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This week is another exciting and important one in the history of the music we believe in. As it stands, Bloc Party’s debut album ‘Silent Alarm’ is about to go top 5, nay, top 3 in the album chart proper. And yeah, it’s had great press and great support from radio and TV. Of course this is all very exciting and we believe, deserved. But what COULD happen now is even more exciting.

A potential number 1 album from a bunch of ethical and artsy outsiders isn’t meant to be allowed to hi-jack the British mainstream, let alone take on the world. Great albums and great artists are meant to be loved but never championed. Cherished solely by those with great taste and knowing smiles. But what a number one album does in the right hands is potentially incredible.

But what’s more important is that Bloc Party have done this not through corporate lucre, but through shared belief. They’ve bucked the insular short-termist problems of the music industry and instead relied on and worked with the ballsy early chance-takers; those believers in their own ears, the likes of Steve Lamacq and David and Will (it really doesn’t matter that you don’t know those names – they probably prefer it that way) from Mtv2 went that bit further, pushed that bit harder, put their necks and reps on the line, and took a chance on a band who weren’t a sure thing and 12 months ago really weren’t seen as the ‘saviours’ of whatever need saving.

A (possible) number 1 album from Bloc Party signals a time of new precedents and establishing new conventions. What’s needed now is less hype breeding hype, and more people taking risks on the music they love, giving the great and the good the chance to succeed without the need for high singles chart positions before a band is even listened to by the gate keepers of the mainstream, those demi-arbiters of taste, who trust facts and money more than their ears.

The conglomerations no longer hold all the power. Like Franz, it’s about proving you can do it on an independent IF YOU WANT TO; you can do it through hard graft and you don’t need to compromise your soul’n’integrity to do it.

We’re really not indie-facist major-haters. We just think that a band like Bloc Party, where they are and what they stand for, are just, well… more important than most. If you think we’re wrong, that’s fine. Without going too mumbo jumbo, Bloc Party are the first real post-Radiohead, post Millennial band; one that distils a lot of the fantastic ideas, thoughts and beliefs that have been swimming around us in the past half-decade, but maybe not quite nailed down by any one act. This is here for posterity.

Currently sitting above BP are the Scissor Sisters and Keane. Why? The Brit Awards. All over TV and the radio and the red top press. They’ve had their moment in the sun (no pun intended), they’ve each sat atop the charts for weeks on end– in fact they were the biggest selling two records in the UK last year. Why do they deserve more hype, more press and more sales? What does it achieve? A bit more money for someone. That’s all. They’re big enough already. What would a no.1 ‘Silent Alarm’ achieve? A 1,000,000 more important things. A victory for a way of thinking and acting and supporting your bands.

So all we’re basically saying is this; buy this album this week; not next week if you were planning it. Buy yourself 40 less fags this week, two less double jack n cokes in an expensive bar somewhere. Borrow the money from your mum, wash your neighbour’s car (and for a tenner, better give it a rub dry and hoover the insides). You clearly love music, and if you’ve got this far (god bless you) then you must like Bloc Party. You’ve downloaded the record two months ago? No bother, just prove how much you like it by buying it. They deserve that.

Buy this album and do something for the greater good.

Point over. Thank you for reading, and feel free to send this to someone else…

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*wishes didnt always have holes in pockets*

*goes to rob little brother*

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Agreed, if you downloaded it, and liked it, you must buy it now!

Its only 8.99 or something on amazon!

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If I remember correctly, the last time DiS did one of these - for that horrible Darkness Christmas single - the arguments got pretty ugly.

I have a feeling we could be in for round two here - prepare to watch that scrollbar shrink! :)

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greatest Brittish album since 'Urban Hymns' - worth every single shiny penny, and then some

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there's been reviews where people have complained that there's a lack of tunes on this album. But I guess those reviewers listen to Coldplay.

This year's been ace for albums so far..

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Is it alright if I just buy music I like, without getting political? If so, someone else can have my copy

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I prefer to buy albums based on their quality rather than "because they're indie".

Bloc Party just aren't that great.. little thoughts was good, but the singles that followed have been pretty bland and forgettable in my opinon.

Buying sub-standard music wont solve anything, no matter what label is putting it out.

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i have downloaded it, and yes i am going to buy it.
but i'm not buying it 'til next week, when i can go into town and buy this and the new doves album at the same time...no point making unnecessary effort. a no.1 silent alarm will achieve bugger all, not since radio 1 appointed them as their new we'll-say-we-supported-them-from-the-beginning-but-in-reality-we-never-heard-of-them-til-so-here-we-are band.

