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Date: 15/08/2005
Have Oceansize lost their mojo?
Their power, thus far, has been in playing the hell out of songs that were deliciously "other" - songwriting that was instant and intriguing, but never obvious; pop songs from a parallel universe - not difficult to listen to, but possessed of melodic strains that seemed uncharted. Their live sets thus far have been utterly spellbinding. What happened? Tonight the time drags, the songs stretch out ahead like eternal tasks that never end, and bludgeoning chord follows bludgeoning chord, with a massive melodic deficit; nowhere are the sparkling, intricate melodies that we've seen colouring their powerhouse riffs.
Unprecedentedly, they're actually too loud. Partly it's the Barfly's sound system, unsuited to the kind of ambitious volume we've come to expect from Oceansize. Partly it's the band themselves. For tonight at least, they seem to have misplaced any trace of subtlety. The disorientating 'one out of nONE''s murderous complexity is reduced to white fuzz, blind aerial noise. 'One Day All This Will Be Yours' seethes with tight, sensually rhythmic aggression but still it feels like Oceansize are trying too hard to pierce eardrums.
Cuts off the new album Everyone Into Position, meanwhile, are unfocused and blearily noisy. Layers upon layers of heaviness, power, density, whatever, weigh each other down and crush each other into an arbitrary black mass of LOUD - Oceansize seem to have forgotten the value of space and how superbly they're capable of employing it. Mike Vennart's vocals, inexpert but powerful and integral to Oceansize's melodic side, are overtaken by the onslaught of guitars. First single from the album, _'Heaven Alive', lacks their trademark fluid perversity, tempering a forgettable verse with a massive, dumb chorus. Somehow this new material sounded hopeful when they previewed it earlier this summer, but tonight it sounds deadened.
The crowd are singing along, but it's like being at an {insert band name} eighteen fucking quid Brixton gig; gone is the gorgeous absurdity of hearing a room of voices reach for elegant and bizarre melodies in deserved, adoring unison. It's enormously disappointing, given the flawed but brilliant potential of their first album and live shows to date. Oceansize have proved time and time again what capability and imagination they have and it's hard to believe that's deserted them so early on; one can only hope the future brings brighter things from them.
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Oceansize
the problem being the 1st album was over 4 years of Oceansize; the first 4 years of Oceansize; the good ideas of Oceansize. They sadly seem to have run out of those good ideas.
Oceansize
I thought they were fucking immense last night, personally. Not the best I've ever seen them, but still real damn good. I don't believe for a minute they've "run out of good ideas". I believe the 'Music For Nurses' EP exists, too? I think they suffered because of the amount of new songs they played and the muddy sound, but I don't think that warrants a trashing of their songwriting. We're not talking 'Warnings/Promises' here.
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Very harsh review. In comparision to other Oceansize performances, i'd say maybe a 3.5/5. Even with shit sound though they still make 99% bands sound like Glenn Ponda and Lazarus.
Agreed, the sound was out of shape last night. Due to a shitty mix (one guitar way higher in the mix than the other two), some of the detail of the songs was lost. Sack the soundman yes, but don't you think it is a little early to rip apart their new material given that the complexity of their sound was comprimised ?
Music For Nurses and Everyone Into Position both sounded awesome (with fantstic use of space) even with the poor mix.
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music for nurses was fantastic. but one out of none, which should absolutely slay live, sounded blurry and awful.
it fucking killed me to write that review, because i love oceansize to bits, but i went along to review the gig, and there's little point in me doing so unless i'm honest about my opinion. harsh maybe, but honest. but i've seen them many a time and never been so disappointed as i was last night. i don't think they've lost their ability to write songs, but the new songs they played last night sounded like vast expanses of nothing, and even the songs which i've loved for a long time didn't seem to have any of the emotional resonance they should have had. i'm convinced oceansize can do better, and i'm waiting for them to do so.
it fucking killed me to write that review, because i love oceansize to bits, but i went along to review the gig, and there's little point in me doing so unless i'm honest about my opinion. harsh maybe, but honest. but i've seen them many a time and never been so disappointed as i was last night. i don't think they've lost their ability to write songs, but the new songs they played last night sounded like vast expanses of nothing, and even the songs which i've loved for a long time didn't seem to have any of the emotional resonance they should have had. i'm convinced oceansize can do better, and i'm waiting for them to do so.
