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but, funnily enough, it kinda conveys my level of enthusiasm for this album. At first I though it was rock solid, but it's started to slip in my estimation. When flipping through '09ers to play, I pause over this one and then carry on looking -- no rapture to be found here...

a bunch of other quasi-shoegaze stuff (e.g. It Hugs Back), but haven't gone back to it since. Need to give it another listen...

Cheers.

but I just can't get past the stupid name to bring myself to check 'em out.

My loss, quite possibly...

Don't recall Drop Nineteens, though. Think I'll track it down to see if it's one of those ones that I always loved but never knew who it was.

Is it sad that I still check this item every day in the hope of new comments? I miss shoegaze week already...

I love that album, and I love that song, but I've never thought of it as shoegaze -- esp. seeing as the bulk of what I do consider shoegaze came out a couple or years (or more) after I first heard that album.

Leave Them All Behind -- Ride
Coast Is Clear -- Curve
Sight Of You -- Pale Saints
Christine -- The House Of Love
Slut -- Medicine
Why Won't You Talk About It? -- The Radio Dept.
It Will Find You -- Maps
Pearl -- Chapterhouse
Rave Down -- Swervedriver
A Given Right -- Engineers
Only Shallow -- My Bloody Valentine
Turnstile Blues -- Autolux
Machine Gun -- Slowdive
How You Satisfy Me -- Spectrum
The Perfect Needle -- The Telescopes
I Was Right -- Underground Lovers
Nothing Natural -- Lush
Frequency -- Sounds Like Sunset
Teen Angst -- M83
Boo! Faith -- Boo Radleys
When You Sleep -- My Bloody Valentine
23 -- Blonde Redhead
Like A Daydream -- Ride
Octet -- Deerhunter
Shine On -- The House of Love
Peng! 33 -- Stereolab
Faît Accompli -- Curve
Bus -- The Radio Dept.
Never Lose That Feeling -- Swervedriver
Do What You Love -- Soundpool
Babymaker -- Pale Saints
Hey Hey Helen -- Lush
Don't Look Now -- Chapterhouse
Thursday -- Asobi Seksu
Spiritualized -- Shine A Light
Heavy Lifting -- Ambulance Ltd
iamundernodisguise -- School Of Seven Bells
Souvlaki Space Station -- Slowdive
Vapour Trail -- Ride
Soon -- My Bloody Valentine

There're a couple in there that won't be very well known (Underground Lovers, Sounds Like Sunset), but otherwise I like to think they're pretty much essentials. In spots I stuck to the DiS list against personal picks.

Re: Moose. Silly, I know, to have a shoegaze list not featuring the band the "scene" was named after, but -- what can I say? -- they had no impact on me beyond the fact that some journo coined the term after seeing them.

Need a Spiritualized and an early Boo Radleys song to finish it off, I reckon.

Not available in my region.

I think I'll keep working on it over the next couple of days, though

Blonde Redhead - 23
Stereolab - Peng! 33
Medicine - Slut
Maps - It Will Find You

Got five spaces left, though I'll ditch a HoL if the case for something else is good enough.

Ride - 'Like A Daydream'
Ride - Vapour Trail
Ride - Leaves Them All Behind
MBV - Soon
MBV - Only Shallow
MBV - When You Sleep
Curve - Coast Is Clear
Curve - Fait Accompli
House of Love - Christine
House of Love - Shine On
Slowdive - Souvlaki Space Station
Slowdive - Alison
Swervedriver - Rave Down
Swervedriver - Never Lose That Feeling
Lush - Nothing Natural
Lush - Hey Hey Helen
Chapterhouse - Don't Look Now
Pale Saints - Babymaker
Pale Saints - The Way The World Is
Underground Lovers - I Was Right

Radio Dept. - Why Won't you Talk About It?
Radio Dept. - Bus
Autolux - Turnstyle Blues
School of Seven Bells - iamundernodisguise
Deerhunter - Octet
Soundpool - Dream Sequence

Asobi Seksu - Thursday (?)
M83 - Teen Angst (?)
Engineers - A Given Right (?)

I'll take suggestions on Spiritualised, and advisement on the above selected tracks by Sway, Revolver, Tresspassers Williams, Spectrum, Velocity Girl, and Lift to Experience. I'm not going to pay the Pumpkins, JD, Sonic Youth, Verve or Adorable, and I'll accept an alternative Slowdive for Alison and another Chapterhouse song to add to Don't Look Now

Few I haven't heard before, and a few odd choices, but otherwise I wouldn't mind being able to pull the lost together and giving it a couple of runs. Particularly like seeing House of Love and Autolux on there.

