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End of days shit right here
For the rest of his life when someone Googles him, he'll be the idiot that claims to suffer from periods.
So utterly wtf-worthy that I had to share this on fb as well.
Or the evil mass murderer that suffers from the male period.
He can't win.
but it's totally different to a period and it's absolutely ridiculous of this dick to suggest otherwise
which aspects of being a biological woman he can identify with?
"George however wouldn't fully compare what he goes through each month to what a female does. 'It's probably a pinch of salt in comparison'."
I dunno. Think it's kind of harsh to attack someone for what might be a legit issue, even if it's being presented in a slightly ludicrous way.
I know this because he doesn't have a uterus
but 'I do think men can have periods without bleeding,' totally removes any legitimacy he may or may not have.
Totally unaware and he could have totally said it a different way. Shame on anyone for making this in to a 'story' as well really.
fucking shit cunt
Would he a very strange thing to make up
Check your privilege then.
to a person who really wants to have periods.
The terminology might be a bit naive, but hormonal syncing does have *some* basis right? and endocrinology is fucking complicated.
Pretty grim to immediately jump on it as an excuse to ridicule/shame the guy ..
HE DOES NOT HAVE A PERIOD
if so, is that reason enough to insult him?
You've just finally hit puberty
"I think it's a psychological thing because we're so close, we feel the same emotions."
He's obviously not having a period in the same way you do, it's obviously psychological, and DiS has traditionally been very sympathetic to such things in the past. Why this bigotry now?
going around saying stuff he feels, the prick.
partner is pregnant?
This does not a period make. When he then claims to have actual menstruation "just without the blood" and clearly believes that this is actually possible and that we should take him seriously, then yes, that is kind of reason enough to insult him. But more than that, I, as a period-having individual, find this whole thing incredibly insulting, as should anyone with even an average amount of intelligence and knowledge about How Stuff Works.
"Getting the terminology" wrong is just miles off the mark. He's making shit up in order to, what? Come across as an attractively emotional guy with a profound understanding of what women go through? Just to get attention? Does he seriously believe what he is saying and doesn't understand how essentially wrong he is about everything? If the latter, then that is genuinely cause for concern.
I genuinely can't really understand how anyone is defending this. It's such utterly ludicrous bullshit that I'm just really having trouble putting into words how many levels of wrong I find it to be.
Or should I Google it?
I realise I'm not formulating this all that well and it's because I honestly find it difficult to have to describe *why* this is such bullshit.
"DiS has traditionally been very sympathetic to such things in the past". Are you kidding me, this kind of thing has always gone down in flames on here, as rightly it should
Having a period requires a uterus and a vagina. This man has neither. And if he did, this would be a non-story: "Person with uterus and vagina has period".
and that the guy is making this up for nefarious reasons...
Hormonal cycles and imbalances are complex, so is mental health, so are human relationships, so are human motivations, you obviously know all of that ... so why so keen to attack and simplify?
but if you can't handle me at my best...
Just wants to bang her, doesnt he?
He's not having a period. But if he's experiencing a phenomenon, or approximation of it usually associated with another gender and wants to identify with it, isn't that his prerogative in these genderfluid times?
babes do tend to get pretty moist when I pretend to menstruate
we should do a hoax on here and get on Newsbeat
And of course, as I said above, he might actually believe what he is saying in this article. But part of what is making me angry here is that I'm actually being asked to explain why a person who does not have a uterus or a vagina cannot have a period. You'll notice he doesn't claim to have pains that "might be similar/remind one of a period" but that he is claiming to actually have a period. Just without the blood. And without the body parts that are actually required to have a period.
1) Having a period, in and of itself, is not something to strive after (as if it's something that can just be "obtained" anyway), although obviously for people who want to get pregnant it is a necessary evil.
2) A man/person who does not possess a uterus, ovaries and vagina but still claiming to have a period (even "suffer" a period!) seems to me to somehow make light of something that is a real issue for every woman in the entire world. He says something about him "just not being used to it", but for all the girls and women I have ever discussed the business of period-having with, it's not like it gets any easier or less painful or less gross just because you somehow "get used to it".
3) A person having a period is not some kind of freak-show headline thing to be written about in tabloids as a huge sensation. Even if it is a person who is ACTUALLY having a period, rather than some unspecified stomach pains and/or emotional unstability. It also somehow seems like it's only ok to publically speak about periods when some boy is claiming to have a period, even though it is literally physically impossible????
4) A PERSON WITHOUT FEMALE REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS LITERALLY CANNOT HAVE A PERIOD. WHY DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS TO LITERAL GROWN-UPS. Again, I am fairly confident in asserting that this person is biologically entirely male, as – again – otherwise this would be a non-story.
What am I missing here that makes people question me about getting worked up over this as well as to some of your reactions to this? My first comment in this thread was literally just a "wtf" comment but the longer this thread goes on the more worked up and fed up I get.
Where is DD and georgiabeth and wishpig when we need them, huh
So you're saying certain identifications are out of bounds due to the sex you were born then? Sounds a bit regressive.