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i listen to Coldplay and Bloc Party.
i think Parachutes is the most important and one of the best albums of this decade so far. Silent Alarm also easily slots into the top 5 on both counts. please don't use Bloc Party's success as an excuse to slag off Coldplay

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I bought it a couple of days ago (I don't like downloading records, except maybe the odd track or two to see if its something I'd like to buy).

It is a great album - a little different to what I was expecting, not as 'straightforward'.

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I bought it a couple of days ago (I don't like downloading records, except maybe the odd track or two to see if its something I'd like to buy).

It is a great album - a little different to what I was expecting, not as 'straightforward'.

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What sanctimonious pap.
They're just a fucking indie band.
And an indie band with a singer who can't sing.

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Sorry, did we forget to say we think the album is great?

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Please don't use Bloc Party's success as an excuse to slag off Coldplay.

Absolutely.

Why should anyone have to excuse something that is morally right?

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No the last time we did it was when Biffy nearly went from getting no press and radio to nearly going into the top 10 based solely on fabase stuff..

The Emperor's New Clothes

OR 10 years from now no-one may remember who Bloc Party were, along with The Futureheads. Franz may be remembered if they are lucky. Some people have totally lost all focus on this particular trend. I like Bloc Party *a lot*, pay to watch them live, have the album etc but I still doubt whether they will stand up to the test of time. I'd be chuffed for them if they do - but it won't be on their current material if that is to be the case. There are a lot of UK bands with much better Tunes than BP, Jetplane Landing being infinitely better in my opinion. And being in such a glaring spotlight with the world kissing their arse isn't going to really push them to be creative now is it? Comfort does not breed creativity. I hope when the hype dies down and a new trend appears that they can deliver THEN when it really matters. Their album going to no.1 now would not count for as much because it's TRENDY to buy their record at this point in time. And as Papa Roach will testify, kids can be cruel :)

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Never let it be said that we're not sanctimonious... come on, are all your favourite bands perfect-voiced, Bob? Personally, I love the man's throat...
x

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Fucking shit album. Fucking shit band. 'nuff said.

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What are you talking about???

Put Kele's vocal track into a pitch monitor and you'll see he's bang on pitch pretty much all of the time. So you are incorrect.

If you're saying you don't LIKE his voice, that's another matter - I just wish you'd express yourself properly.

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Sure buy the Bloc Party album if you like but dont forget to pick up the new Mars Volta one while your at it.

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While I appreciate the indie chestbeating of this piece, I'm finding it unlikely that it'll persuade more than two punters to shuffle down to HMV and hand over their £14.99.

Still, two fingers to the man, eh?

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i downloaded the album a few months ago, liked it, and bought it on monday morning. not to mention waking up early to get wristbands and such. saw them at the barfly last night and it was a great gig, and the band are very kind and considerate and down to earth and nice people. who make music i like. as for a "singer who cant sing" well im not sure what to say to that. i think he can sing quite well. and i think its a great album.

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I've actually been thinking a few of these things. Got the album monday, and its exceeded my expectations. they have lived up to the hype, however i feel that bloc party can maintain the credibility and cult status attached to bands such as radiohead, doves, and elbow as long as places like radio 1 dont overplay the singles, or the songs are over - extensively used on tv ads and shows (basically what has happened to franz, who i still maintain are a good band, but i got a little bored of hearing them too quickly). It would be great to see this album outsell keane and the scissor sisters, and alongside franz ferdinand/domino, it would be awesome to see another truly independent act such as the party bring wichita (and v2, who are still a largely credible label, look at the freedom they give to bands such as elbow) great success!!

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Emails telling people to buy a record simply because it's rebellious to do so and raises two fingers to the corporate world, only mentioning the quality of the album as a sideline... not cool. In the past, the album review would have been the major advert to a good record, not some virtual begging note. Why not try and let the music stand on its own and represent itself? And if you're trying to get this album to Number One and usurp the mainstream pigs, why not advertise the record's virtues to people who don't read this site or have any knowledge of them? Getting a bunch of indie music fans to buy an album isn't exactly changing much, the sales go up for one week, down the next and the album slides out of view.

*goes back to sandwich*

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Hmm, fairly independent they may be but V2 are almost the worst culprits around for rereleasing albums (Mercury Rev, last two Grandaddy, both Elbow, last two Stereophonics) which is about as irritating and cash-grabbing as you can get.

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have only heard the single, music sounds great, but what the hell is he singing about?

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Is this all because they thanked you by name on the inside sleeve... hmmm?

Its a bit of an embarassing article, but I've already bought the album.

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I was trying to resist the temptation to say that!

I don't seriously believe that it is at all though, before anyone gets angry.

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There have been plenty of decent albums since 'Urban Hymns', and there were better British albums in the same year (chiefly 'OK Computer' and Blur's self-titled effort).

