Longest run of mediocre / poor albums before calling it quits...
I'll start with Oasis, commercial and critical peak with (What's The Story) Morning Glory? and then five albums of diminishing returns thereafter. Put the dog down already.
Who else should have quit while they were ahead?
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My first thought when I read this was...
...REM. Maybe a bit harsh, but by their own very high standards everything from New Adventures In Hi-Fi was a bit disappointing.
Up was amazing!
And Reveal is fine. I don't think REM's problem was so much that they put out lots of shit albums as they continued to exist for way too long putting out the odd record - they had an amazing 80s and 90s and then they just kind of hung around for another decade and a bit not doing much
ahhh forgot about Up
Up was amazing. I still have issues with At My Most Beautiful though. It sounds like advertisement music.
REM is the wrong answer
more correctly classified as a late career wobble, which is a mighty achievement considering how so many dinosaurs slip into parody in their later years (Rolling Stones anyone?).
Up is one of their finest, but different.
The last 2 albums are not perfect, but still damn good records, with at least 3 or 4 songs that stand with the best of their work.
Reveal and Around The Sun on the other hand...
It's kinda a classic situation where you have to take those records separately. Those were pretty decent records, but not for the band that made Fables of the Reconstruction, or Automatic for the People, or even New Adventures In Hi-Fi.
That's just me, man. Also, if memory serves, even THEY hated Around The Sun.
Up is my fav of all time
No joke. But to be fair, every album after The Great Beyond isnt quite the same. Some songs are very good, but I always rated them as an album band and by that measure they did not succeed in the 2000's+. So I almost agree even though they are one of my favourite bands of all time.
REM is definitely the RIGHT answer
dig it
I agree.
Up had some fine moments, but it was definitely the beginning of the slip. I couldn't find a single thing to like in any of the following albums. It was a great shame to watch them fade away.
Around The Sun is the only total turd
which in a career that long is pretty good going
You didn't like Imitation of Life!
How is that even a thing?
Sorry but
Collapse Into Now is every bit as bad as Around The Sun, Peter Buck had just run out of ideas/enthusiasm and he'd spent the last three albums propping up Mills and Stipe. If anything it is more offensive than ATS because of the blatant rehashing of ideas and motifs from the more successful eras, because when they rehashed Pageant and Document for Accelerate it sounded okay but Collapse was recycling ideas that were Out of Time-Monster, badly.
ATS is hardly the disaster the band make it out to be
I think Buck was genuinely down on it because he was barely on it, but I always thought the band scapegoated it when they were trying to woo America again with Accelerate. The production on ATS is pretty sterile, but I there's a only a couple of songs that are properly rubbish, I think the last three records are much of a muchness.
It always struck me that REM lost their nerve a bit after Up, if you think how wilful their Nineties records were, I got the impression that it stung them when putting out weirder records actually lost them fans, so they stopped doing it.
The Strokes entire career to date?
Steady on ESA they haven't quit yet...
Their new album 'Comedown Music'...
...recently received a healthy 8/10 rating on obscure music website "Drowned In Sounds".
I have no say in what different individuals write in their reviews. I'm not so evil so as to prescribe opinions to people.
Wait, you're THAT Sean Adams?!?
This is new information...
no that's Evil Sean Adams
Thank fuck
Thought for a second that I may have crossed swords with the wrong guy there...
Rude, Strokes are great.
Is This It is still my summer album all these years later
haha.
Let me guess...
they turned you down for an interview back in 2001 when this lil' website was taking its first steps on the big new internet and you're still holding a grudge 12 years later?
meow
She doesn't post on the music board that often dude.
Sean, don't go all controversial on us!
i like Sean...
...but he needs to stop trolling his own site.
this is who I thought of first
then I thought, actually, this could apply to 95% of the bands out there.
Depeche Mode
Very slim pickings post-Songs of Faith & Devotion.
everytime I hear their new song I think of Keane
Nah.
Ultra and Playing The Angel are very good. Plus the new one is miles better than awful Sounds Of The Universe.
Playing the Angel is a corker
Manic Street Preachers
I thought Journal was a pretty good album
Postcards is a bit weak though.
haven't heard either.
