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just buy another chief

It is sixteen years old. That said, it is a great fucking record, and it'll get a remaster to fit it to your clever modern ears one day.

The guitar sound is so immense. I thought as this is a thread about guitar sounds I would post it in here.

Like you know the way you listen to Phil Collins or Peter Gabriel or Dire Straits and it just has that sound to it. Well that's Radiohead. It's uncool dad music, or at least that's what it's destined to become.

so do the smiths, new order, roxy music.
Radiohead have sort of a geeky aesthetic compared to them but are generally loved by the population and important enough to avoid becoming said "uncool dad music".

a 12 year old in 2025 may not like it but they wouldn't know any better until they were older anyway.

Great band, proper guitars, proper haircuts.

and absolutely none of them listen to roxy music. none of them.

a few have probably picked up the best of the cure after seeing them headline glastonbury or wherever it was.

i'm fairly sure the smiths and new order are still huge bands for teenagers discovering "indie" music, unless things have changed dramatically in the 5 years since I was 16.

you're probably right about roxy music though.

cus i sure as hell was 4 years ago, and so were my friends

maybe you're not giving angst-ridden kids in 2012 enough credit

If its of its era that's fine as long as the albums and songs have merit

I mean does it really? No, not particularly. Nowhere near as dated as the Marr jangle and there are new bands around now who do that anyway. The production style is maybe a tiny bit dated but music doesn't become 'uncool dad music' by virtue of its contemporary production aesthetics.

I'd agree, but then good production is pretty much a thing of the past ain't it?

are the two token I'm getting into alt/indie music bands for most kids. My sister is 14 and she listens to both all the fucking time.

is Lucky.

All the rest doesn't sound especially dated, not in the same way as, say, Grace by Jeff Buckley for example.

It's fitting that people are starting to worry about them sounding dated and uncool at the same time Thom Yorke decided to grow a Rossi ponytail.

'They're a good rock band'

16 year olds are definitely listening to all this 80s indie.

still better then half the shit out today

OK Computer might have been a little over rated when it was released, but it's still a great album.

still makes me tingle. Funnily enough I'm remninded of a Neil Hannon quote on how hearing it at the time made him feel like the guitar sounded vital again.

By the way... horrible surprise for you. Everything dates. I think most of the Britpop era has dated far more quickly. Also, think Radiohead make the music they do right now feeling this way themselves about their pre-Kid A output. What they do now has so much more subtlety of sound.

I actually think they could take a few tracks off of The Bends and Kid A and re-record them in a live setting and explore them in a way that'd be worth doing as an EP - Bulletproof, Telex, Talk Show Host would all work like that.

laptops are where it's at innit

Who cares what they listen to now anyway? Listen to what you want to listen to - I actually was listening to Kid A today and realized how less fresh it sounds now than when it came out. But, that's the way things go - doesn't mean it's not a good album.

That Dr Dre saw lead is so dated
That Bob Dylan acoustic guitar sound is so dated

Airbag IS basically the best guitar riff ever. Never get bored of hearing it or playing it.

Also spot on about Britpop. I can't imagine anyone disagrees though to be honest, I mean Blur's stuff especially. Some good songs but so of it's time it's ludicrous.

even put next to OK computer.

My Iron Lung for all it's great guitar work is let down by one of Thom's poorer lyrics and the affectation he uses with his voice.

Fake Plastic Trees - great song. But too torchy. Too obvious. With the rest of their songs, even their more poppier moments, there's so much more going on.

And I could go on.

Telex, Street Spirit, Bulletproof aside each track is weaker than most of the rest of their following output.

The Bends is a Radiohead guitar record with more rockers on it than any of their others (HTTF gets disqualified for having too many glitchy tracks shoehorned in) which doesn't really have a glaring weak track on it (maybe..) - and from that perspective one might call it their best. They'd be wrong though. Maybe their most rocky + cohesive.

Also a great album when one is in an angsty state of affairs. Very cathartic.

I'd like to investigate

different, I guess

it just sounds kind of bad taste, the effect on the paranoid android solo springs to mind (not got time to check)

Stuff from the 50s is in a key you can't even imagine.