I'd flick Smashing Pumpkins and Joy Division (despite loving both) purely for being well and truly out of place. I'd have to assess some of the unknowns and would probably drop at least 2 tracks each from MBV and Ride and maybe one Slowdive in order to fit a couple from Curve, at least one from Pale Saints, one from The Radio Dept. and one from somewhere else (S7B?).

This is a pretty decent first draft, but I think we can improve it. We'll need to start by setting a 2 track per artist limit (maybe allowing 3 for Ride and MBV).

Where the fuck is Curve?!!!

Don't say I didn't warn you Dom!

http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4176137#r4532806

but there's some great stuff on the list.

From the above, I'd say the following would make a similar list premised on a narrower definition of shoe/nu-gaze:

Blonde Redhead-23
Deerhunter-Microcastle
Maps-We Can Create
My Bloody Valentine-Loveless
Pale Saints-Comforts Of Madness
Radio Dept-Lesser Matters
Ride-Going Blank Again
Ride-Nowhere
School Of Seven Bells-Alpinisms
Slowdive-Souvlaki
Stereolab-Peng (nice pick!)

Add to those the following:

Curve -- Pubic Fruit (first three EPs)
Curve -- Doppelgänger
Curve -- Cuckoo
Lush -- Gala
Pale Saints -- In Ribbons
Underground Lovers -- Leaves Me Blind
Underground Lovers -- Dream It Down
Chapterhouse -- Blood Music
Medicine -- The Buried Life
GB3 -- Circlework
Deerhunter -- Cryptogram
Soundpool -- Dichotomies & Dreamland

and I'd probably throw in (against the narrower definition) Ladytron's Witching Hour, because it's too good to leave out on a technicality.

Spotify is not available in all regions of the world. Any chance you could list them in the article?

the first listen of Sounds of the Universe didn't thrill me, but I really think I need to give it a couple more spins.

Ouch! How's the cheek, Dom?

let's fucking make it shoegaze year!

b) bands that copy their influences are great if their influences are great.

c) there's copying your influences and there's copying your influences. It's all about the *way* the "influences" feed into the final product. E.g. pastiche (collage) is not the same as pastiche (imitation).

I like this album. I think there's a lot more to it than many will allow. In fact, I think it's wrong to describe it as a "steady parade of influences". The "influences" aren't sources of inspiration or models of song writing; they are materials used in often unexpected juxtaposition.

shame it won't load on my iPhone.

completely unexpected (I've not been following da word on da street).

My immediate thought was that I'm going to really like this album -- except the horrid "Dragon Queen", which I already know I will never learn to like.

My fave album of the year so far.

Just thought people should know that.

I've been raving about this for the last two months or more and was shocked that no one seemed to rate it. Looks like no one had actually heard it.

Great review. Great record.

to think that the above "analysis" and "solutions" come from someone who might otherwise be seen as presenting an alternative to the mainstream music industry practices and logics.

and another two of mine in the rest of the list.

Not too much of a mismatch, then.

Curve were great! The first three EPs were slices of pure pop-noise perfection, and subsequent albums were much more hit than miss.

Ride, Curve and the Pale Saints are the shoegazing trinity in my book, although I really like Chapterhouse's Blood Music, and have no objections to Lush and Slowdive (though didn't ever buy much of their stuff). MBV's Loveless was the Ur-text.

Swervedriver made a different kind of noise, but were -- by force of circumstance -- counted as part of the scene. Saw them in '96 and it was pretty impressive, but everyone in the crowd was waiting for one track and one track only (okay, maybe two if you count Mustang): Rave Down, which was something of an anthem at the time of its release.

http://whothehell.net/archives/1982

And then the likes of that fuckwit from BPI come along and try to claim that they're just looking after the artists, bob lob law.

"I'd argue that (generally) people don't use p2p to discover music, rather they use p2p to avoid paying for music they have already discovered and want to acquire."

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. If you want me to add some argument in support of that general point, add some to your own and maybe I'll reply in kind.

"The key phrase here is 'illegal p2p'". If that's all you're concerned with, then the solution is simple. We'll redefine (via legislation) what counts as "illegal p2p" so that file-sharing of any kind is not illegal. Goodbye problem. Either that or quit fucking arguing the point in legalistic terms, and address what the debate is really about: power, money and inequality.

Fuck these big record company stooges give me the shits (and yes, I know you're from BPI, rather than a record company; doesn't mean you're not the willing instrument of those companies).