Journal is probably their second or third best album
I wouldn't go that far
but Williams Last Words still sends chills
I'd say Razorlight...
but miraculously they haven't called it quits yet.
I should clarify
nothing wrong with imploring an existing band to quit!
There are so many bands who only made a great debut and everything else was very 'meh'
Maybe a separate thread for bands who only made great debut albums but carried on regardless?
Interpol.
Antics is almost as good.
And depending on who you ask, maybe even better.
I much prefer Antics tbh tbf...
I never connected with TOTBL like I connected with Antics.
Maybe it was just the time and place, but Antics is a dear old friend to me.
Not yet quit
but SFA haven't captured my imagination for a while, I don't even bother getting their new records any more. Everything after Rings Around The World, which was 12 bloody years ago now!
Phantom Power is one of their best
Phantom Power has one of their best songs on it (slow life)
but Love Kraft is fucking glorious. The last two were a bit hit and miss.
Have to disagree with SFA
All their albums ar good to great.
I've gone back to their recent stuff lately
And it's all pretty wicked. I think the trouble is they've had no fanfare, hype or OTT stage shows to go with the last few albums.
Was going to say Oasis
They're my favourite ever band for many reasons but I don't mind admitting the last 3 albums were average. There's some great tunes on them but they're let down by Liam Gallagher's input. Half decent but half finished. Only 11 of the last two were written by Noel and even then Liam only sang on 5 of them. 'Democracy' ruined them.
noel is the problem
generally the better tunes on those later albums are by members other than noel. shame the death in vegas sessions never worked out.
Nah
Tunes like Ain't Got Nothing, Love Like a Bomb, Meaning of Soul and Better Man are woeful and as for that Lennon sample in I'm Out of time, I'm just out.
yur
turn up the sun
a bell will ring
eyeball tickler
born on a different cloud
make a nice, non-Noel EP and all you really need from those latter LPs/singles.
btw Noel's stuff on DBTT - wtf went on there? farcical, barely concealed rips of the velvets, the kinks, shack, with the drowned turd of "let there be love" doing little to redeem things at the end. And Lyla - the worst single they ever did, bar none.
The Charlatans
Last decent album: 2001
Nooooo
You Cross My Path is a belter
Is that the one where they don't even bother to disguise the new order rip offs?
I think Interpol, Manics and SFA are all valid shouts
and it's clear that Billy Corgan is trying to win this accolade too
the new ones actually alright
about 14 years too late though
It's really not
and I say that as someone who spent 17 years believing they/he wasn't capable of a bad song... it's a revelation just how shit he can be recently!
Every David Bowie album after "Let's Dance" in 1983
obviously
^bollocks tbf...
15 year rule mate...
Artists/bands can only perform at a peak level for 15 years. Bowie's period = 1968-1983. Everything after that clearly isn't as good.
Band of Horses.
Downward spiral of disappointment since cease to begin. Ceased to be good.
Ha, good one!
It's because they're a Band of Boreses.
they should be Banned From The Boardses
Band of Beardses
alright, Gollum
='D
new order
post technique the albums have been poor with the odd exceptional track on them
albeit that you could make a very good album with those best tracks
muse
but then do you need to have had a non mediocre one to qualify
rolling stones
have they quit yet?
The answer is quite clearly Weezer
I would probably agree with this
but, I dunno, I find that they've crossed back over. I can't ever be bothered to listen to anything new they do, but their ZaNy AnTiCs keep me entertained. Music would be a duller place without the semi-regular batshit Weezer stories.
I was waiting for someone to say Weezer.
Hopeless, absolutely hopeless since (dare I say it) 'The Green Album'.
Say it all you want, it's true.
Weezer has made two amazing records, and SIX terrible ones. SEVEN if you count Death To False Metal.
Bad track record.
they havent crossed back over
rivers singing on a B.O.B track whilst wearing a red gilette is embarrassing.
and the fact that he now seems to insist on playing without a guitar and on a trampoline
green really was the last one that i can listen to as an album
love maladroit and red in pieces. still feel like they'd be considered one of the greatest bands ever if they'd split up after pinkerton. hoping after the tour where theyve been playing blue and pinkerton in full they go back to making the kind of music weezer do so well (ie no lil wayne collabs/songs called 'wheres my sex?')
