Missy Elliott
We Run This

she's done some really good stuff....... just not this.

"I'm sure she's done better stuff than this somewhere along the line. I remember a song with Mel B that was passable and had a cool Tron-looking video"

research! come on. can a dis writer with some knowledge please re-review this record. thanks.

i don't know what's gotten into dis recently....

i used to love this site.

the song is a grower.... it's isn't her best by any means, but it's still better than most of the top 40.

this is good. Also without meaning to be rude, that's an absolutely lousy review.

FACT.

So I reviewed it. I don't pretend to know a lot about commercial hip-hop, but that is no reason at all why my opinion on it as a piece of music, and my comments on Missy as a cultural reference point, should be invalid.

I guess this is territory that has been trodden to death many a time on DiS....but it just doesn't make much sense to me to hand someone a CD who clearly has absolutely no interest in this type of music. I am a shit reviewer, all cliches and bad imagery....but I reckon I could convey a better impression about the relative merits of this song within the genre than you have, John.

I am not calling into question you're overall ability as a reviewer, and generally neither are the other people, but surely it's not out or order to comment, or review a review, is it?

My review in short, for those that care....

"Using Apache is lazy, especially for someone that has rapped over some undoubtedly awesome beats (from Timbaland et al) in the past....but overall I like the song. If you like Missy's flow, then give this a listen. This is by now means Missy at her best, but even at 50% she can knock out a record that is more than worth a few minutes of your time."

it's 6th form stuff sure. but hey, there's a reason i'm not on the DiS books, eh?

My main issue though really is, it would be nice to see even the slightest nod towards an enthusiastic and knowledgeable hip-hop reviewer. diversification is not such a bad thing.

as you gave him this to review I'm not surprised you think it's for justified reasons....

I guess if everyone who reads DiS is, like John as cluseless about Missy as he is then it's a great review.

...but I just felt a little let down by it, thats all. I clicked the link hoping to read what someone who considered themselves a hip hop fan had to say about it....and i think thats what others who are complaining hoped for too.

In all fairness it's a testament to how unsure I am about the quality of this record that I was so dependent on a balanced review to give me some perspective...but with John's review it has no relevance to my musical taste at all. At the moment I have almost had this song on repeat, but I do admit that it could be consdered a slightly guilty pleasure.

...as to the complaints: i guess you can't please all the people all of the time, eh?

Though I do ask that any reasonably constructed criticism of a review is taken with good grace...as hard as it may be to stomach.

that entry in my profile is a joke. it really couldn't be more obvious.

seriously.

I thought it was crushingly self-evident why it was a bad review. But if you insist: It is a terrible review because it takes absolutely no interest in the artist or the music, and it's clear that John Fake Surname has no taste for, or knowledge about Missy Elliott. Or I assume, hip hop in general.

Do you see?

It's like if I reviewed the Mastodon album and said "Maybe Mastodon are just a crappy metal band who exist solely so that indie fans can pretend they're eclectic. I dunno, I've never heard of them."

John, would you be annoyed if a hip-hop expert without a major interest in electronica gave a Junkplanet single a bad review?