Re: Oceansize
Sorry, I meant Music for A Nurse (the last song) and the first song (featuring the lyric "everyone into position). Damn Song titles!!!
Have you heard the new album yet?
Have you heard the new album yet?
Re: Oceansize
i haven't. i've been told mixed things about it... a friend whose opinion i trust loves it, another friend thinks it's poor. i'll wait and see, i guess.
Re: Oceansize
Well I've heard the album a lot and loved previous stuff, but the new material is inexcusably one-dimensional and poor.
I stand by Gen's review.
I stand by Gen's review.
Re: Oceansize
she didn't "bother" to get the album? what the fuck are you talking about?
Re: Oceansize
Chris, this guy is clearly a tosspot.
Re: Oceansize
^5 w00t.
Re: Oceansize
the barfly certainly isn't suited to their sound, but i don't think they played it because they "had" to - not in the sense of being unable to fill somewhere larger, anyway - their stupendous garage show was proof of that, as is the forthcoming gig they've booked in islington. i was excited about last night's gig for a long time, because it was a rare chance to see a band i love in a sweatbox full of fans, and get taken over by it, rather than standing in a big room surrounded by vaguely interested people. that's part of why last night was such a disappointment; i expected a focused, passionate show with, potentially, shitty sound, but as someone else stated, it was soulless; capable but emotionally slack, and they might as well have been playing to 1000 half-bothered people in some fucking concrete room.
still, i look forward to islington. they've impressed me enough over the past few years that i still await it with interest.
still, i look forward to islington. they've impressed me enough over the past few years that i still await it with interest.
Oceansize
I totally agree that the new material sounded not all that wonderful last night, EXCEPT for the last song ('Music For A Nurse') which was utterly immense and sounded like one of their best songs yet.
I had a lot of fun trying to dance to their time signatures, despite the lack of compatriots in that department.
And my oh my the Barfly is a shithole.
I had a lot of fun trying to dance to their time signatures, despite the lack of compatriots in that department.
And my oh my the Barfly is a shithole.
Re: Oceansize
you speak the truth.
Oceansize
To be honest, I've never really understood the false praise bestowed on this lot any way. They've never really been anything other than an OK substitute for the Cooper TEmple Clause with longer, drawn out middle eights and 'Effloresce' had its moments but by and large bored the pants off me. Until they write something resembling a tune I fail to see any kind of future for Oceansize.
Re: Oceansize
I was disapointed with Oceansize....but then how awesome was Martin Grech?! He stole the show....
Oceansize
After reading that review, I'm not going to bother reading the following responses in case I either boil over with anger at people agreeing with you, or find I am repeating what someone has already said in repost, but I would like to say that quite plainly you are WRONG.
Your review here isn't of Oceansize, it is of the sound quality at the Barfly - the reason for this show not being as good as some previous shows was not partly due to the Barfly soundsystem - it was TOTALLY due to it - eveything else was brilliant. One Out Of None was incredible - what are you talking about? And the new one they played second to last is probably the best song I have heard by them yet - and this is after me putting my amateur music critic neck on the line by saying Effloresce was basically faultless and the best British album since OK Computer.
If you want to make a judgement on the quality of the new songs wait until you get the album to review.
It's ridiculous - you are like a stroppy Arsenal fan who gets pissed off when they don't win everything. Even while not sounding perfect on Monday night, I can count the amount of bands I would have rather been watching on one hand. Oceansize are still the best band of their type in the world at the moment - and I think they will get a whole lot better too.
