Badger_Dan
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Yeah,
but Dylan & R.E.M. had talent ;-p
Seriously though, it means Domino will get loads of money to spend on artists I might like, so good on 'em.
You can't expect anyone to take you seriously
when you use the words "end of" three times in your argument. If you truly believed your own statement you'd have stopped 6 words in. And you wouldn't reply to this post. So I'd win.
End of.
Cat Power?!?!
I know it's only the Brits, but... Wow!
You make some good points
and I actually don't care enough about this to argue.
I still don't particularly approve of the word, but hey, if it keeps him off the streets...
Please stop calling people morons...
...That's both of you, by the way. And shawn876, I do respect you for not taking this story at face value, and for pointing out why exactly it's in the headlines at the moment. But I still think you're wrong.
You ask why the term "mutt" is offensive. Well, in and of itself, perhaps it's not. But then again, neither is "nigger". The issue here is with labelling people. Now, I'm not of mixed-race (or whatever the actual PC-term-of-the-day is), so I'm not going to claim something patronising like "mixed-race people don't like being called mutts". But I *am* going to say that *I* would be offended if someone invented a word X (with or without derogatory connotations) to describe my racial background, and then said something like "Awww, aren't all these X people so cute". It doesn't matter that what someone has said is "positive", the implication is that the *only* thing mixed-race girls have going for them is that they're quite attractive.
An earlier post in this thread said that, if anything, Kanye was calling mixed-races *superior*. I would argue that there is no such thing as positive discrimination, and that as soon as you start identifying people by their race then it doesn't matter whether you use the term "mutt", "mixed-race" or anything else - you're still reducing a person down to one characteristic, and ultimately to one stereotype.
Consider those remarks the other day about women "still being able to rock a crowd whilst wearing stilettos". Now, that sentence uses no "offensive" words as far as I can see. Also, wearing stilettos is (I believe) rather difficult, so to say that a woman can rock a crowd "like a man" whilst simultaneously doing something most men would find difficult is surely a compliment?
I think not.
For a minute there I was gonna laugh
at that picture of Bree Timmins.
Then I clicked on the link to The Gossip, cos I've never heard of 'em.
Then I realised.
Seriously though, poor effort DiS. I only opened this article for a laugh, and this just isn't funny. At all. Well, maybe it might've been if I'd read any further down that list than no.5, so if you've cleverly snuck in, say, Optimus Prime at no.27 then I'm sorry. Otherwise I'm off to read that article with the rather promising headline about Oasis slagging someone off.
Word.
But you also missed
[ ] Irrelevant reference to John Peel, usually phrased to make it sound like the writer was his biggest fan when actually s/he only ever listened to the show once when the tv broke.
eeebleee were great, yes.
Then they split.
Then they put everything they ever recorded up *free* on their website.
I'm afraid I don't remember the address, but it shouldn't be too hard to find...
You
just made me smile.
Thankyou.
Who cares about the mark?
If you like any other Yo La record, you'll like this. If you don't like any other Yo La record, you should be strapped down and made to listen to this 'til your taste improves. ;-p
I'm interested in your Ramones comparison though, I'd personally thought "...Ronnie" sounded much earlier than that. Kinda Nuggetsy. Meh, either way it's ace.
Ah,
but which were better? S Club or Steps? Cos "5-6-7-8" was a choooon, but I still have "Reach" on my ipod and I don't care who knows it!
Still, I suppose the main point is that they both *own* the Kooks...
No....
...but it's still why she got a record deal. People don't have to know you have contacts before you become famous, so long as the contacts know...
That's irrelevant though
great music can be released on major labels. Crap music can be released on independents. "Indie" isn't a genre, unless it's defined to be "four white guys with guitars and back issues of the NME".
True about the public being pre-programmed though, that's the most depressing thing about the rise of the Arctic Monkeys. For years we've been able to blame fat old A&R men for pushing dullards on us, then t'internet opens up every unsigned band for mass consumption and Joe Public *still* chooses to listen to a remake of Definitely Maybe.
*sighs*
Also, I think one leg's broken on Ms Allen's camera tripod...
Ooooh
I've only got a couple of the singles, may have to pick this up / load this down. Nice.
I lost my cornetto once
I found it the next day.
It wasn't pretty.
Snap!
Dunno if I'll even bother with the album, tbh.
Shame about the story though, someone already said it but this *does* seem to be happening rather a lot recently, no? Reckon there's a co-ordinated gang of thieves trying to form a band somewhere?
£300?? For a Jag?!
Where's this auction being held, Scotland?!
Though, I guess it would go for more if any of his fans were old enough to drive...
Sod Grant
But if you give me Thom's address I will definitely go and tickle him...
eh?
