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8 years for killing two people?
I think the sentence should reflect what you did, not what the results of your actions were - you don't control that. I mean, I don't think someone who drove 120mph while pissed and having a wank, but was stopped before they could kill anyone should be punished differently from someone who does that and then accidentally kills somebody.
He was a complete prick and deserves to be punished severely, but he's not a murderer. 8 years seems about right to be honest, although he won't serve all of that, so maybe not.
and try really hard not to kill anyone.
or while he's serving it?
I wouldn't have a pinch of remorse if I were to let this creature get tortured to death.
What's your point?
and it's only wrong if someone's unlucky enough to get hurt.
i'm beginning to think he's an idiot
He's alright. I like him. He's good at winding peeps up!
that story makes me despair
but if you aren't then you're an utter diddy.
ones that aren't stupid, selfish cunts.
there's nothing more annoying than a drink-driving apologist
mister ' me and my friends do it so it's ok'. ur actually making me pretty angry now with your attitude and i'm usually pretty detached about the shit that's spouted around here
hand eye co-ordination, stuff like that. i could drink 4 pints one night and be perfectly fine, the next night the same amount and be slightly unbalanced. and it can make you sleepy. your attitude - 'i can drive fine when i've had a few' - is probablythe same attitude 90% of lethal cases had when they got into their car
the chances of hitting some one may be 100,000-1. it'd still be an incredibly irresponsible thing to do
are you actually taking the piss?
and certainly doesn't outweigh all the scientific evidence that alcohol does affect reaction times etc. Fact is drinking alcohol does significantly increase the chance of causing a lethal accident, even if it is only by a small amount (which im not at all saying it is) that is still too many when you are talking about ending other peoples lives. You are unnecessarily opening the door to the possibility of killing someone, for the sake of your own conviniece or enjoyment. If you really do believe what you are saying you are fucked in the head.
but why actually actively make a decision to increase the chances?
someone killed by a drink driver know you are the same as the people responsible
drink-drivers on the other hand, there seems to be a lot of seemingly intelligent people who make excuses for it. it mystfies me
to state that people who drink copious amounts of alcohol, and then drive a machine capable of killing lots of people, are fucking numpties.
calling some one self-righteous is the oldest cop-out in the world. it's pretty pathetic
but i don't remember your argument being quite so retarded as it is here. fail
just because you arent aware of how your judgement is impaired doesnt mean it isnt, im sure most drunk drivers who kill people think the same, how would you feel if you killed someone?
obviously. You are either being a wind up merchant or a despicable human being
or did you tell me before on these boards that one of your friends died in a drink-driving accident
was pretty much the same argument we're having now.
it's nice to know you 'use' stuff like that to try and win arguments
if you were to take a cross section of the population and compare a group of people who never drink and drive and compare it to a group of people who do, that the group of people who do drink a drive cause a greater number of accidents, it is significant if the difference between the groups is too big to be down to chance differences between groups and you can infer that it is down to the drink driving.
On average people who drink drive kill more people than those who dont drink drive.
Just because you or your friends havent had an accident doesnt change the fact that you are more likely to.
even a tiny increase of likelyness adds up to thousands of unnecesary deaths on a national scale.
a complete cunt aren't you
why any of you give this guy the time of day
you come across on here as a really selfish, ignorant nasty piece of work and this has not changed over time
it doesn't take a psychologist to figure out why
in their own self interest. Yes sober drivers kill people too, but drunk drivers are more likely too and are responsible for that decision to become more likely to.
most of us just wanna go about our business without all this over the top raunchy madness.
and i cant quite amakre sure i reply in the first thing and i was going to make a poinr but ARNOLD SCHWATZENEGGER
but I'd wager that the winding people up aspect of the argument is a happy little coincidence
whether it be one sip of a beer or driving the next day. What constitutes "an increasing risk"? At what point is anything in your blood stream going to affect your driving skills.
I'm actually with Pigfoot here because I think that most of the people on here don't actually drive, or don't live somewhere where having a car is a necessity.
I've driven drunk lots of times, but I, like Pigfoot, can still drive well.
One time we went up town for my birthday, got completely cunted and my friend Steve drove us home (2 in the boot, 4 in the back, 3 in the front) only by the virtue that he had only had 5 pints. The rest of us had pills and so would not even think of being so irresponsible.
5 pints though, that's fuck all really unless you've had nowt to eat.
For balance, I was once hit in the side by a woman with 8 kids in her car, surely that is more dangerous?
oh but NO, just like speed, we can PROVE that you have had alcohol. We can't prove that it affected what happened but by god it's the law so it has to be correct right?
pathetic, just like everyone can die from pills because the one person you hear about, Leah Betts, her parents are always in the news.