*orders, hoping no one bought it for his birthday*

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I downloaded it from Napster a couple of days ago.

Overall it's pretty good but not great. Maybe it'll grow on me after a couple of weeks.

Luno and Like Eating Glass are the 2 best non-singles imo.

I've always liked Banquet though.

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i bought the album on tuesday, it took a couple of listens to get into at first and i didn't think the hype was justified but i fucking love it now!
very good article, and they do deserve a number 1 album and it would do a lot of good things for british music. the only bad thing is that it would make that kat deeleys new favourite band...

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I agree.

But I think the assumption here is that almost everyone will have already heard the album. And that we all know whether we like it or not. It's a rallying cry for indie that's needed. A realisation that one of our bands can be huge. And that means us showing our support buy buying it; if we like what we downloaded.

I just can't buy into it.

I appreciate that we should support an indie band and everything. But it's all passed me by. I get this feeling that it's a London band, who had lots of indie scene hype, but weren't really understood by (and didnt try to be launched to) anyone outside london. Then it came to the right point in their phased marketing, and they're everywhere. That's fine. I love that "indie is back", and I've just come around to Bloc Party's music. But I'm not part of it. This isn't like it was with Franz Ferdinand a year ago.

I do like quite a lot of this NWONWONW scene, but it just seems so remote. Toronto and Portland both feel closer than London.

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All the pokes at 'pop' music, all the contradictions, all the moaning and bollocks, and now you're trying to get me to buy some album I've never even heard so that it gets to 'number one', wherever and whatever that means.

I'd love to make a huge list of points about why this article is completely flawed, but I'm dying for a shit.

For every person that posts 'OKAY! I'LL BUY IT!', I'm going to buy 2 copies of Keane and Scissor Sisters. Must dash. Touching cloth. Really.

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they are wank. and i dont think i need 500 wanks to say it.

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I completely agree that it's very important to support bands who have fought their way to fame.

The problem is, those bands should also not be grey, poseuriffic, have the worst drumming since the Kings of Leon, and have the same riff repeated FOREVER UNTIL IT NUMBS THE COCKLES OF YOUR HEART.

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This article is impossibly embarassing. Hope you feel ashamed of yourself one day, Sean.
But a few points i'd like to raise

1) why will a bloc party number one "change" anything" you say it will "set new precedents" but that's just a meaningless sloganistic assertion. Try making some simple statements

2) We need less hype ?! That criticises itself ...

3) All this nonsense about being "post-Radiohead" (hahaha) implies that Bloc Party are progessive. Which is utterly false. Like most DiS type bands that made a breakthrough in 2004, they are utterly regressive and backward looking. Not that that is necessarily a bad thing - but, y'know, you are lying.

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oh, and i side with the person slightly further up the board. For every person who says they will buy the bloc party album as a result of reading this article, i will buy the Keane album. at least that kid can sing a bit ...

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no it's not important. you should support bands you LIKE. Music is infinitely more simple than DiS people are willing to admit.

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got a habit of talking up fucking wank then, don't you ?

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Was there actually a point behind that article? However Indie they may be they've still got the same team of tastemakers & Hype-squad that Franz, Kaisers, The Coral (remember them?) and the like have had behind them. It's mot a blow for the kidz out there doing this, its another affirmation that the British Indie Scene is a very managed, unspontaneous, soul-less thing, If it weren't, would there be half as much posturing put forward to try & prove evidence to the contrary?

I love Bloc Party... But i dunno, they seem over-exposed already. I mean of all the bands I've heard this year, granted they seem like the ones I can relate to the most (as people & with the whole ideas in their head) but theres somethign there that I don't like about it...

Hey, look on the bright side. I xan't think of band thats polarised opinion that much on this site in a while...

A Pointless Article

weymart's post is brilliant, he's just expressed what everyone is thinking succinctly and with inspired economy of language. What a legend.

Bloc Party are good and the album's good, but unfortunately Sean's article in my humble opinion smacks of propaganda. We don't need to be told like 5 year olds to go out and buy something. Sean, if you want us to go and listen to diverse, 'real' music, why do you so desperately want this band to be number 1 in the charts? I have now given up looking at charts because I find them irrelevant and stupid.

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Exactly : i don't like them, i will not buy their album.
Nobody should buy an album because of the hype or because it's supposedly good for indie music.
Good for Bloc Party if they get big.
Just hope some very good band like I Like Trains will get signed ang get as much exposure.

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aye, tis a pretty morsal of music, can we forget about that junkie whino who used to be in a good band now?