Maladroit is great
Make Believe was utter garbage and I refuse to listen to anything that came afterwards.
I can't listen to any recent Weezer albums.
But that BOB song is brilliant!
only thing worse than the song
is the video. take a drink every time you cringe!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq-NShfefks
I prefer their later stuff.
Raditude > Hurley ...
I'm not buying a fucking word of this post, including
UGH
THE ENTER BUTTON STEPPED ON MY JOKE
I'm not buying a fucking word of this post, including "I" and "their"
I quite enjoyed Hurley
Supergrass
Diamond Hoo Ha is rubbish but then Road to Rouen is outstanding..
So, disagree..
Primal Scream
Decade of nothing much to care about since XTRMNTR and parts of Evil Heat.
New album More Light could bring back some magic though so will put them on a yellow card only for now.
To be fair, that's only two duff albums (following three great ones)
Plenty of bands go far longer than that.
oasis
They take some beating on this one. From the second album its all downhill. Making mediocre album after album .
Tindersticks
Incorrect.
Their last couple of albums are, in my humble opinion, terrific.
especially Something Rain...
...except for that inadvertent parody of an opening track.
don't be so glum, the opening track is amazing
glum? random assumption...
...i just find that opening track a bit try hard and cringeworthy. the rest is fantastic tho.
They had a run of 3 average albums
but only by their own sky-high standards. Many bands would kill to make albums half as good as Waiting for the Moon/Hungry Saw/Falling Down a Mountain.
Nah
They're just cranking them out to template. And surely it makes sense to judge a band's output relative to their peak?
Pavement
Eh?
No way do they fit this description
Hahahah
No.
BAN REQUEST.
Ah
Jimmy Eat World. Queens of the Stone Age to a slightly lesser extent. Foo Fighters for sure.
QOTSA only have Era Vulgaris
So not them
era vulgaris is better than Lullabies
I'd probably even say Songs for the Deaf as well but that's apparently controversial
nonsense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhSJtMoHJFg
Yep, probably Jimmy to be fair
Everything since Bleed American has been bland.
post-Futures Jimmey Eat World has been weak.
but then they've only released two shit(ish) albums since then. Ratio of 5/2.
Iron Maiden must be up there surely?
Grim returns since 1985 at best.
weezer
Somewhere In Time and Seventh Son are incredible you effin' wrongun
U2
Everything post-Pop has been excruciatingly dull.
Pearl Jam
Nothing good since Yield.
Man this thread is making me feel old.
I think you added 'since Yield' by mistake
Fair play
But there are at least 3 or 4 songs on Yield that I actually like, which is more than I can say for any of the boring tuneless bilge that followed it.
whoooooooooooooooooooooosgottabrainofjfkandwossitmeantousnahhhh
yeah
I think you misunderstand
Pearl Jam have never written a good song
This song begs to differ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eWaM9raO48
(I was there)
I may be alone
In thinking that backspacer is rather good.
Nope,
Also I happen to think the Self-Titled record is phenomenal if only because Army Reserve, Unempolyable and Inside Job are some of their best tracks ever, but then I think only No Code was a true dissapointment.
some terrible spelling there
Yeah, Off he goes
Is a tune though.
Vitalogy > Vs > No Code > Ten > Yield ...the rest.
And > With > That > I > Yield
Mercury Rev - after Deserter Songs
ok All is dream had it's moments but it also contained the seeds of their demise
All is Dream is better than Deserters Songs.
I fecking love Snowflake Midnight. Don't think it's had anywhere near
the praise it deserves.
Fun fact about me:
Mercury Rev are the fifth highest played band overall on my Last.FM, with exactly 500 plays. Each and every one of them is from when I heard Snowflake Midnight, and was entranced.
I never got around to hearing the rest, though I have Deserter Songs on my computer.
I really like The Secret Migration as well. People get hung up on
Deserters Songs, yes it is amazing and the other albums aren't as good, but they are still good albums. All is Dream is lovely as well.