Your review here isn't of Oceansize, it is of the sound quality at the Barfly - the reason for this show not being as good as some previous shows was not partly due to the Barfly soundsystem - it was TOTALLY due to it - eveything else was brilliant. One Out Of None was incredible - what are you talking about? And the new one they played second to last is probably the best song I have heard by them yet - and this is after me putting my amateur music critic neck on the line by saying Effloresce was basically faultless and the best British album since OK Computer.
If you want to make a judgement on the quality of the new songs wait until you get the album to review.
It's ridiculous - you are like a stroppy Arsenal fan who gets pissed off when they don't win everything. Even while not sounding perfect on Monday night, I can count the amount of bands I would have rather been watching on one hand. Oceansize are still the best band of their type in the world at the moment - and I think they will get a whole lot better too.
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fuckin A. You have a shit sound in a shit venue, you have a shit gig, that's all.
I saw oceansize last night at fibbers in York and it was FUCKING AMAZING!!! Lucky for me, I had already heard the new album and so knew what to expect in some of the new songs, however the sound there last night was brilliant.
I saw Reuben at the same venue a few weeks ago and their sound was shit and subsequently ruined the gig.
One out of None tore my face off, and so did all the other tunes, I can only make out from your review that you just had a shite mix. Get the new album down yer neck and go and watch em at a decent venue (not that fibbers is much better)
Don't give up on em yet! :)
I saw oceansize last night at fibbers in York and it was FUCKING AMAZING!!! Lucky for me, I had already heard the new album and so knew what to expect in some of the new songs, however the sound there last night was brilliant.
I saw Reuben at the same venue a few weeks ago and their sound was shit and subsequently ruined the gig.
One out of None tore my face off, and so did all the other tunes, I can only make out from your review that you just had a shite mix. Get the new album down yer neck and go and watch em at a decent venue (not that fibbers is much better)
Don't give up on em yet! :)
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here's the thing about writing a review of a gig - it's an opinion piece. "wrong" doesn't come into it. no-one's saying you have to agree with me.
i've seen something like 150 gigs at the barfly. perhaps more. the sound has been hit and miss on many an occasion [though it's by far not the worst in london, and i've seen stunning shows at worse venues... eden maine at the verge, f'rinstance... jeeesus.]. yet i've still seen bands put on phenomenal shows at the barfly, regardless of sound quality - including oceansize. i've seen oceansize...what.. 10 times perhaps? on several of those occasions, the sound was deeply disappointing, yet their performance was still a white-knuckle ride that battered everything in me that's capable of reacting to music. other times they themselves've been weaker, but still made the necessary emotional connection. on monday night, it felt emotionless. and despite the fact that the set was full of new material - something that should have made for an exciting show - it felt like there were no surprises, nothing unpredictable, nothing startling, nothing actually "new".
i'm not in the habit of thoroughly slating bands purely on the basis that the sound is shit. i'm also not in the habit of praising a band i truly love when they put on what is, in my opinion - note those words - a bad show. at the start of the gig i was singing along by default, and looking forward to hearing new material. by the end, i was... how can i put this..? bored. d'you want me to lie about that and say it was the finest thing i've ever seen?
i think they'll get a whole lot better too. they're a deeply talented band and i haven't written them off.
i've seen something like 150 gigs at the barfly. perhaps more. the sound has been hit and miss on many an occasion [though it's by far not the worst in london, and i've seen stunning shows at worse venues... eden maine at the verge, f'rinstance... jeeesus.]. yet i've still seen bands put on phenomenal shows at the barfly, regardless of sound quality - including oceansize. i've seen oceansize...what.. 10 times perhaps? on several of those occasions, the sound was deeply disappointing, yet their performance was still a white-knuckle ride that battered everything in me that's capable of reacting to music. other times they themselves've been weaker, but still made the necessary emotional connection. on monday night, it felt emotionless. and despite the fact that the set was full of new material - something that should have made for an exciting show - it felt like there were no surprises, nothing unpredictable, nothing startling, nothing actually "new".
i'm not in the habit of thoroughly slating bands purely on the basis that the sound is shit. i'm also not in the habit of praising a band i truly love when they put on what is, in my opinion - note those words - a bad show. at the start of the gig i was singing along by default, and looking forward to hearing new material. by the end, i was... how can i put this..? bored. d'you want me to lie about that and say it was the finest thing i've ever seen?
i think they'll get a whole lot better too. they're a deeply talented band and i haven't written them off.
