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New album and film... Sep 9th apparently...
Excited about this.
got a good feeling about this one
I thought Push The Sky Away was one of the best things I've heard in ages. So different but so him. Very excited for new stuff.
Push The Sky Away was absolutely brilliant. I've found it difficult to listen to him recently though after his tragedy, it gets me down too much. Certainly amazing that he's been working again.
and I feel like he's been in decline for years but all the same, got a lot of time for him. Maybe it'll be good.
It will be hard to avoid slightly ghoulish when it comes to listening to it though. Everyone will be picking apart the lyrics and looking for references to the tragedy.
Used to be a massive, massive fan but it's years - 12 to be precise - since he made a record I've enjoyed. Fingers crossed for the new one.
and pre-release 'screening' of Skeleton Tree here: http://nickcave.com/films/one-more-time-with-feeling/
so Sufjan's 'Carrie and Lowell', right? a devastating and beautiful piece of art, borne of personal tragedy. people taking immense pleasure from something that came to be from the death of a brilliant artist's close relative, ultimately.
the guy who posted in the thread about Nick Cave's son passing, he crossed the line. at this point, though, it is inevitable that this record will be inseperable from Cave's grieving process, and with his track record, it's a good bet he will have sublimated his feelings into something truly powerful and moving.
maybe fydb's wording could have been better, idk, but we are all anticipating something monumental, here. this is a thread started in anticipation of the new Nick Cave record, we all know what it's going to be about, and yet we look forward to it.
it's the exhaustive obsession with detail that internet response subjects everything to that makes this feel so unaccustomed.
not so sure the reaction will be like that, though. not like, say, a Boards of Canada album where people are feverishly picking over what it all means. I reckon it'll be a bit more solemn and respectful in this case.
It's just so lovely.
Nick Cave is choosing to put this out there. I imagine there's an element of honouring the lost family member through art as well as dealing with grief in the way which works for him. He wants us to hear it.
What makes music so special is the way in which it evokes and engages with an emotional response or connection, whether that's a 'primitive' joy of dancing or the complexities of grieving.
I guess what makes it feel more ghoulish than Sufjan is the nature of such a shocking event compared with Sufjan exploring his relationship with his mother over the course of his and her lives.
As noted on this forum, I think Carrie and Lowell is my favourite of the decade so far. I don't think it's perverse to engage with or even to look forward to an album which deals with grief. I hope for Nick Cave's sake that it's a fitting tribute and has helped him work through an awful period.
Can't wait to hear the album, but hard to listen objectively with the personal tragedy he's gone through.
If as an artist he chooses to deal with his grief explicitly in his art it's absolutely his right to do so (and equally his right not to). If he does then the art takes on its own life to be analysed and, yes, 'enjoyed' by the rest of us. So long as we're not ghoulish about there's no problem with that.
A difficult but probably ultimately rewarding listen. Musically, it feels like a black mirror to Push The Sky Away’s sort of astral (but largely contented) soundscapes.
It’s not a listen-once-and-get-it kind of album but there are some breath-taking moments, mainly of subtle beauty or lyrical brilliance. Ellis has completely excelled himself.
Obviously impossible to listen to without thinking of the tragedy that preceded it, which will probably make it an album for a certain kind of mood.
That said, something about it feels perfect for the changing of the seasons.
Did anyone watch the film? I didn’t and now I’m kicking myself.
Stark, powerful and incredibly moving.
Stunning that he addresses the tragedy (albeit poetically and allusively) in the very first line.
Musically it's the most interesting record he's made in ages - much sparer than usual Bad Seeds records, with lots of electronic textures we've not really heard from him before.
Have a look on the website onemoretimewithfeeling.film.
was written before apparently.
I think that just makes it even more chilling.
Of course the decision to start the album with that line was made afterwards
It sounds stark and the (new) rumbling keyboard effects are well suited to his general style. Really liked the album on 1st listen and I can see it getting better with more listens.