Primitives - Really Stupid
34) Saint Etienne - So Tough
33) The Sea Urchins - Pristine Christine
32) Elastica - Line Up
31) Stereolab - Peng!
30) The Wedding Present - George Best
29) Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth
28) New Order - Temptation
27) Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out
26) The Libertines - What A Waster
25) The Loft - Up The Hill And Down The Slope
24) The Vaselines - Son Of A Gun
23) Aztec Camera - High Land Hard Rain
22) Happy Mondays - Lazyitis (One Armed Boxer)
21) The Pastels - Up For A Bit With The Pastels
20) Spacemen 3 - Revolution
19) This Mortal Coil - Song To The Siren
18) Lloyd Cole And The Commotions - Rattlesnakes
17) Teenage Fanclub - Everything Flows
16) Wire - Outdoor Miner
15) Echo & The Bunnymen - Crocodiles
14) Belle & Sebastian - Tigermilk
13) The House Of Love - Destroy The Heart
12) Subway Sect - Ambition
11) Felt - Forever Breathes The Lonely Word
10) Primal Scream - Crystal Crescent/Velocity Girl
9) The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
8) The La's - There She Goes
7) Arctic Monkeys - I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor
6) Joy Division - Transmission
5) My Bloody Valentine - You Made Me Realise
4) The Fall - How I Wrote 'Elastic Man'
3) Orange Juice - You Can't Hide Your Love Forever
2) The Jesus & Mary Chain - Psychocandy
1) The Smiths - This Charming Man
Think Amazon slavishly stuck to
Indie means independent record label line when ruling out The Smiths, R.E.M., Pixies, Joy Division / New Order and so on but stuck to the ‘slacker-ish American stuff from the Nineties, nothing too loud plz’ demographic with the actual picks. Next to nothing that doesn't fit that template on here.
With
Dido on the front.
Yes
Stipe sang Lucky at Tibetan Freedom Concert in June 1998 and Thom Yorke sang Patti Smith's part on E-Bow The Letter.
More pedantry
Street Spirit (Fade Out) and Pyramid Song made #5. No Surprises and There There #4 and Paranoid Android #3 on the UK singles chart.
fantstic review
Great album.
NAIR
FTW
I'd go with 6
after a couple of listens on Spotify. Not sure why people are going ape over "Breathe" (elsewhere) it smacks of trying to hard to make a stadium rocker. The best moments are the quieter ones like "Fez" and "White Snow". Make the third and forth tracks a third shorter and I'd be happy as well.
If I Don't Go Crazy, Boots, Stand Up Comedy and Cedars of Lebanon (for the bad bad lyrics) I'm not so keen on.
and by rockism I mean
It's rockist for me to think that that is sad, isn't it?
Sadly a lot of people think like this (rockism?)
I have a friend who listens to any album she owns; Various artist, greatest hits or studio on random. I try and explain that songs are usually in a certain order for a reason and if it's an LP you wouldn't get up and randomly flip the thing over and throw the needle about. Not would the second side of Abbey Road sound much good either.
Maybe people are just too obsessed with being 'lol random'
Good piece, really good piece
In saying that Blur sold millions haven't the likes of Kaiser Chiefs and Killers sold more than that dragging up the likes of The View, Black Kids and so on through NME association in the same way?
Who's to say that bands like Animal Collective haven't done something like this with their most recent album in the same way Elbow have, being the most widely heard of their career etc? Who's to say a band like Fr. Rabbit could have a U2 or REM shaped career?
and I'm not sure they qualify as lasting acts but The Doors (who I can't stand), Hendrix. Patti Smith, Massive Attack, peaked with first album surely. What's a better career The Smiths and Pixies recording three dozen very good / great songs in 5 years or Portishead releasing three great albums in 15?
Does anyone think that "City Song"
sounds like "Colours of The Wind" from Pocahontas?
I don't quite agree with a 7
but I will say that every other song on this seemed to have a moment or a hook that I enjoyed. Unfortunately that was surrounded by both unfocused ideas on the rest of the song or the other middling efforts on the record.
and for record companies saying
the Radiohead model means less money for new talent development; where are the job cuts at places like EMI? A&R not in PR and Marketing.
I would use eMusic
if they had a catalogue more like 7Digital's and DRM-free. Napster's Pay To Go service again would be great but I can't use the programme on my work's computer and would prefer a straight download option.
Is that really Radiohead's fault though, the record companies deserve scorn for making people re-buy their record collections again and again on different formats and re-issued tacky badge and a photograph etc. In their arrogance they marginalised the singles market by trying to force people to buy albums instead and it worked for a few years but they didn't bank on the fact that they were leaving out the new generation of music fans who come to loving music through the radio and singles as they can't afford albums. They tried to push them onto Now compilations and now more casual music listeners who do use iTunes cherry pick what they want from an album and are suddenly spending £3.19 not £12.99 on an album. Secondly who's cheapening music and perpetuating the free sterotype by giving away more CD's each Sunday in newspapers then get bought the rest of the week in shops?
Totally agree with this
It's ridiculous to assume that students all over the world would be out spending money they don't have if they couldn't get stuff for free. They'd shrug their shoulders eventually and decide that maybe they don't need to hear every Frank Zappa album ever.
Both interesting ideas Sean
The one thing that has always struck me about this is that if the average US citizen buys 1.4 albums a year and the report mentions "US broadband users spent an average of $12.50 on music in 2008, compared to $7.80 for UK broadband users, and a mere $0.60 for Spanish broadband users" there must be a lot of people spending nothing to cancel out even people like my parents who might buy 7 or 8 albums a year between them, let alone music fans who think almost nothing of spending £50 a month on records / downloads. If 7digital or whoever will allow me to d/load say 400MB of new records (call that 75 singles for the sake of argument or 6 full albums) and 100MB of older records (to counter older stuff being £3-5 now) for £25 a month I'll take that. Will probably reduce the number of impulse purchases I make and I'll end up spending the same over the year I'd say. They could also offer an option of d/loading an album for £4 and letting me purchase a CD copy it for an additional £2-3
This whole affair smacks of shutting the stable door after the horse has not only bolted but lived a full and prosperous life in the mean time. Even shutting down every p2p and file hosting site will not prevent a generation of music users thinking they can get stuff for free. They'll find another way.
Great News
Really hope this also means Glasto as I don't fancy Specials and Blur tickets this week and some disappointed relatives come Xmas day.
When I couldn't afford CD's,
I downloaded a fair bit but I also borrowed as well. Now I can afford them I buy one album a week at least and a handful of 7" singles etc, compared to the average of three albums a year I sleep easily downloading the odd b-side from a blog or checking an album out first.
I've always expressed a complete distaste for "Lol I downloaded 200 albums this week" scum but I do sometimes go "huh" when I hear record companies claiming that each download is a lost sale. I think that recent studies have shown it's the tech savvy that are downloading illegally in large numbers as they; i) know how to ii) have a low threshold for boredom (will download whole album and listen to three songs on it) iii) Didn't grow up buying singles as a way into music as previous generations have done . I think that if they couldn't download for free they'd not suddenly find the money, if they did it would probably hit live audience numbers.

In Photos: Monotonix @ Hector's House, Brighton
In Photos: The Specials @ Hammersmith Apollo, London
In Photos: Camden Crawl Launch Event @ The Blues Kitchen, London
In Photos: La Roux @ Shepherds Bush Empire, London
One thing about this album that makes me laugh
Is that 'Pink Stones' sounds like the end credit music to Henry's Cat.