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Best of luck to them, but indie bands have been no.1 before, and people have predicted a resultant change in musical tatses before, and people have predicted an imminent change in the establishment before, but the establishment is stilll here, and mainstream music is still here, and the bands that get to No.1 are still mostly not indie. So don't get your hopes up because one album selling a largely arbitrary number of copies is not going to cause some huge groundshift in musical tastes. The mainstream has co-opted 'alternative' music before and it'll go on doing so long after Bloc Party stop making records.

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It's ok..but I'm with the new Bright Eyes album - it juist says so much more to me than Kele ever could. Looking forward to the new I Am Kloot release though - a bunch of grizzled northerners who need a hellofalot more exposure.

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Bloc Party = Ace.
This article = Not ace.

It really irks me the way DiS slags off some bands (Kasabian, Razorlight) who've made that jump into the big time, then sprouts all this bollocks about it being an event of epic proportions that Bloc Party might hit number 1.

It seems to me that you are telling people to buy this because you LIKE it, whereas you slag off other bands because you don't like them.

What is it NME does to annoy everyone again? Oh yeah, completely overhypes bands it likes.......etc. etc.

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they are OK (although the new single is incredibly dull) but yes I agree we don't need to be told what to buy. There are tons of better bands that justify people's money more than Bloc Party, who are also already doing perfectly well and are extremely hyped. If they make the Top 5 then I dont see it as a massive victory seeing as their music is fundamentally backwards-looking and safe. Yes, it is better than Keane and Kasabian but so are a load of things.

I was watching MTV2 (yes bad choice perhaps) the other day and it was just so incredibly depressing. One band after another that sound the same. Futureheads, BP, Maximo Park, the Departure... all so incredibly predictable and been done better in the past. I think music is very good at the moment if youre willing to dig below the surface but much of what passes for "alternative" at the moment is just awful.

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Who gives a toss about the charts anyway? And who cares what the populous listens to? Ah to hell with it .... let's buy an American import and help it up their chart as well, it's on Atlantic records. They're "indie" right!?

Yes, it's beautiful in music when you find something that you love and that other people don't, so why desire mass-acceptance of an artform to satisfy some personal vanity? Musical history? Absolutely not. It's simply a sad reflection of the power of marketing that dominates the music charts today, that such a minor event can EXcITe some people so.

Instead of spouting on about Bloc Party and squeezing a few more sales for the poor lads, why not spend the space and time shouting about ANOTHER band. Mmmh, maybe that'd be more 'punk' than 'indie' .... let me check my 'Rough Guide to Music' to see where those boundaries lie.

So I think your Franz, Kaisers, Keane et al are rubbish, but so what? I can respect the fact that they've done so well in being so darn average .... liking music isn't about 'right' and 'wrong', it's about personal preference surely?

... and Steve Lamacq's about as ballsy as my Nan (bless her).

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So from this whole thread all I got was a headache, especially thanks to Weymart. Everyone who likes BP will have already bought the album/listed it as a to buy. Therefore this just turns into another Are Bloc Party good or bad thread with massive bouts of repetetive slagging. It's become like the NME in the sense that the same artists/bands seem to be up for discussion all the time. For once, though I like BP I'm happy to say, Change the damn record!

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fuck this.

a whole feature section dedicated to buying one album? monopoly? why havent you just done a feature on independent releases if you're that bothered about it. who gives a fuck what label somethings on!!! this is the indie snobbery attitude again by even mentioning the fact its not on a major!!!

I now refuse to own this album. im losing total faith in you DIS.

i thought it took the piss every other advert was one for a band on your label, now this. nice one.

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didn't read the whole article but it hink i got the gist. Downloaded most of the album. Then bought the album. I like Bloc Party alot, and i'm enjoying Silent Alarm, but i can't see how it fits in as such an "important" album on it's own merits. It sounds really good on public transport and at bedtime (thats not a cuss), but i think they're going to be making a much better second album. It feels like they needed to get what happens on Silent Alarm out so they can leave it behind almost.
Whilst everyone is calling them the next big thing, i can't see them crossing over into Radio One/advert land/pub jukeboxes much, despite their obvious possession of talent and potential.

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i don't even know how to explain why, but no no no no NO, they really aren't. there are bands that i like more, but there's just...something special about them.

i hate po-faced indie, i hate sanctimonous fuckers who are so busy either preaching or snorting they forget to write any songs, i hate bands that are all style and no substance, and bands that are all brain and no heart. bloc party are real about what they're doing - and what they're doing is fucking beautiful.

and much as they seem to divide opinion, there's something different about the reactions to them - different to the excitement that surrounded franz ferdinand last year, and different to the excitement that surrounded every supposed breakthrough band in recent memory.

there's just something about them.

xxx

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Bloc PArty are an average indie band, overrated to fuck.

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And you gave the Vines 5/5...

Come back when you know what you're on about.