Another vote for Secret Migration
being great. It's their pastoral album.
hopefully not Death Cab
But the last two don't fill me with much confidence....
Oh come now.
Narrow Stairs was fucking splendid.
the highs were as good as anything they've done
but the lows were pretty freaking bad. Codes and Keys was totally consistently good though, so i ain't worried
Cat Stevens
Mona Bone Jakon, Tea for the Tillerman and Teaser and the Firecat are three back to back perfect albums. Pretty sure it wasn't that great from then on... I may be wrong!
Clearlake
The Zutons
Sebadoh
Ash
Clearlake?!
They've only ever released 3 albums, the first two of which are stupendous and the third lost the way a little. Really don't think they belong here...
sebadoh have 7 good - great albums
and 2 mediocre ones
Bought everything Liars have ever done
Not overly enjoyed any of their output since Drums not dead though
:(
There's 2 or so great tracks on all three of those records
But as entire records, I'd give them all 6 or 7/10
You're alright.
At least you didn't start off with Sisterworld, like I did. I even bought the deluxe edition with the viewfinder artwork and extra disc of remixes. Oh boy. I have no idea what possessed me to pick up WIXIW but it's considerably more listenable than Sisterworld, which is somewhat damning it with faint praise as I do actually like WIXIW. Sisterworld, on the other hand, sits on my shelf and blows raspberries at me. And I shiver, chastised and cowed by its impenetrable fug.
That first single is a neck-snapper.
The moment that "Scissor" kicks in I feel like someone has hit me in the head with a sledgehammer. It's wonderful.
That album has some good tunes on it. I didn't care that much for it, but it was a Liars record, which means it's better than a LOT of great albums by other bands.
See, that's the thing
Scissor is *incredible*. Those ghostly overdubbed vocals, the sinister beauty of the melody and the outright skincrawling lyrics, then the sudden THRASH that totally disorients you like... well, yes. A sledgehammer to the head. It's when Scissor finishes that the problems start for me. It's like the band recorded the album below a flickering streetlight under the watchful gaze of some LA gang, standing just out of the light, who've told them if they so much as THINK about putting two notes together that might actually fit, they'll gun the whole band down.
You are fucking crazy
Sisterworld is an amazing record. Solid gold.
Ridiculous.
self-titled is pretty great I think
Probably a bunch of hip hop acts
Public Enemy. Eminem. Jay-Z.
Agree with Eminem and Jay-Z
But Public Enemy are a bit different. Had a run of six very good albums, at least two of them great, before they began to wind down.
First three Public Enemy albums are all bonafide classics
I felt that How You Sell Soul To A Soulless People Who Sold Their Soul arrested the slide - haven't listened to their stuff from last year though.
Nas
Let Illmatic = 10
It Was Written = 5
I am = 2.5
And so on.
Streak broken:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Is_Good_(Nas_album)
I'll just pretend somebody didn't actually write Tindersticks in this thread
and just focus on the ridiculousness of saying SFA (one of our greatest bands)and Manic Street Preachers (who've recently released the awesome Journal and the on form postcards). A lot of you are sad, fickle bastards.
Yeah, calling out Tindersticks is insane
Waiting for the Moon and Something Rain are incredible records. I'm starting to think Killing Joke might be a candidate for this though: Hosanna was average material stretched out far too long, and neither of the 'reunion' albums have been that consistent either (and as for the cover of the last one: christ, even Mark E. Smith would have thought twice about signing off on that one!)
Killing Joke?! Absolute Dissent was superb!
Really?
Few good tracks, but a lot that just coast. And the last one was just plain bollocks for the most part.
MMXII was brilliant
Genuinely surprised how good their output is at this stage in their career to be honest.
The Fall
Nah
Your Future Our Clutter is really great.
OK, I know what you're getting at
But I'll take shitty The Fall before any other crap going today.
Chapterhouse?
not a huge discography but dwindles, nontheless
Bit harsh
given that they only released two albums! First album is one of the great lost classics of the 1990s.
I have that album.
It's good but calling it a classic is a tad over generous.