Oceansize
I do agree that everyone has an opinion (and we love to question opinions on DiS) but seeing them last night, I just find it hard to believe that they could've been anything short of amazing, still, I understand that different people look at bands differently to me.
Here's a comparison, written by someone from godisinthetv which picks up on some of your points but not others. For example, people I spoke to loved Martin Grech but this guy doesn't. I'd post a link but it's not an exact page to link to.
Oceansize + Amplifier + Martin Grech - London Barfly, 15/8/05
Somewhere in another universe, Oceansize would be commercially viable.
As it stands, their progressive (but not as such prog - despite the
long songs and experimentations, they're too lean and mean to ever make
anything overly fanciful) sound, influenced by post-rock and metal but
not fully either, is unlikely to break any sales records in the near
future, but with a new album out soon, they're doing enough to get by.
And clearly that's not going unappreciated - the audience here, very
serious and hairy, know every word, though most of them would never do
anything so indie as to mouth or let along sing along. Accordingly,
appropriate support acts have been chosen for this show at the (frankly
pretty horrible) Barfly. First up is Martin Grech, whose recordings
exhibit invention and complexity that takes in everything from
classical to metal to folk, along with a haunting voice that recalls an
evil (in the best possible way) Jeff Buckley. That voice is here
tonight, enhanced by an echoing mic effect, and that always counts for
something, but unfortunately the inventiveness isn't. The reason? It's
an acoustic set. Most singer-songwriters lose very little acoustically,
gaining intensity if anything, but because Martin Grech's arrangements
and instrumentation are important, he loses more. Stripped down his
songs seem more portentous and weighty, and some of the lyrics are
revealed to be somewhat cliched. There genuinely seems to be very
little logic in his playing acoustically. Next up are Amplifier, who
fit, as far as there is any kind of scene around Oceansize's sound,
into the same kind of bracket, or at least so I thought. The first
track is slow, atmospheric and intense, and sounds like if only the
annoying singer shut up it could be pretty accomplished post-rock,
though Oceansize do the similar sound better. But after this they
declare the rest of their set will be 'new material'. And they've got a
new direction - namely to strip back to sub-standard hard rock which,
despite the occasional interesting riff or bassline, is for the most
part entirely uninterested, sounding, oddly, at times even like a
third-rate Nirvana. It's shrill and genuinely really quite horrible.
But of course the band I'm really here to see is Oceansize. Frontman
Mike Vennert is in a contrary mood, partly perhaps due to the venue,
and certainly the sound problems which they face towards the beginning,
but this ultimately come good, resulting in the gloriously patronising
proclamation following the outbreak of moshing during one of their
heavier moments, 'dance like adults; don't push each other like
children'. You could forgive the latter though, as the set is
blisteringly intense and the old material sounds awesome, with the
3-guitar attack delivering a perfect rendition of 'Amputee' and a
savage version of 'One Out Of None', amongst others. The new material,
however, is mixed. It's more metal-influenced, in keeping with the
Music For Nurses EP, and seems heavily influenced by the extreme
quiet-loud dynamics of Aerogramme. But on the surface the melodies that
link all the technical excellence and odd time signatures (which,
incidentally, are so much fun to attempt to dance to it's almost
insane, even if I'm one of the few people doing so - but seriously,
there's a certain groove to Oceansize's music) seem strangely absent.