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it is obvious to me that Bloc Party are going to be massive, not just because of the very good music they currently do but the excellent music they promise to deliver in the future. many bands limit themselves to a certain approach and it works for a couple of albums (if they're lucky)... it's obvious that that is what, say, Keane will do and that has been the problem with many recent hypes, ie Strokes/ White Stripes... the jury's still out on Coldplay.

but i sense that Bloc Party will seek to push the boat out and we always need bands like that.

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£9.99 for the standard edition
£11.99 for the version with the bonus DVD

Pretty much universal retail prices, as far as I can see.

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implies that Bloc Party are progessive.

No it doesn't. What he means [at least, what I got from it!] is that, like Radiohead before them, they've captured the "spirit" of the times. OK Computer is an album completely informed by, written about-yet-utterly-disgusted-world the world of 1997. I get the same feeling when I listen to Silent Alarm.

Get a grip

Turning a band into a crusade is just silly, especially a band like this. Selling loads of records by writing decent tunes (vaguely reminisicent of other bands) and appearing on T4/MTV is hardly the gates of heaven opening up, just makes you another band you can either love or hate or ignore. I'd imagine that BP are embarrassed about this. I'd hope they are.

Buy what the hell you like but you don't need me to tell you that.

P.S. For a more balenced assesment of that record, read this

better link

well that didn't work... try

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/b/bloc-party/silent-alarm.shtml

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it´s a blast. no..i don´t mean "how to dismantle an atomic bomb" from U2.

the bloc party album is a piece of epic. i adore it.

sean´s article is just only the truth. BUY this album this week, to be a part of the revolution in the UK music biz.

just mention my blog: http://artisttowatch.blogspot.com
description: this is the diary of my work as an artist manager for the genius rock act "zeronic", wich are hailing up from a place called austria, the heart of europe. so..this is not a guide to breakthrough, it´s more a story with an open end.

see ya there!

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This article is a hopelessly naive load of nonsense. If Fugazi or Lightning Bolt were in with a shout at the No.1 slot on the albums chart, then maybe that would be some kind of victory, but Bloc Party, halfway decent band though they are, are merely another band signed to a major label to all intents and purposes :V2 in the UK and Atlantic in the States: All this talk of them signing to a 'cutesy indie' label is all well and good until it's used as a subterfuge by the music press and the very corporate machine they're supposed to oppose as a fuckng sales pitch to ensnare clueless indie idealists like the author of this article. They've had the same breathless hype courtesy of the NME and the same kind of pluggers, press people behind them. What's more, their album's a bit on the patchy side, and its cover looks like the sleeve to 'The Man Who'.

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I agree whole-heartedly with Sean's thoughts. I'm not sure whether it matters in the long run whether the album tops the chart or not - BP don't seem the sort of band that cares that much about numbers - but I think Silent Alarm deserves to be heard by as many people as possible.

If you're out there trying to resist buying/listening to the album purely because you'd rather swim against the current, don't bother. For once, the hype surrounding BP isn't just hyperbole - it's totally deserved.

I've done my part:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/rockandalt/reviews/blocparty_silentalarm.shtml

Go do yours.

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We have written and continue to write nice things about Razorlight.

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There are about 11000 other articles on this site about other bands on a range of labels.

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The fact the world of music that contains Fugazi and Lightning Bolt has a chance to be opened up to a wider audience is what this is about. It's about steps and stages. Nothing changes over night but this is a stage of erosion.

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Yeah, that's why Interpol were our album of the year and we've given declared the same as this about the Bright Eyes lp and Reigns and Les Incompetents and a pile of new bands. But sometimes a little extra helps. And we believe this is important. Tho obviously not in same level of importance as some peoples self-important views of themselves and their taste in music. But please continue to send us hate mail...

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crikey now this has caused some concern.

sod it, i'd rather people bought the bloc party album then the keane one,.

at least the bloc party one may encourage you to go and check out a chapterhouse album (if you like here we are, you will adore chapterhouse).

and they like love ends disaster, so i like bloc party.

(subliminal : buy the LED ep, buy the LED ep, buy the LED ep, buy the LED ep).

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excellent post "therion". I think you've hit the nail on the head. It is the pretence that this is a victory for truly independent, grass-roots music that is depressing cos it really isn't and it is gutting to read otherwise in the music press. It is absoluitely not part of some "music business revolution" at all (as some other poster said). Bloc Party have loads of press and money behind them and unfortunately that is still what tends to get you places rather than talent (of which BP do have some I'll grant you)

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They're signed to Wichita in the UK, and Vice Records in the US, not Atlantic. V2 [not a major, really] put out their records in Australia / Japan, I think?