Blood Music is great too
basically, there's nothing right about this call.
The Jesus and Mary Chain
Psychocandy and Darklands are great, Automatic is good, Stoned and Dethroned is passable-ish, and then I'm not really fussed.
Mary Chain...
They only had one album after Stoned & Dethroned.
Shit
In my head Honey's Dead was after Stoned... Those two and Munki are all pretty crap though so I'm sticking to my point.
Honey's Dead is easily my favourite album of theirs...
Automatic first, then Honey's Dead
actually, scratch that
I love them all equally (though I love Automatic more equally than the others).
Nah, they're all great
The Cure
Much as I love them, they could have packed it in after Wish and we wouldn't really have lost anything. Wild Mood Swings is absolute shite, The Cure is patchy at best, and 4:13 Dream is so badly produced I can barely listen to it. Bloodflowers wasn't bad but not worthy of being considered as a trilogy with Pornography and Disintegration, as Robert seems to think.
I had drafted a similar post as this
probably right at the same time as you were writing up yours.
Decided not to post, though, because in the end 4 bad albums over 20 years isn't a terrible record, particularly when you consider the Bloodflowers is on the right side of mediocre. But, yeah, I agree with all of ^that.
Maybe I'm just really forgiving, or tone-deaf...
But I remember loving Wild Mood Swings. I saw it super-cheap on cassette at a record shop in Aberystwyth and it was exactly what I needed at the time. Of the post-Wish albums, it's probably the one I like the most.
I'm not keen on it
But I really like Bloodflowers. I really, really like it in fact.
It's a lot better if you've got the version with Coming Up on it
and if you permanently erase all living memory of "Where the Seagulls Always Shit"
I do think post-Wish has been pretty patchy
but i've never understood Wild Mood Swings being as despised as it is. Lot's of lovely melodies, at least 2 great Cure singles and it's last song is one of their most heartbreaking and intense.
Electric 6
Just in terms of sheer number of pointless follow ups.
It's incredible how many albums they're, err...snuck out
I personally really enjoy Heathen Chemistry
The Hindu Times, Stop Crying Your Heart Out, Songbird, Little By Little, She Is Love, and Better Man are all great songs. And the other tracks on the album are far from bad. I wonder how much of the critical consensus around Oasis' tail-off comes from folk who simply haven't given their latter-day albums more than a cursory listen...
I really liked HC when it came out
I remember spending about 10 hours on Limewire downloading it when it leaked but haven't really given it the time of day since about 2003 just because there's been better music around. I dunno, I just think that if Noel had written more songs for Liam (that Liam could actually be bothered to sing - there's loads of great Noel demos floating around that are from Oasis days) they would have been better. I don't think Liam being a tiresome individual helps with how people seem them but, as I say, there's just a lot more out there so I can see why people won't have bothered.
Everything that Spiritualized have released after Ladies and Gentlemen...
a few good tracks but mostly mediocre
make that Pure Phase...
I would agree for this
if it hadn't been for Sweet Heart Sweet Light which came out last year, which was great
Magnetic Fields after 69LS?
All albums since appear to be theme-based exercises in novelty and self-parody, which I know is sort of the point of them (or at least I think it's sort of the point of them) but just really find it difficult to be moved by anything apart from a couple of tracks from 'i'
Totally agree
In fact I would say this is the case with Stephin Merrit in general, since the second Future Bible Heroes album and his solo ventures since 69LS have been suffering from the same malaise. The Gothies Archies album is an exception -- but only because nearly half of it (including nearly all the better songs) was recorded before 69LS.
it's clearly like the Rolling Stones or something
they never wrote a good album though.
Disagree
Everything from Aftermath up to and including Goat's Head Soup is good...
surprised no-one said manic street preachers
Arcade Fire.
Have failed since funeral. FAILED.
true. but they've only made two albums after it and haven't called it quits.
Fair call.
The thread has deviated from the OP towards 'good to progressively bad' albums without the quit bit. I wish Arcade Fire had stayed more.... humble. Recording thunder storms and honking great organs smacked of huge budget, must spend. It just lost some of the mystery along the way.
Did you listen to The Suburbs?