This is, however, until the last song, 'Music For A Nurse' (not off the
EP of the almost same name but in fact off the forthcoming second album
'Everyone Into Position'), which is utterly incredible: all-out
post-rock, pianos and all, tear-inducingly beautiful yet, as always,
building to a furious climax, perfect noise that is like prime Mogwai
except possibly even better - yes, that good. It sounds like the best
thing they've ever done, which is truly no mean feat, and should make
the next album worth the entry price alone. No encore - always a good
move - and so it finishes on a high. Don't count them out yet.
Here's a comparison, written by someone from godisinthetv which picks up on some of your points but not others. For example, people I spoke to loved Martin Grech but this guy doesn't. I'd post a link but it's not an exact page to link to.
Oceansize + Amplifier + Martin Grech - London Barfly, 15/8/05
Somewhere in another universe, Oceansize would be commercially viable.
As it stands, their progressive (but not as such prog - despite the
long songs and experimentations, they're too lean and mean to ever make
anything overly fanciful) sound, influenced by post-rock and metal but
not fully either, is unlikely to break any sales records in the near
future, but with a new album out soon, they're doing enough to get by.
And clearly that's not going unappreciated - the audience here, very
serious and hairy, know every word, though most of them would never do
anything so indie as to mouth or let along sing along. Accordingly,
appropriate support acts have been chosen for this show at the (frankly
pretty horrible) Barfly. First up is Martin Grech, whose recordings
exhibit invention and complexity that takes in everything from
classical to metal to folk, along with a haunting voice that recalls an
evil (in the best possible way) Jeff Buckley. That voice is here
tonight, enhanced by an echoing mic effect, and that always counts for
something, but unfortunately the inventiveness isn't. The reason? It's
an acoustic set. Most singer-songwriters lose very little acoustically,
gaining intensity if anything, but because Martin Grech's arrangements
and instrumentation are important, he loses more. Stripped down his
songs seem more portentous and weighty, and some of the lyrics are
revealed to be somewhat cliched. There genuinely seems to be very
little logic in his playing acoustically. Next up are Amplifier, who
fit, as far as there is any kind of scene around Oceansize's sound,
into the same kind of bracket, or at least so I thought. The first
track is slow, atmospheric and intense, and sounds like if only the
annoying singer shut up it could be pretty accomplished post-rock,
though Oceansize do the similar sound better. But after this they
declare the rest of their set will be 'new material'. And they've got a
new direction - namely to strip back to sub-standard hard rock which,
despite the occasional interesting riff or bassline, is for the most
part entirely uninterested, sounding, oddly, at times even like a
third-rate Nirvana. It's shrill and genuinely really quite horrible.
But of course the band I'm really here to see is Oceansize. Frontman
Mike Vennert is in a contrary mood, partly perhaps due to the venue,
and certainly the sound problems which they face towards the beginning,
but this ultimately come good, resulting in the gloriously patronising
proclamation following the outbreak of moshing during one of their
heavier moments, 'dance like adults; don't push each other like
children'. You could forgive the latter though, as the set is
blisteringly intense and the old material sounds awesome, with the
3-guitar attack delivering a perfect rendition of 'Amputee' and a
savage version of 'One Out Of None', amongst others. The new material,
however, is mixed. It's more metal-influenced, in keeping with the
Music For Nurses EP, and seems heavily influenced by the extreme
quiet-loud dynamics of Aerogramme. But on the surface the melodies that
link all the technical excellence and odd time signatures (which,
incidentally, are so much fun to attempt to dance to it's almost
insane, even if I'm one of the few people doing so - but seriously,
there's a certain groove to Oceansize's music) seem strangely absent.
This is, however, until the last song, 'Music For A Nurse' (not off the
EP of the almost same name but in fact off the forthcoming second album
'Everyone Into Position'), which is utterly incredible: all-out
post-rock, pianos and all, tear-inducingly beautiful yet, as always,
building to a furious climax, perfect noise that is like prime Mogwai
except possibly even better - yes, that good. It sounds like the best
thing they've ever done, which is truly no mean feat, and should make
the next album worth the entry price alone. No encore - always a good
move - and so it finishes on a high. Don't count them out yet.