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Slightly syrup-like article and pleaing, but i did download it 2 months ago and bought it on Monday. Not really fussed where it goes in the chart at.
It's gonna go like The Killers 'Hot Fuss'.....steady sales for a while and then go stellar towards the tail end of the year when the inevitable re-released singles come out.

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lowandbehold...another stupid, reactive, no point post about bloc party.

you refusing to buy this album on the basis of one article, regardless of your thoughts on that article, is cutting off your own nose.

secondly, if you had a website / label, and you put records out on it, would you feel within your rights to advertise those artists on said site ? i bet you would.

6 out of 10....better luck next time.

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Yeah it's not like we've done this about the Redjetson album, no matter how great and important and proud we are to be releasing it. We could list about a million ways in which that would be wrong. But if you can't see the logic and point of this article we'd prefer you set-up your own site and prooved us otherwise about how intelligent and gentile you are.

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The "business side" of Vice Recordings is handled by Atlantic. Ever heard of a vanity label? Wake up and smell the curry!

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do explain how silent alarm has captured the spirit of the times ... no substance in that whatsoever

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i can't imagine many people won't find funny the idea of you accusing someone else of self-importance.

why must you see everything in music as being part of some sort of revolution? the world is a far simpler place than you give it credit for ...

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Because all is dream. And without dreams and belief what are we other than just specs on a planet?

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Doesn't Nathan Barley write for Vice?

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Nice plug Andy :)

AS for the album, I'm pretty disappointed by it really. It has a few great moments, but its suprisingly a little dull. The last single is rubbish, and its all a bit bare and cold, which I guess is the point, but for some reason it doesn't work that well.

Still 'This Modern Love' and 'Price of Gas' are pretty cool

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??!?!?! what a big load of monkey bollocks that is ??!?!? dont talk shite ya whining shiteface (jacob Jones rules)

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i'm absolutely stunned by this garbage and i really don't know where to begin ...but here we go ...

this debate is simple. a band have recorded an album. some like it, some don't. Perhaps more people like it because someone somewhere decided bands that sound a bit like them are going to fashionable for a relatively short period of time. However, if their album goes to number one, the world will remain the same. No amount of "dreams and belief" will alter that.

The fact is we are just specs on a planet. Sooner you accept that the better.

Incidentally, i suspect Descartes would have hated Bloc Party too. Just a hunch.

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dam right jacob! and sean although you seem to worship bloc party they are not going to change the world, there album is average and there lives performances are atrocious. I happened to be at the NME award gig this year in newcastle, they followed the kaiser chiefs and were before the futurheads. They were dump and flat and most people were simply bored by them, unlike the futureheads who blew most people away. The fact is for aslong as bloc party have that front man they will be nothing more than average. I would love to see them play concerts as people would just leave with boredom. We will see how brilliant they are by comparing there album sales to that of Keane or Franz Ferdinand then we will find out whos the fucking revoltionary band!!

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Please.
You're 17.
Please, learn the difference between 'there', 'they're' and 'their' before posting again.
I'm happy to teach you, if you need me to patronise you further.
M

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dam right jacob! and sean although you seem to worship bloc party they are not going to change the world, THEIR album is average and THEIR live performances are atrocious. I happened to be at the NME award gig this year in newcastle, they followed the kaiser chiefs and were before the futureheads. They were dump and flat and most people were simply bored by them, unlike the futureheads who blew most people away. The fact is for as long as bloc party have that front man they will be nothing more than average. I would love to see them play concerts as people would just leave with boredom. We will see how brilliant they are by comparing THEIR album sales to that of Keane or Franz Ferdinand at the end of the year then we will find out who is the fucking revolutionary band!! !17 and learning!

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michael, i feel someone ought to teach you the difference between the use of humour in news articles and being a supercilious pretentious tosser.

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They probably should, you know.
I need to be sat down, and given a proper speaking to.
I need someone to help me understand what's 'funny', and what's anything but.
The sad thing is, all I've got to go on is Jimmy Carr's persistent bullshittery on Channel 4.
And man, can he ever bullshit.
But pretentious? Me?
Think you've made a mistake there.

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well hes a southerner, i didnt expect anything more than a terribly witty answer. M how come London is full of twats?

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In a super-sweet turn of events, I found a copy of this in a local charity shop today, for a pound. In mint condition. Fully signed. With bonus live dvd.

Counts, officially, as the best charity shop find ever.

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michael, your arrogant witless stupidity is impenetrable and i can't be bothered to pursue this. just accept that you don't amuse, you grate.

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I'm stupid and arrogant now?
Cool.
Maybe I can ditch this 9-5 and go work in major-label PR.
See ya.

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actually, i've no idea if you're stupid.

if you're meant to be working till 5, how come we've been having this argument ?