This isn't on the EP...
Although, I do agree that the single release of I Spy is horrible horrible HORRIBLE compared to the EP version.
As is the title of this song, actually. You say this is gonna be the album title as well? Euuurgh. Much as I like Get Cape, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to download it - there's no way my last remaining semblance of street cred could stand up to going into a record shop and buying that monstrosity.
One can only hope you really meant that "Bye" at the end there
Close the door on your way out, would you? Cheers.
As for me, voting is done. But I'm not quite sure why you'd *want* to win that - nothing in any of the other categories fills me with anything other than boredom :-s
Meh.
Only 1500 copies? Not available over here?
Good, that means I can feel less guilty about downloading it! Plus, it means I can just get the AiH songs and not have to listen to CYHSY! :-)
Word.
Hmmm...
I actually don't think this thread's been as full of people complaining "their" band didn't win as you make out. Granted, there can be threads on this site where the egos come out to play, but (so far as I can see) here it has been limited only to a certain snobbery regarding M People. Even the article itself (great read btw, Mike) doesn't seem to be saying that the Monkeys "shouldn't" have won, rather that the writer was disappointed that they did.
Now, for the Mercury judges to have rejected an album simply for being popular would indeed have been wrong. Similarly, anyone who dislikes any music merely because it's popular is indeed a tosser. Personally, I myself haven't actually heard the winning album, but my abstention is based not on its success but rather on the fact that I've heard some of the songs and disliked them all (excepting Sugababes' admittedly ace cover of "...Dancefloor"). Nor have I heard a few of the other nominees. Therefore, I could not possibly say that the result was "wrong" and that MY favourite (which happens to be Isobel Campbell, btw) "should" have won. Actually, scratch that, even if I *had* heard them all I wouldn't be in a position to tell someone their choice was wrong.
But I *can* say that I share in Mike's disappointment. I don't begrudge the Monkeys their success, but I do feel more could have been achieved by awarding the prize to an act which has not already been rewarded in the way the Monkeys have. Here's hoping the award will encourage record sales of some of the other deserving acts nominated. Otherwise, I don't really care...
I've never had any alcohol confiscated going into any festival
so there :-p
Although, I could buy tickets to glasto, hawk 'em on ebay, and then probably be able to afford to do Truck, Bestival, Electric Picnic, Latitude, Green Man AND Dour next year. Now that'd be getting my moneys worth :-)
That's fine
...if you've got the money. I'm sure that even I would enjoy it if someone paid for me to go. But if I'm gonna fork out that much for a weekend, I'd rather go to one where I get my moneys worth and actually see some bands I like.
Worryingly, I can't quite tell whether you're joking about Reading or not... :-s
He's hired another 100 acres of land?
There's a rumour that this won't be used for another stage.
There's a rumour that this won't be used to increase the size of an existing stage, or to increase the camping area or facilites.
There's a rumour that the extra space will instead go on yet more stalls selling overpriced junk to drugged-up middle-class middle-aged city workers.
There's a rumour that the cost for this wonderful expansion will be passed on to the ticketbuyer with about 300% interest on top.
Nice one Mikey, you've outdone yourself yet again.
It is indeed! I love it.
But I can't believe the Monkeys are really the bookies faves!? Regardless of what I think of the music, I would just be really surprised if they won - I'd actually have put them second-to-bottom in the likeliness stakes, just ahead of Muse. Hmph, shows what I know! :-s
As for "controversy" over nationalities, well, people should've spoken out when Antony was nominated last year, not just waited 'til he'd won. And the same goes this year, I'd hate for Isobel to lose out just because she worked with an American.
Especially since Mark Lanegan could eat any of the Brits in that list for breakfast...
I was about to make that very same point!
That's surely a much more important (and interesting) story than "bunch of predictable artists win meaningless awards".
Sadly, neither that nor the existence of the ringtone award is actually all that surprising really. I simply can't wait for Fidel to die so we can all watch the US introduce its morals to yet another country desperate for freedom and equality...
If it was fun at the time
then that *is* reason enough. Let's stop the worthiness, shall we?
Not heard this, though, so I won't comment...
Hmmm...
He/they was/were great live. Really great, not just ordinarily "great". But the first record wasn't. I mean, it was alright, but kinda forgettable.
Should I bother with this one?
:-s
The only song I know by them
is called "Stars of Aviation are singing about the summer, but is it going to be sunny, Carole?"
Which probably tells you if you're going to like it or not.
I do.
I don't know why I bothered to read this article
but now that I have, can I ask what the "Spirit of Independence" award is for?
I mean, I have an unfair idea that it means "band we like that doesn't just sound exactly like every other band we've given an award to", but I wouldn't like to presume anything...