He is literally saying that he actually has a period. No more, no less.
Genderfluidity is great but this story is nonsense. If you do not have female reproductive organs then you simply do not have a period. PERIOD. (See what I did there!!?!?!?)
as he lives with 3 girls
He said "I suffer from sore ears"
He can GO FUCK HIMSELF*
*im on my period so I'm obviously soooooo moody and angry with everyone
Talk to you soon.
We don't have that information about him, and we shouldn't expect it, so seems a bit mean to just assume he's dicking around in the national press to make light of periods.
like moodiness, crying, anger. There are just stereotypes of women on periods but doesn't actually apply to anyone. I'm moody, angry and cry the whole month through!
EVEN IF YOU ARE A MAN!!!!!!
There is not even the vaguest hint in the article that this dude might be transgender or genderqueer or anything else in the direction of not identifying with his biological sex and given gender. This story is about a cis man claiming to have a period.
Also no matter how non-traditional he might be about his gender, the fact remains, as I have stated about a billion times in thread so far, and will indeed keep repeating until I'm not being asked to explain it anymore: as long as he does not in fact have ovaries, a uterus and a vagina, he is literally not having a period, bloodless or otherwise. THAT is what this story is about, not about identifying as a different gender (and gender is different from sexual/reproductive organs, in case you hadn't noticed).
he lacks the requisite reproductive organs in order to have a periods, he can suffer sympathy pains, changes in moods hormonal fluctuations but he can't have a period. It's really not that complicated.
fair play though with your contributions we can probably get a century out of this one
I don't think anyone would argue that he can have a period in the strict sense that you describe.
I suppose I am getting stuck on the idea that the guy is claiming to experience periodic symptoms that align with those associated with mensuration, has described his point of view and is getting slammed for it.
Which seems uncharitable.
If he had said 'period-like symptoms' or 'periodic hormonal fluctuations leading to physical manifestations closely associated with menstruation' would that be OK, or better? - i
On your points about it denigrating or making light of female experience, I'm obviously not best placed to feel that, so fair enough. But devil's advocate for a second? how we can know it is making light, given our collective inability to actually know what he experiences or the severity of it?
As for your final question, I'm not even sure if I think it's *him* making light of it or the way it's being presented through the article that does it. Probably the combination though.
like it's not going in. I've already agreed with that. What I'm saying is that you're so hung up on this word when we don't have any idea about whether anything in your first paragraph applies to this person.
Speaking for myself, I think a lot of the desire to give latitude in situations like this is a fairly instinctive push-back to the the way that the internet reacts to misspeaking, youthful idiocy, flippancy etc with disproportionate anger and massed insult, desire to make an example of someone, get someone sacked ...
which is probably not really relevant here, and also probably fucking frustrating when it is an issue you are genuinely annoyed by. Appreciate the engagement though, cheers, much better than *google it*.
there are lots of reasons he might not want it explicitly stated in the article.
you're too late pal s_z is all over this one
and thanks for actually taking in what I'm saying :)
I used to suffer from PMDD, which is an extreme batshit form of PMT, so I feel I have sufficient locus standi to be absolutely outraged, but I'm just not becausem apart from some clumsy phrasing (surely for trolling porpoises), I don't think he is really trying to EQUATE his experience with menstruation, right?
anyway, what a silly sausage.
But if you heard a MtF transsexual say 'I feel like I'm having a period', would you be so keen to rush them down and say they don't have the bits required. If it turns out to be Dapper Laughs' next publicity stunt then fine, I'll issue a full and frank apology but you know nothing about this person's motivations for going to the national press with this.
I know you said I didn't need to keep repeating it, but here we are
It's not about someone coming out as trans or being genderfluid or whatever. Which is why I'm not discussing that. It's a different discussion.
But he is saying that he is actually having a period. Without the bleeding. And without the reproductive organs that would cause one to have a period.
here's one thing though, in the article the chap uses the term "male period", the main issue that most people seem to have picked up on is that he's equating a hormonal fluctuation with a different, almost entirely different biological process.
Your point doesn't make sense because it's disregarding what's actually written in the article in favour of a thought experiment which seems to have no roots in reality.
that most men have cyclical hormonal shifts (and some are more suggestible than others) which might feel like a period-like phase to them, but if he really thinks he is following an actual menstrual cycle (or the real equivalent of), then what a drongo.
the whole mental illness/psychosomatic side of it.
you admit you're wrong about this whole thing?
all I suffered was the eternal pain of being told to buy toilet roll at least weekly when I'd used about three sheets and getting told off for not pulling my weight in the toilet roll buying department of household chores. It never figured in my trips to the local co op. 90% of shits take place at work. I mostly shit at work. I now live with a males and we havent even finished a roll in a month. That is why the toilet seat is left up. It's a subtle act of defiance.
Obviously a person who does not possess ovaries, a uterus and a vagina CAN ACTUALLY have an actual period. Thanks eric3 for pointing out how ridiculously wrong I've been!
For his male period.
using british tax payer money