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so you were magnetically drawn towards London then? Or was this before the great magnet of London and you simply followed other twatish people there?

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I got a little confused - before I realised I was a fully developed twat, I drifted northwards, ending up in Manchester. There I stayed for a while, as my twattism grew, before the lure of London proved too much.
I'm not sure if there's a giant, underground twat magnet here or not - I'll have to check the city blueprints - but there's something here that attracts us twats.
Still, it's better than, say, New York. That place is knee-deep in twats.

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well, that certainly answers my question, doesn't it ?

Get back to work !

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Hmmm, got bored of reading this after a while, so I'm just gonna put in my two penneth worth and hope for the best. Firstly, I got the album on Monday, and I haven't stopped listening to it all week. I really like it, although I'm not too worried about whether it gets to number one or not.
Secondly, someone above mentioned something about comparing bloc party with Franz Ferdinand and Keane in a year's time to see how revolutionary they are. Sorry but I don't think Franz or Keane are revolutionary at all - they just make safe music that all the chavs will like and buy in order to gain some "indie cool" credits. In particular Keane are the most annoying buzzy little flies I've heard in a long time (at least you can have a good wiggle to Franz!)
"You're just as boring as everyone else..."

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Yeah, I agree with the very first post

the album is good, but it's not worth this much hype!! - its not groundbreaking

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since you fear 'chavs' trying to gain 'indie cool' are you not concerned that the same thing will happen to bloc party? personally, i wouldn't give a shit either way.

franz ferdinand at least write decent pop songs whereas bloc party are flat and lifeless. as for keane, i don't massively like them, but i'm annoyed that it is as fashionable to hate them as it is to like bloc party and it's entirely unjustified - if nothing else, the bloke from keane can actually sing whereas the bloc party singer is perhaps marginally better than me....

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Sorry but I found this email rather cringe-worthy too. Getting this painfully average indie album to number one won't change a thing - and, while it's nice to see bands you like do well, the charts don't mean shit, and it's all just about equillibrium in the world of music anyway. You can sometimes shift that equillibrium a bit but the idea there's some battle on to convince the whole population step by step of the virtues of indie music is a bit, well, naive. So long as there's a vibrant music scene surrounding new and interesting stuff that you like why should it matter whether or not it acheives chart success? Music should be judged on its own merits

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I liked the album better when I bought it in 1977....back then it was called "This is the modern world"

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I liked the album better when I bought it in 1977....back then it was called "This is the modern world"

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While you're in the mood for buying some releases from independents, why not get 'Line of Wealth' by Politburo as well.

Dom
www.politburostateradio.co.uk

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The whole thing is: It genuinely doesn't matter a shit how many copies an album sells: No fucker bought 'The Velvet Underground And Nico' or 'Funhouse' when they came out. And loads of people bought 'No Jacket Required' and 'Left Of The Middle'.

End Of Story.

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Ok, So i bought the album on just the recommendation of DiS, and also because "Bloc Party have done this not through corporate lucre" but hey songs published through EMI and dist by V2 Hmmmm trade description I want my cash back.....

That said the album is quite interesting, some tracks are pretty damn good, so buy it for -
Like Eating Glass
Positive Tension
Blue Light
This Modern Love
pioneers
So here we are

I think they sound like a mix between the Clash and Blur meeting early eighties goth / punk.

but hey I am obviously a bit fucked up cos my girlfriend thinks they sound like the Cure??????

its worth the £8.97 from Tesco but not worth the hype DiS put on it.... go and buy Levitiations 'Need for Not' now that is a stunning record..



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levitiation's need for not, is very very good.

bic hayes has recently set his own record label up.

the rarity is if you can track down levitations's final hanging gardens album, but with the terry bickers vocals.....now that is a stunning record.

bloc party came in the charts at no3 , with the scissor sisters and keane remaining in the top spots.

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Wichita was bought out by V2, basically so V2 could get their hands on Bloc Party. And as part of Virgin, V2 is a major label, although admittedly one that should receive a certain amount of recognition for bankrolling two ace albums that sold near enough fuck all (Icarus Line 'Penance Soiree' and Blood Brothers' 'Crimes', since you asked) I can't be arsed to get into that lame old 'sell-out' debate, but although I should imagine they're good lads, Bloc Party ain't yo' DIY poster boys. Just another bunch of mildly talented young fops thrust through the mainstream music biz ringer.

I actually did buy 'Silent Alarm', and it's a bit disappointing to be honest. And as Matt says, what the fuck difference does it make how many people bought it? Nobody bought 'The Velvet Underground And Nico' when it came out, and shitloads of people bought 'No Jacket Required'.