Oh, and well done MCR. Still never knowingly heard anything by you, but, y'know, you must be doing something right. Mustn't you?! :-s
Have BSS pulled out then?
Or does everyone on this site just suffer from taste deficit disorder? ;-p
Shockabolical?
Damn! I know you trademarked it, but surely we can work out some kind of royalty so that I can use that word as well? I love it!
I voted Spice Girls!
For once, I'm on the winning side :-)
Yes, it is a completely pointless poll, but it appeared on my homepgae and I was bored...
M&S do wine gums?!
Bloody hell. How much do they cost?
This is not just a wine gum, this is a 1961 Chateau Latour confiture...
Excuse me, did you actually read the damn thing?!
Ok, firstly, I haven't heard this album. Neither have I heard the first one. But that's irrelevant. You say this isn't a 5/10 record? That's fine by me, but that doesn't make this a bad review.
I actually read this review expecting a juvenile slating of a band for being too popular - y'know, the sort of 3-line "this is crap" 1/10 articles often aimed at these sort of acts. Instead - and again I hasten to add that I haven't actually heard the record myself - I found a well-written and, in my view, helpful review.
Consider the fact that the writer quite clearly likes Johnny Borrell's antics, rather than finding him irritating as many others do. Consider the positive references to the Razorlight back catalogue. If you need things to be more explicit, consider the whole third-from-last paragraph; did the words "this isn't a canning of Razorlight" skip your attention?! Far from being the work of a "so called critic" self-consciously bringing an overhyped star down, it seems to me that this was written by an ardent Razorlight fan who has been disappointed by his bands latest release.
I'm not saying you have to agree with the 5/10 verdict. In fact, I'm not saying it's *not* the best guitar album since Definitely Maybe - for some people it may well be. But please, don't label a whole community miserable bastards simply because they don't share your opinions.
Best. Headline. Ever.
Thankyou Mike, that's made my day! :-)
I also didn't have particularly high hopes
and I don't know why :-s
But methinks I shall be checking this out now. Well, I probably would have anyway, but y'know, now I'm looking forward to it...
How Strange, Innocence.
Those Who Tell The Truth Shall Die, Those Who Tell The Truth Shall Live Forever.
The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place.
The fourth album, surely?
Sorry... this *is* good news, and I'm grateful for The Rescue mp3s...
The Bangles' finest hour?
Going Down To Liverpool, surely?
Actually
this just made me listen to it again for the first time in a while. And I did quite like it.
Make of that what you will...
Agreed
I like The Knife, I like José Gonzalez, I like the cover of Heartbeats.
In contrast, I like The Postal Service, I like Iron & Wine, I don't like this.
Meh, it's probably just me...
If you thought they were superb...
..how can I disagree with that?
Though, I can say that *I* never thought they were superb. And that, Champagne Supernova aside, I can't think of a single Oasis song I have ever liked. But even I find that tracklisting just a little bizarre - I actually only read this article to see if they opened or closed with Live Forever! :-s
Meh, as you were...
Nice
Except the dates from Kendal onwards are November. Sadly, not even J Spaceman can play London & the Sage in the same evening...
I've managed to avoid all the headlines
so maybe that last sentence means I should listen to this.
Or maybe I should just switch the radio on and listen out for this 'ere single.
Though... hang on a sec... isn't Black Holes And Revelations the new Muse album? And I know The Eraser is Thom Yorke... forgive me for laughing bitterly at the thought of either of those "changing my life"!
Well you're really asking two questions there
The first one takes me back to 1934. Admiral Burn had just reached the pole, only hours ahead of the Three Stooges...

In Photos: White Lies @ Brixton Academy, London
In Photos: Monotonix @ Hector's House, Brighton
In Photos: The Specials @ Hammersmith Apollo, London
In Photos: Camden Crawl Launch Event @ The Blues Kitchen, London
Seriously,
what??
I travelled down from Nottingham for this, and some of the friends I was with had come from places as far as Hull and north Wales, and I don't think any of us have any real complaints. Well, ok, there *should* have been more toilets, but I personally didn't have to queue once. Just lucky? Maybe. But I didn't ever have to queue for longer than about 2 minutes to get food either.
I accept some of the criticisms - vegan/veggie food was certainly lacking, the Home Fires stage was far too low, the queue at the bar was ridiculous and there seemed to be no information regarding the band tugs o' war - but abject misery?? I had a great day!
I also didn't see anyone all day who looked like they really weren't enjoying themselves. Judging by these responses it seems I might be in a minority, and I'm not going to speak for anyone I don't know, but just to answer the guy who said he didn't know anyone who'd come back happy, well, I can give you the names of eight perfectly satisfied punters. Were we the only 8 of 10,000? Who knows...