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Odd
since I think parts of it are more tuneful than the last two albums. I've found myself unexpectedly humming melodies from it in my head past few days. Today it was from Zercon, the repeated refrain of roman numerals. I think Corps De Blah has quite a strong melody at the centre of it. Mind You Don't Bump Your Head and Phrasing have also to a lesser extent. But then if you're expecting hooks in such a work, you're always going to be disappointed.
I don't think it's as good as the last two albums. That said, I probably need to hear it another 10 times before I can properly assess it. It is certainly messy and the way the music soundtracks the lyrics is becoming a little too literal for my liking. Also I'd rather his voice stayed more neutral as there's a theatricality to this record which is OTT. But then that's just a personal preference.
I'm glad you crossed out the word 'pretentious' (though you're still kind of having your cake and eating it). 'Pretentious' is such an over-used and abused word. Something mainstream has just as much chance of being 'pretentious' as something that is more 'out there'. Now, whether you think SW believes his works to be greater and more important and accomplished than they are, one can only go by one's gut. Personally, I think he's quite genuine when he comes out with this rather 'different' kind of music. But then I could be wrong.
I didn't find it boring at all
great film
It's an ok album
but to suggest its anywhere near the beauty and joyous sleaze of the first album is madness. It's like a cartoon version of that. The only reason it got such a free pass when it came out is because everyone thought that Butler was the one who could write a song and that it would be much worse than it was.
Pete Doherty sounds like a cat that's been converted into a vacuum cleaner
Fuck The Libertines......since when has mediocrity warranted so much praise.
Also
if Absolute bought it, I can't believe it would stay good. It might at first, but give it a year or two, management changes, money is lost, old promises are forgotten, and all of a sudden its XFM. Do I have to make clear to people that this is NOT a good thing?
Is it even possible to buy a part of the BBC?
I'm presuming that it is if this guy says so.
Are those really candidates for song titles?
Or just titles you've come up with for a laugh?
Archie Bronson Outfit need more love generally
to make the kind of bluesy rock they do sound great instead of tedious chugging pub rock takes some doing.
Oh good
I can set my watch now
In that pic
he looks like Bryan Ferry with a vacuum cleaner up his arse
I agree with Kevtheone
I didn't mind Coming Up at the time, but I think that's only because everyone was expecting it to be shit and it wasn't. But listened to it again recently and have to say, did not think much of it. By The Sea is the only song worthy of Butler-era Suede. Beautiful Ones and Trash are ok...but the rest.......especially Starcrazy, which is dire. I didn't even bother with Head Music and the one after that everyone forgets about. But for a short time, 92-94, they were the best band in the world. The proof is not just in the two albums, but in the 16 amazing b-sides...that's like 2 extra albums on its own. Oh, and of course there was Stay Together.
Any chance of reviewing the Gyratory System album in your amnesty
It was out late 2009 on Angular Records and is quite splendid and unique sounding record. It's called The Sound Board Breathes.
Any chance of reviewing the Gyratory System album in your amnesty
was out late 2009 on Angular Records and is quite splendid and unique sounding record. It's called The Sound Board Breathes.
They're certainly no Curved Air
that's for damned sure.
It's just a shame
that it's being released too late to get a possible Mercury nomination.
The thing is
they haven't just banged out a load of great songs but they've also really thought about their SOUND for this album.
Just nearing the end of Bad Vibes
and it's fucking hilarious. And After Murder Park is one the best albums ever made......
I think the title
purposely sounds cash-in...and why shouldn't he? Auteurs were never as big as they should have been and Haines has bills to pay like any of us. People I know who have read says it great.
After Murder Park is the best
a classic. Followed by Cowboy, then New Wave. I think they started to lose it a little with Bootboys.
Oh Johnny Foreigner
how the mighty have fallen......hohoho.
And beaten by Wild Beasts too.....good call.
I can't think of 8 at the moment
because I live several years behind everyone else. But here are three.
1) Wild Beasts - Limbo Panto
2) One More Grain - Isle Of Grain
3) Cass McCombs - Dropping The Writ
Why no comments here?
