Italics, bold, emoticons.
I don't know how to use italics or bold lettering on this forum, and I don't want to know; neither do I know how to use those stupid "emoticons".
Occasionally it is necessary when writing to be able to use italics or bold lettering, but only in brief documents, usually of a business or legal nature.
In normal prose, whether that be an essay, a report or a letter (and that includes forum contributions), italics and bold lettering should not be used. Their use is symptomatic of laziness; the use indicates that the writer is incapable of expressing a view using language and has to resort to an idiot's aid to expression.
The argument for emoticons is that they allow the writer to highlight an emotion expressed in a piece of prose that may not be readily apparent to the reader; this particularly applies to irony. However, again, better use of language would make the use of emoticons redundant.
Other lazy effects include the use of capital letters to imply shouting, (there exists the exclamation mark), elongated words with repetitions of letters to imply emphasis usually accompanied by irritation, injectives, (an injective is an involuntary part of speech and should never be used except in quoted dialogue), and over-use of onomatopoeia.
Occasionally it is necessary when writing to be able to use italics or bold lettering, but only in brief documents, usually of a business or legal nature.
In normal prose, whether that be an essay, a report or a letter (and that includes forum contributions), italics and bold lettering should not be used. Their use is symptomatic of laziness; the use indicates that the writer is incapable of expressing a view using language and has to resort to an idiot's aid to expression.
The argument for emoticons is that they allow the writer to highlight an emotion expressed in a piece of prose that may not be readily apparent to the reader; this particularly applies to irony. However, again, better use of language would make the use of emoticons redundant.
Other lazy effects include the use of capital letters to imply shouting, (there exists the exclamation mark), elongated words with repetitions of letters to imply emphasis usually accompanied by irritation, injectives, (an injective is an involuntary part of speech and should never be used except in quoted dialogue), and over-use of onomatopoeia.
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waaannnnkkererer!!!
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Poor traynor
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Italics can often be good for subtle emphasis of a key word or phrase. Bold rarely works that well.
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"A Lesson A Day", by JD Traynor. i can see it now.
:)
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(*?! as illustrated in the sentence above)
;-)
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And for me, personally, though I abhor its usage...I use emoticons periodically myself. The reason I do this is to re-emphasize that I'm joking, I'm being sarcastic etc.
I used to hang out on another site for a time. We were fairly familar with one another but still with the anonymity the internet provides. So I'd say, "show me yer tits" or something lewd like that thinking it's a joke, right? We're 8000 miles apart, we've never met, never gonna met (probably), and I couldn't possibly be seriously. Well, without the little emoticons this little group (some anyway) found li'l old me offensive. And I could only apologize so much before I found it more expedient for all involved to just say, Later! (This group by the way, makes DiS look like sensative pussies. So go figure yer humble ORain became the object of their wrath. But ultimately I had to say, Thanks, Fuck You & Good-bye.)
BTW, Billy Corgan uses emoticons. Wanker! ;-)
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You don't really seem to have grasped the idea of using language appropriate to the medium, do you. The message board isn't an essay-writing contest, it's a conversational medium. The less serious the conversation the less appropriate it is to write like a particularly pompous english teacher.
I'll agree with you on bold text though, usually looks a bit naff.
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What it's called is besides the point anyway, people are clearly using it as a social medium in a quite natural way, so that's what it is.
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You don't ever really manage any graduation in tone in your posting you know, even with this incredible command of language you seem to congratulate yourself with.
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This is a forum, not a chat room. It is for discussion, not for conversation.
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Troll.
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By the way, what's your favourite dancehall artist?
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As for dancehall I'm just starting to get into it at the moment, hence asking for suggestions the other day. so mostly fairly obvious stuff that you'd probably slag off. Beenie man, vybz kartel, macka diamond, some more grimey/garage crossover stuff too. Am looking for older stuff too though, have been told to get some soul jazz compilations.
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The Soul Jazz compilations are a good idea.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
'people who affect a deliberately inflammatory persona in order to provoke a vehement response from other users.'
Really it's just something whose usage you get a clear feel for if you spend time on message boards. In your case I think most would agree with me. Most of the threads you start appear to be aimed at winding people up and patronising people. If you don't intend to wind people up then why do you use patronising language? there's no need for it otherwise.
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If you were interested in starting sincere debates, as opposed to winding people up, then you'd drop the patronising tone.
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You've made a good contribution.
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i try.
wow. it's not often that i get to be this pedantic. it's great! :)
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thus the answer would be an explanation of how you do dare to do so.
like, um, not giving a fuck?
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Even though I am rising to the bait, mainly cos I'm avoiding work.
You seem to've contributed some interesting and civil posts elsewhere though, so I wouldn't say you're a complete troll. It's just the threads you start telling people how they ought to be think/act in a patronising tone.
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Why bother to write yet another long, preachy and boring post?
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:-S
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Just stiring things up on purpose, about using italics and bold, you must be a very brave boy.
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not all of us have enjoyed the benefits of a top flight education. not all of us have an enormous vocabulary. hell, some of us may even be dyslexic. does this negate our opinions and experiences?
i'm more interested in the ideas behind someone's post. and in the intent of their words.
the most beautifully written words can still, ultimately, mean nothing.
by belittling those who are not able to articulate themselves as well as perhaps you might like, then is there not a risk that the most marginalised in society are just marginalised further.
the educated middle classes have always had a voice. more to the point, they've always had the confidence to make that voice heard.
i'd rather open my ears, and my mind, and hear what everyone else has to say.
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That is certainly true, I have no disagreement with that. But, a lot of the modern use of language is not due to a lack of education.
"the educated middle classes " Why not just say the "educated". Are you drawing an analogy between coming from a working-class background and lack of education?
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i'll admit, as someone who had frankly fucking awful education (till the age of 16 anyway. my senior school was an inner city dump, badly funded, run by demoralised staff who primed you for a life flipping burgers etc) i'm probably a bit knee-jerk on the class thing, so i apologise for that.
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how is use of exclamation marks in any way less a crime against the use of language than italics or suchlike?
and no, you cant express irony using just language, without completely altering the effect.
and the use of, like, injectives is a thing called characterisation.
tit.
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In a fiction novel the author might be able use "blah,blah,blah," he exclaimed, he said sarcastically, he said -however -- to convey the emotion behind the words. Likewise, I'd be a right arse if I started talking in the third person, or if I used "I say with irony," instead of the simple winky. Plus, ain't my posts long enough already! ;-)
As for injectives. Well, sometimes they're even OK in a writer's narration, certainly. As are incomplete sentences and so on. I'd caution some of yous however, that for the best results whenever breaking the standard rules, is to know the rules (me included). I think Mark Twain said that about James Fenimore Cooper before he blasted his Mohicans novel. But I digress.
I've said this before and no doubt will say it again. On the whole, the group of kids here would make any parent proud. Besides having generally outstanding taste in music - which is foremost of course! - these young (and old too) DiSers are the brightest, most articulate group of rag-tag hooligans I've ever had the pleasure.
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ahaahaha!
I shoulda jus' said, "Traynor, yer being a fuckwit" too.
ahahaa!!