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The Vines
Things couldn’t continue that way; something had to give, and odds on that something was Craig. Drawing comparisons to Kurt Cobain both for his on stage madness and off stage fragility, the music press nodded sagely and prepared itself to document a Pete Docherty-esque decline. Frankly, the fact they’d got it together enough for a new single, never mind album, let alone tour came as a surprise. So it is with a mixture of shock and relief that the all-new healthy looking Vines are greeted to the stage. Craig is still pale (surely unnatural for an Australian), but there is definitely more than a hint of muscle about his be-vested body and he looks like he’s seen the inside of a shower cubicle more recently than last week. He seems sleek, astute and confident, and there is no hint of the trademark Vines-desperation about him or the rest of the band.
The set opens with new single 'Ride', an unsurprising, unchallenging a.n.other Vines’ release which is just saved from blandness by some almo-Beach Boys harmonies. The multi-voices of The Vines are probably the most striking aspects of the band’s whole performance tonight, both in the close harmonies of Craig, Ryan and Patrick (and the endearing singing-sans-microphone of drummer Hamish Rosser during 'Mary Jane'), and in the different vocal styles of Craig, from frenzied shouting to crooning to yodelling. 'Evil Town' is a joy of Pearl Jam growling and 'Winning Days' positively, delightfully Country. There is a discernable lack however of what was for the many the very essence of The Vines; chaos, unpredictability and just a little genuine madness. Tonight’s show is tight and professional; every note is clear and every light change happens right on cue, but it’s glaringly obvious that the crowd is waiting for something different. A few lame surfers try to get it going during 'She’s Got Something To Say', but the biggest surges of excitement are for 'Outtathaway' and 'Fuck The World', when Craig really does make like a bulging eyed Rather Good kitten.
The ultimate feeling tonight, however, is one of disappointment. It was obvious that The Vines couldn’t have carried on the fast burning path they were treading when they first demanded our attention; but it’s a shame they haven’t retained just a little of the hunger that gave them such an edge. Organised chaos really is no kind of chaos at all.
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Georgina, I personally thought the NME's constant schtick of painting Nicholls as some bastard child mutation sprung from the same mental cells as Cobain and Richey Edwards to be rather shitty? Is it possible that now the insanity trick seems to have worn off, they're realising that the songs aren't that great and now we've got to go ultra-pro to cover up the cracks?
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surely there's a happy medium ground. No-one wants to see another rock star succumb to their demons but on the other hand a band like the vines should thrive on deranged performance and spontaneity. Mind you who listens to the first Vines album any more? And isn't he (Nicholls) actually just a bit of a twat? -
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I will struggle to forgive NME for what they did to the Vines. Usually I couldn't give a flying toss what they print, but the whole "catch them before he kills himself!" thing was just so over the top. The problem with calling anyone "the best band ever!!!!!!!" and devoting whole issues to their demi-God capacities is that people get disappointed. And every time they hear a record by that band, all they hear is the trashy hair-rock the press made them out to be.
I shall make no bones about it: I love The Vines. I truly think they are awesome. Now, before you all call me a twat for even thinking of making that statement, take a quick flick through my profile and see that my favourite bands are most definitely NOT The Darkness, The Libertines and The Datsuns. Of course I'm fed up with the hype - aren't we all? - but the first time I heard "Get Free", before I knew who it was, I instantly fell in love with it.
The common criticisms - no personality, poor songs, standard stylistic template, etc. - just don't stack up for me. In fact, quite the opposite. I don't think Nicholls is a genius, not by any means. But the man has an astonishing ear for a pop tune, and - perhaps more importantly - simultaneous pop tunes; check the interweaving melodies on tracks like "Outtathaway" or "Homesick". Likewise, whilst the band's arrangements retain the punch and instinctive physicality of your standard-issue "garage rock" clones, the nuances of their sound and the textural layering add a new dimension that's almost Pavement-esque in the way it works. As for the issue of charisma...to be honest, I can't name many bands recently who have brought an individual mark to their music in quite the same way The Vines have, but I guess that's all down to what you hear individually.
Surely better than shite like Goatface Hawkins and his Merry Band of Goons, at least?-
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Ditto with "Get Free". Probably the best rock single of the year.
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i kind of agree with smileadelic. The vines have a discernabile ear for catchy pop melodies. I dont really like the whole attitude of 'fuck the world' like someone's conjured up 'i dont give a shit' as a forced statement. But i like the vines alot. On the topic of NME - WHO GIVES A SHIT. ok so, people like NME, others dont, i personally dont like the writers who seem to all have a God complex...or something i do like the news in it - but just because they hype everything up it doesnt mean people are gonna instantly run out + buy their albums, actually BECAUSE NME hype everything up i would have thought that would deter people - seeing as everyone here moans n moans about how NME hype everything and are shite....ahem..sorry but music writing is all like NME, we all overhype what we love. they overhyped the vines - now i s'pose the vines are payin. -
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The Vines are irritating, that's for sure. I've seen them twice and they were good the first time, fucking awful the next. The first album was inconsistent. Get Free's was great, Outtatheway was lacklustre. Seeing Nicholls live, one wasn't sure if the NME balthering about his crazy-wazzy ways was press bullshit or whether he himself believed the bullshit and hyped himself up a little. He has got some talent in the songwriting department, it just seems a little too covered off by the frequent shitty live performances. The Vines do need spontaneity and energy and a somewhat deranged air: that doesn't have to come at the expense of the material though.
NME gets mentioned because the Vines are a case in point as to how press hype can elevate a band up and simultaneously get people to view them negatively. In many cases, NME hype is a direct parallel to the dreader 'vote of confidence' from the board of directors for a football manager ie. a noose around the neck. All that press hype has possibly turned out to make more people back away from the Vines than attract new fans.
Now, who fancies launching a campaign to get Gerard Houllier hyped up by NME? :)

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