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The Vines: Winning Days
Here we have one such rare example of a band who, on a musical level at least, really deserve said backlash. Nothing personal, chappies, your ‘Highly Evolved’ record was rather fine and ‘Get Free’ an adrenaline-pumped, blister-poppingly fantastic single. It’s just that album number two – like that infamous fish dish on Happy Days – is not so great. It’s sad but true: nothing matches either the gritty buzz-pop highs or the dreamy drugged-out booziness of the slower material on their debut. Neither does it offer any relief from these two blueprints.
Ultimately, ‘Winning Days’ is an highly frustrating listen. Moments of brilliance do surface through the murk – the dreamy title track, for instance, is excellent until a dismal guitar solo destroys the atmosphere like a particularly pollutant Russian power station. Similarly, the Sleepy Jackson-esque chorus of ‘Sun Child’ is California-huggingly blissful, yet the woefully underwritten verse nearly ruins it all. In contrast, all the rockier numbers are uniformly shite. You’ll no doubt have already heard the passable ‘Ride’, but even the detatchedness of Craig Nicholls’ vocals on that won’t prepare you for the sheer level of apathy present on the god-awful ‘TV Pro’ and ‘Evil Town’.
In his desperation to get all his songs down on tape, Nicholls has shot himself squarely in the foot. Even the songs that do work sound under-developed, while someone really needed to step in and veto substandard pieces like ‘Autumn Shade II’ to b-side territory. On a record that clocks in at under 39 minutes, the quantity of filler here is simply unforgivable. Equally, Rob Schnapf’s frequently unremarkable production only adds to the feeling that ‘Winning Days’ is a dangerously premature baby, with barely the strength for breath in its inadequate lungs.
From here, The Vines will go one of two ways. Either Nicholls will throw a big strop with the media and spend the rest of his career tossing out similarly substandard albums with gradually diminishing returns a la The Cranberries, or he will take some time out to lick his wounds and come back in two years with the magnificent third album that he is so obviously capable of creating. Here’s hoping he’ll choose the latter.
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There's two things that The Vines need to realise -1)They will NEVER, EVER be as good or as influential as Nirvana, so they might as well stop nicking all of the Riffs from Nevermind - 2) Aping the Beatles has been done before, and is nothing new -
A great shame they've swan-dived - thought they were ace at Glasto a couple of years back -
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Why does everyone say the Vibes try and rip off Nirvana? Youre so utterly wrong.
THe only band they rip off is The Beatles, and not very well at that - The Vines really dont have much going for them at all.-
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not that i care for this band , but who are you Mr Edwards to coment on what constitues a good guitar solo? Are you a professional musicain? Or do you mean that its not good because it did not do what you expected? Please elucidate. Thank you. -
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Simple riffs leading to fuzzy choruses and incoherent vocals - sounds pretty much like Nevermind to me -if you disagree, fine, i can live with that
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I really want to read just one good review of this as an excuse to buy it, because I liked 'Highly Evolved' a lot. But sadly, it sounds like the general dickheadedness that infiltrates 90% of their live shows and 99.9% of their interviews has made its way into their music. A shame. I do like 'Ride' though... I'm going to find a listening post when it's released, just in case I find something in it that no-one else does... but it isn't looking hopeful.
One thing though, I don't think the Nirvana comparisons are helpful. I don't see the similarity at all. -
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i think most guitar solos suck, so maybe i'm biased but i seriously doubt craig nicholls could write one that added something other than time to a song.-
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Man, I was hopeful that The Vines would succeed as Nicholls seemed the leat contrived of IPCs "new rock revolution" but this album just sounds like a half-arsed collection of previously rejected demos - which is what 3/4 of it basically is - so I fear their presence in the anals of those who'll be forgotten about before their christening has already been cemented.
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oh come on, it's not THAT bad...It's not very good at all, but it's not so bad that i had to turn it off screaming for help... -
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to mooseman:
even more interesting when you consider that
a) nirvana weren't even very good
b) neither are the vines
c) half the riffs on nevermind were ripped off of the pixies anyway, who were actually good...-
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‘Winning Days’ is a dangerously premature baby, with barely the strength for breath in its inadequate lungs.