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Not to confuse things Virgin Records was sold to EMI. But yes, V2 is owned in some part by Richard Branson. However, V2 is a member of AIM (the Association of Independent Music) which means they're classed as much as an indie, on par with Mute or Beggars Banquet. I'd hardly say Mercury Rev, Elbow and Stereophonics have sold peanuts.

Not that, that, is what this is all about. V2 came aboard the good ship Bloc quite late on, and haven't been the driving force behind their rise (if anything I'd imagine they came on more to cover Europe and to eliviate paying MCPS upfront).

What this is/was about is that this is a great record with the potential to go top 5. And it did. It in at 3 (in the high sales week after the Brits). And it isn't the kind of record which had a big breakthrough single.

The charts and chart success simply make a difference for the chart-driven media, who then help sell records. But when it comes quietly at them from the album charts, because other people who aren't driven by the charts (simply by music) take a risk on such a band, and then maybe things can change so that the outlets stop championing the same 5 bands.

Sean

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How does a scene become vibrant if there isn't a magnet or a doorway into it? That's more the point if this, which has been missed by so many, than anything.

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I agree. It's only 'important' to buy someone's records when it comes out if you like being part of the pop bubble rising. I get the feeling Bloc Party aren't hugely fussed about mainstream recognition in their own time, but they don't strike me as thw stuff of future legend either - too ordinary. I feel like if their stuff comes my way I'll enjoy it, but I don't feel any compulsion to leap on the bandwagon.

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fair enough Sean, but you keep defending it, you must realise the article was a little misguided and could have made the point in a better way?

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The problem is, those bands should also not be grey, poseuriffic, have the worst drumming since the Kings of Leon, and have the same riff repeated FOREVER UNTIL IT NUMBS THE COCKLES OF YOUR HEART.


I LIKE the same riff repeated forever until it numbs the cockles of your heart and hopefully MAKES YOUR EARS FUCKING BLEED - Listen to Wolf Eyes; it hurts!

Bloc Party are actually pretty good, too. And I don't think there's anything wrong with a band getting popular - if they can make some kind of a living out of it without having to endorse Nissan or whatever, then good luck to them.

Um, yeah.

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Nothing annoys me more than some scally thinking they're so "alternative" just becuase they're listening to Keane [or insert any appropriate band here]. I don't dislike Keane becuase its fashionable iether, I genuinely think they are the epitome of blandness and the little singing potato does not inspire me at all. And conversely, I genuinely like Bloc Party. I'm not adverse to Franz either, I enjoy a good bout of foot stomping as much as the next person, but I wouldn't say they were particularly amazing, just a band that, as you say, writes decent pop songs. You might not like Bloc Party, but I don't think anyone could say that Keane, or even Franz Ferdinand, are somehow more "important" or "revolutionary" than Bloc Party. They're probably on the same level. Although maybe bloc party are a bit higher :P

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Why not try buying music because you like it, or not buying it if you don't. It's a reasonably simple concept. If you can't find anything you like, you could try making it yourself, or getting a musically-inclined friend to do it. Some things that you buy, you will grow bored of fairly soon, but you liked it at the time, and that's ok. Some things will stay with you forever, and that's ok too.

Personally, Bloc Party rock my world and their album will be amongst my all-time favourites. But some of my best friends, whose musical taste is very good, hate it. Ain't life, in all it's diversity, grand?

And in conclusion, let's not confuse opinion with fact. There are no facts with music, which is probably what makes it so exciting!

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It's always amusing to see an argument about, essentially, what constitutes good music this long.

Not that I actually read it all, I haven't got the time to read the comments of stubborn people (like me) arguing with other stubborn people (also like me) about who're right and who're wrong. However, it's nice to see that people actually care enough about music to do so.

Anyway, I bought "Silent Alarm" on the day of it release purely because I knew it to be a wonderful album. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter who releases what, who owns who and which pen signed what paper. As long as the music's good, then nothing else really matters.

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You have to question why it was written in the first place. If Bloc Party had got to no.1, the world wouldn't have just changed.

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true, but it wont change either if we just sit down in our asses pleasuring ourselves without doing anything

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Silent alarm is AMAZING!!! thanks DIS 4 recomending it cos otherwise i would have just pondered over buying it... but i did buy it and it's the best album i've heard in ageeeeeesssss!

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Urban Hymns is a pile of shite.

Fucksake, even 'A Northern Soul' is fairly patchy. 'A Storm in Heaven' totally fucking rules. Back in the days when Verve were good...

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If you think that about Parachutes then...erm...Christ, you need to hear some better music. Chiefly, Mclusky's 'Do Dallas' album should begin set you straight.

Christ, I still can't quite belive what you just wrote there.

Jesus...I feel ill.

^^^ this ^^^

had better be for 4real.

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