Oceansize
The Cooper Temple Clause? Where have you heard the camparison between 'size and them?
Re: Oceansize
Probably because the first couple of times I saw them was as a support band to TCTC and they just left me thinking...meh....next. Some of the twiddly bits and fast-slow-fast-slow-loud-quiet-loud-quiet things going on remind me of stuff like 'Lets Kill Music' minus the tune, but that is probably just me.
Re: Oceansize
There's the specific link:
http://www.giittv.hypnotisingsilence.net/reviews/oceansizeampgrech.htm
http://www.giittv.hypnotisingsilence.net/reviews/oceansizeampgrech.htm
Oceansize
i think the above review is more accurate that DiS's review
i just think Gen Williams was a little depressed that night..
i just think Gen Williams was a little depressed that night..
Re: Oceansize
I was bored to death by them at Fibbers last night...Amplifier were even worse.
Re: Oceansize
Yeah, Amplifier are fucking tragic.
Oceansize
I just got back from the Glasgow Barfly gig, which was tremendous.
Two of the new songs (The Charm Offensive and You Can't Keep A Good Man Down) didn't impress me as much as the other new material, but the fact that they played Breed Siamese left me a very happy camper.
Two of the new songs (The Charm Offensive and You Can't Keep A Good Man Down) didn't impress me as much as the other new material, but the fact that they played Breed Siamese left me a very happy camper.
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Or even Can't Keep A Bad Man Down. I have a memory like a fucking goldfish.
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haha!
not at all, sir, not at all. i was in the company of good people and watching a band i like and expected to enjoy. i didn't enjoy them. that's all.
not at all, sir, not at all. i was in the company of good people and watching a band i like and expected to enjoy. i didn't enjoy them. that's all.
Oceansize
I think the reason I was so cheesed off was the fact that I have seen so many bands fall by the wayside simply through lack of support. It remains to be seen whether the commercial press will get behind Oceansize. Effloresce got decent reviews all over, mainly because it would have been idiotic to not give it a good review, but nobody really picked up on them as a band to hype or talk about very much.
So it really gets my goat when probably the biggest, most influential independent website gives a gig of one of the best live bands in the world 2 out of 5, and not only that, it is written by someone who professes to being a big fan. Yeah you may have thought the gig was a bit off, and you are quite entitled to say "one can only hope the future brings brighter things from them".
Its not going to if people like you don't do your very best to support them at this stage. Just realise this.
So it really gets my goat when probably the biggest, most influential independent website gives a gig of one of the best live bands in the world 2 out of 5, and not only that, it is written by someone who professes to being a big fan. Yeah you may have thought the gig was a bit off, and you are quite entitled to say "one can only hope the future brings brighter things from them".
Its not going to if people like you don't do your very best to support them at this stage. Just realise this.
Re: Oceansize
a fair point, and reasonably made... thank you. but at the same time, i'm not going to lie about what i thought of the gig [i didn't think it was 'a bit off' - i was wildly, bitterly disappointed with it, and that's why it got the above review and mark], and i was there specifically to review it. we're not in the habit of taking free tickets to things and not doing the work at the end of it, and the nature of our site is that we try to report honestly, because to do otherwise invalidates any and every opinion we might cast in the future.
i'd also point out that we have reviewed them on many an occasion before, and i daresay will again, and most of our reviews of them thus far have been wildly positive ones. we've hardly launched some kind of vendetta against them. it was one negative review, and one that i'm not going to apologise for. i daresay positive words will be written next time i or another DiS writer is impressed by them.
i'd also point out that we have reviewed them on many an occasion before, and i daresay will again, and most of our reviews of them thus far have been wildly positive ones. we've hardly launched some kind of vendetta against them. it was one negative review, and one that i'm not going to apologise for. i daresay positive words will be written next time i or another DiS writer is impressed by them.