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perhaps, i need to get my ears checked. .. but for some weird reasons, this new vines' album reminds me of "KulaShaker", especially the track "tv Pro".
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i find these songs underwritten in parts too.
which is odd considering he's had plenty of time...
...these are leftover tracks from pre-Highly Evolved. Most are pre-2001.
the only really new song was "give up, give out.." which landed itself a crappy spot on the back of the ride single. great song. better than anything on the album. probably cause schapf didn't record it.
i'd give Winning Days a 5/10. -
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The problem with the vines is not that they copy Nirvana, its that they arent very good, and never have been.-
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The Vines take so much unnecessary crap. Saying they only sound like The Beatles and Nirvana is shamefully lazy. Not to say they don't take quite a lot from both those groups - they blatantly do - but I'm inclined to think that a major reason for calling them shit is that's become immensely fashionable to do so...
That said, having heard the album all the way through now, it is pretty damn rubbish. I'd still have pushed it up a half-mark from 2.5/5, but you're right - "Sun Child" and "Winning Days" are about the best that's on offer. Shame. -
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what i have to say is this, the vines had one complete and utter stormer of a single, namely get free, then they seemed to fade into the mist made up of shitty bands, if only they could have made this album as good as HE, that would have been sweet...
nirvana are class man! they are one of the bands of the 1900's! -
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Named after a Cure album AND completely right about The Vines, this guy has all the luck.
Will Australia EVER contribute something wholly decent to music?-
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"Will Australia EVER contribute something wholly decent to music?" You ever heard of Silverchair m8?-
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Mwahahahahahaha... etc.
Still, Midnight Oil, though.-
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they gave me nightmares... burning beds? Jesus...
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"Will Australia EVER contribute something wholly decent to music?"
hmmm... what a lame comment. there's heaps of great australian music... you just have to find it, rather than wait for another over hyped magazine band. stop talking shite. -
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Here we go again! Look here whatever your name is, Nirvana admitted they ripped off the pixies! big deal, it was an ironic utterance anyway. but at least they gave that dynamic their own personal spin. which is more that can be said for those obnoxious fuckers the swines! they are without doubt the most transparent and shallow musical entity of recent years. christ i hate them. nirvana represent creative fecundity while those awful, annoying chancers stand for perennial creative block. that craig yoke just plays the fool on stage badly. they represent everything that is wrong with music nowadays. shallow poseurs! craig mad? hardly! he aspires to be a spastic! -
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silverchair, Frenzhal Rhomb. And if you think they suck, you can fuck right off. -
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Te Cat Empire are from Australia and their album is arguably the best released this year. -
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man, are you narrow-minded or what? the vines are a great band because they know how to express emotions so acutely, and that's what music is all about. Obviously, you don't know a whole heck of a lot about music, because your misinformed article focuses on the "quality" of guitar solos and who the vines sound like. You think no one ever sounded like nirvana before they became popular? think again, moron. the vines have to put up with so much crap, so many people who don't realise what a good band they are, because music newbies like you are obsessing about wether or not the vines don't sound like anyone that ever played music. think again, because, last time i checked, you don't know anything about music.-
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Hahaha, stop it Brainlove, you're killing me.
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The Vines will back with a vengeance, mark my words.-
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horrible horrible horrible horrible HORRIBLE.
xxx
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Great album. It shows Nicholls has another side to his writing, not just an album of Get Free's.-
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Got slated pretty much but with further listens the album's quality shines through and Craig Nicholls shows hes not a Nirvana copyist with a diverse range of styles.
The album can be picked up on the cheap in most music shops (due to it not selling brilliantly) and is well worth a listen.-
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This is an excellent album. The alternation between songs are brilliant, and Nicholls really shows his versatility in his song writing.
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I really don't understand why people slated this album and to be honest I still cannot see the Nirvana rip off or The Beatles. They are just pure garage rock witha tad of psychedelia, and if there is one band that they sound like, then it has to be Muse, the track TV Pro is a spitting sonic image of Muse towards the end of the song. This album, although as not as striking as the first one does have some glorious moments and after a few listens the quality does indeed shine through.
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Like Raz said,
i never really understood the Nirvana/Beatles comparisons, it seems waaaaay too good for them.
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