A disgrace. Well, I love Robert Wyatt (in a purely platonic way mind) and think that he should takeover DiS for a week.
Why is there a week of articles on Kaiser Chiefs?
Is it because the majority of DiS readers are fans? I doubt it...I'm sure most people come here for an alternative to such mainstream tripe.
Is it because they need the exposure? Nope
Is it because DiS really need those hits? Could be. Are things really that bad?
Interesting read
though I'd like to hear from a musician with an opposite view for a bit of balance.
Van Der Graaf Generator
should be all knighted and Peter Hammill should be made head of a newly constructed round table and lead us into battle against the forces of evil, singing victorious songs as he does so........yes.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
what utter bollocks.
Didn't know
so many fifteen year olds read DiS.....
And mine was in response to moderaterock
NOT you. Damn this thread system
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
making such sweeping generalisations must feel nice
My mistake
but in my defence, I don't call Pitchfork "P4k", so I can't be all bad.
I like the way
Pitchfork stubbornly refuse to mention DiS in their news item on this tour despite creaming themselves over the bill. Ahhh, nowt like a bit of professional rivalry.
A 'get out of jail' card for Dexys Midnight Rumble Strips
that's prolonged their career for at least another album.
I was front right
next to me were these two girls just chatting throughtout the set. Very annoying. And I saw others chatting away. There were lots of people into it as well. Disappointing that it didn't seem to be full. By rights this band should be on front of NME but we know thats not going to happen.
Great gig
but why so many posing fucks talking through it. Not that I could hear it but when you stand right near the front where the band can see you and talk, it's just disrespectful. If I was in the band I would have told them to fuck off.
Many bands from 60s
disagree with you
Yep
you bet
Seriously
I don't think I've seen such a quick and vicious backlash for quite some time as the one against Black Kids. I'm not particularly a fan. Not heard the album. Didn't mind the singles. But it seems like just a few weeks ago that they were the apparent bees knees.
Great song, great album, great band
I'm going to enjoy watching them fail to be nominated for a Mercury tomorrow. But thats ok. It saves them having to be interviewed by Jo Whiley.
£70-90 was referring to Tom Waits
though to be more accurate, I should have said £75-95
Oh well
a quick bite at The Ivy, the Opera and then early to bed for me its seems.
Well, creme de la creme is a subjective thing
if you were to base it on record sales, which you shouldn't, they're probably not. And it wouldn't hurt to take into account how much people actually earn. A litle reality wouldn't hurt. What people are paying for, in Tom Waits case, is the fact that he doesn't play very much. But that's his problem, not ours. In Leonard Cohen's case its because he doesn't play much but also because he got fleeced out of money. Again, not our problem. Of course they can charge what they want because they know people, despite perhaps not being happy, will still go because of their adoration.
I know no one is forced to pay
and go. I wanted to see Leonard Cohen but couldn't afford it. But I still think that its taking advantage of a situation in a very cold, business-like way. You expect guys in suits to try and take you for everything they can get but not people like Tom Waits. There's nothing wrong with people wanting to make money but it's a little sad when it goes this far.
The supply and demand dynamic is one thing
but it does show total disregard for your fans, the people who put you where you are in the first place. Charging so much just because you now you will still sell tickets is a bit cold. I'm not saying they shouldn't make money but £70-90 is obscene. I can see definite tension ahead. Gig tickets are only going to get more expensive, not only because artists don't get the money from record sales they once did but because these artists see their tickets being sold for several times the face value on Ebay. Thus, expectedly, they figure they want in on some of this money. But this is going to clash with the world economic downturn we're currently in I think. Be interesting to see what happens.
Should I be embarassed
that I've never even heard of Chris T-T?
God bless
Drag City
I've always thought the opposite
I think Emmy the Great is impressive live but on record sounds quite ordinary.
Wild Beasts
but not Johnny Foreigner. My faith in DiS is restored.

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Sometimes I'm happy not to get my round something. Sometimes fighting it is the worst thing.
I'm not saying it's mandatory that you like Bish Bosch. As I wrote above, I have reservations about it. Just some suggestions.