Re: Oceansize
Hmm..
I'd much rather see honest journalism where people are not afraid to say that, yes, sometimes their favourite bands can make mistakes, than sycophantic journalism where negative opinion is surpressed to help the band "break" commercially.
I'd much rather see honest journalism where people are not afraid to say that, yes, sometimes their favourite bands can make mistakes, than sycophantic journalism where negative opinion is surpressed to help the band "break" commercially.
Re: Oceansize
so what you're saying is that this gig should've got 4 or 4.5 out of 5?
even though it was worth 2?
think about what you're saying here.
it's not a review of the band over the past 5 years. it's a review of 1 night? do you see?
even though it was worth 2?
think about what you're saying here.
it's not a review of the band over the past 5 years. it's a review of 1 night? do you see?
Oceansize
went to the gig at cardiff last night
can honestly say it was the best ive ever seen them and their set flows a lot better because of the more songs they now have and the variety of styles
ears are now ringing almost unbearably
can honestly say it was the best ive ever seen them and their set flows a lot better because of the more songs they now have and the variety of styles
ears are now ringing almost unbearably
Re: Oceansize
Even better, download it off DiS.
Re: Oceansize
I agree. It's all too frequent to see both smaller zines and larger websites like DiS afraid to give anything except the most obviously terrible a low rating. It's good to see reviews where the verdict is unpredictable. It's a reviews site, not a PR company. If certain bands are guaranteed positive reviews, then it becomes meaningless.
Re: Oceansize
Please don't make any assumptions about Gen, a person you've never met and know nothing about.
She possesses more musical intelligence than you for sure, and most other DiS writers, and is certainly not shy of feedback. Nor would she be seen at a Killers show.
I was at the same show and it left me numb. It did nothing for me, whatsoever, and I'm an Oceansize fan.
So, in short: go away, child.
She possesses more musical intelligence than you for sure, and most other DiS writers, and is certainly not shy of feedback. Nor would she be seen at a Killers show.
I was at the same show and it left me numb. It did nothing for me, whatsoever, and I'm an Oceansize fan.
So, in short: go away, child.
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As much as I'd love to dream otherwise, I assume you are no Mozart.
Besides, I was not making a comment on your personal pereceptions and experiences of music, on your knowledge as such; rather, that you are wrong to disrespect Gen in such a way. It's patronising, pure and simple, and grossly misplaced at that.
If you'd said such a thing to her face she'd have torn yours off, be you 16 or 60.
So, in short: laters.
Besides, I was not making a comment on your personal pereceptions and experiences of music, on your knowledge as such; rather, that you are wrong to disrespect Gen in such a way. It's patronising, pure and simple, and grossly misplaced at that.
If you'd said such a thing to her face she'd have torn yours off, be you 16 or 60.
So, in short: laters.
Re: Oceansize
Well, true - the Barfly sound is poor at best.
Re: Oceansize
woo.
i'm sure i've said it elsewhere in response to this review, but i've seen oceansize many a time.... at least 8 times. i have reviewed them more than once before. I Like Them. which makes me as qualified as any to reflect on what i see as a bad show by them. one out of none's a work of art, and if they couldn't make that sound good that night.... meh.
cheers for yr kind words mister diver.
alas, i must confess that i have been seen at more than one killers show.
weren't very good, mind.
i'm sure i've said it elsewhere in response to this review, but i've seen oceansize many a time.... at least 8 times. i have reviewed them more than once before. I Like Them. which makes me as qualified as any to reflect on what i see as a bad show by them. one out of none's a work of art, and if they couldn't make that sound good that night.... meh.
cheers for yr kind words mister diver.
alas, i must confess that i have been seen at more than one killers show.
weren't very good, mind.
Re: Oceansize
each to their own opinion :)
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