Oceansize
New Pin

this is my least favourite song off EIP, superfluous is however a brilliant song and worth buying the single just for that song.
It's also worth noting that the video for this was done independently because like was said, beggars seem to be a bit shit at marketing, ie you go to buy the single at the shops on the day it comes out, but every shop you go to is still waiting for a delivery.

First of all I severely doubt oceansize would choose to release singles. But they have to so they're going to release the most accessable songs.

New Pin is the catchiest song on the album. Plus it has way more chance of radio/mtv action than any other track.

have you heard the album? dont you think the two tracks i mentioned would be more suitable for a single release? Maybe they are too heavy in parts to be classed as 'accessible' but they are by far superior songs (usually i would say this is down to opinion but i think i can say its near enough a fact) and would get a lot more fans interested.

also, maybe yr right about them not wanting to release singles. but if they had to, why would they be bothered about choosing the most accessible?

Jordan*

im not seeing how you can class New Pin as one of the best tracks, or reason it not being the worst, but i agree with you on Ornament/Last Wrongs.

and i know you were saying Dom was talking a load of bollocks, but thats a given. Its just that with yr first two sentences you were contradicting yrself basically. but hey, its better to have an opinion and be wrong than not have one at all :)

have you managed to catch them live?

Jordan*

about ornament/ the last wrongs.

this song is easily a grower though. like the whole album. It ain't got the balls against the walls feel that we came to expect from the 'size, but it still blows you away after a few listens.
and they KICK it live. two microphones!!!

I've caught them live many many times.

I don't see my contradiction though. Nor do I understand why my opinion is wrong on the basis that you think otherwise!

I was just presenting the case of the average oceansize fan.

But anyway lets just agree that 'Superfluous to Requirements' is fucking amazing and that Dom was most likely dropped head first at birth.

is judging by Oceansize's subsequent record sales messrs Jordan and Drill, there must have been a lot of us dropped head first at birth.

has being a decent band got to do with how many records they sell?

Go back to watching hollyoaks, it's obviously more on your level

with "no staying power whatsoever", Muse have done pretty well for themselves, do you not think?

As for Oceansize, I've never eaten beef or any kind of meat with them for that matter.

is really frustrating; their debut made it fucking obvious how much talent and creative capability they've got, and music for nurses proved they were capable of pushing it forward and moulding it into something up-to-date and challenging. and since then... they seem to have fallen off the horse somewhat. new pin is COMPLETELY forgettable, and pretty much an insult to what they've shown they're capable of, and last time i saw them their live show didn't fare much better. seems like they've lost their way, i wish they'd hurry up and find it again.

Jordan*

ps- they were great live last night.

a) You can't "lose" arguments on matters of taste.
b) Judging quality by record sales is simply laughable. By that argument the best music in the world comes from the likes of the Backstreet Boys.
c) Dropped head first at birth sounds likely.

..is a joke. I've been on this site for little more than a few weeks now, and at first I found his dismissal of Biffy Clyro as a "bad Nirvana tribute act" pretty funny..mainly because he was so off the mark.

Subsequently I took it upon myself to dig up some dirt about this fellow, L.Ron Hubbard style, I didn't have to go very far before I found this.