Yes, of course.
It has some nice tracks but its mostly a bore fest. Imo obv.
the only Arcade Fire album i like is The Suburbs
actually they've been extremely successful since then
Bullroar.
That band has barely made a bad song, let alone a bad record.
Bullshit.
Belle and Sebastian
Diminishing returns since The Boy With The Arab Strap.
disagree...
DCW and the Life Pursuit are fantastic albums
dare i say
these two are their best two albums...
cobblers but all so called "true" B&S fans says that....yawn
Fold Your Hands
is a good album. Nothing worth bothering with since then really. Catastrophe Waitress is an embarrassing car wreck of an album.
false.
Queensrÿche
WILCO
Since Kicking Television. Sky Blue Sky, Wilco the album and The Whole Love, are all dad rock to me.
"I'm a dad and I listen to Merzbow. Does that make Merzbow dad rock?"
- Jeff Tweedy
I love Sky Blue Sky.
Its just an expression
I was pointing out that dull 70s am rock that those records have. No disrespect intended
The wonderful thing about that quote
is that he's chosen the quintessential "dad noise" artist to make his point.
Morrissey since Vauxhall and I
Should have retire like he said he would do at the time
Just came on to post this
Much as the critics called You Are The Quarry a return to form...it wasn't. He needs to ditch that awful workmanlike backing band and work with someone a bit more interesting, like he did with Vini Reilly on his debut or Mick Ronson on Your Arsenal (his best solo album IMO).
Years of Refusal
most vital thing he did since Vauxhall
Bjork since Vespertine
WTF happened?
I would say maybe since Medulla
as that album has some really interesting stuff on it. But Volta was a disastrously dull album (with admittedly great artwork) and Biophilia was better but we're talking degrees, here. If I'm honest with myself, I haven't been blown away by a Bjork album since Homogenic. That said, I haven't missed an album yet, so she's doing something right. I just don't know what it is.
Funny thing is, if anyone else had made those records, they'd be classic.
Except Volta. That was dreadful for anybody.
I really like a lot of moments on Biophilia, but it doesn't GRAB me like it should.
I don't think so
boring is boring. She needs to get over herself.
Yeah Medulla was brilliant
She's tried lately to push the envelope and do something different. Hasn't been totally successful but I admire her desire not to conform. Both Volta and Biophilia have their moments.
I think they're disappointing
But mostly by HER standards, rather than compared to the competition. Everything up to and including Vespertine was absolutely incredible. All three albums since have moments of brilliance, but they are diminishing returns compared to what came before.
For me she's still very interesting as an artist. The ideas and productions sound great. But beforehand she used to wed all that to great pop hooks. Memorable and affecting melodies. That was distinctly missing in Biophilia, as much as I did enjoy it anyway.
Also, Volta has 'I See Who You Are' on it, which still kills me everytime those horns come in at the end.
Iggy Pop since Lust for Life
count also all the shitty Stogees records he made recently
Frank Black since Teenager of the year
actually since he broke up Pixies.
This is fun but i don't want to over do it.
Frank Black and the Catholics is great
Otherwise I'm right with you
Neil Young (since Rust Never Sleeps)
Talking Heads (since Remain In Light)
Oh sorry, missed the "calling it quits" bit
Please, Neil, just stop OK?
D:
Neil Young's fucking rad, leave him out of this
He is fucking rad
but his output since 1979 definitely comes under the banner of "mediocre/poor". He gets a lifetime pass for his 70s stuff, and I love the fact that he does whatever the fuck he likes - but the results in terms of albums for which I'd actually pay money are pretty dire.
Psychedelic Pill would like a word, blisters
the lyrics are so shit on psychedelic pill
makes it very difficult to call it a good album overall
plus even musically there's only one great track
Le Noise was stronger, as was some of his 90s output (Ragged Glory). the best thing he released since the 70s is probably the EP Eldorado I reckon.
I hope you don't have any aspirations to write for Uncut...
sorry, what are 'aspirations'?
This was in the wrong place and not aimed at you.
Soz.x
no sweat
Just noticed (and not aimed at you either) that Uncut is quite a good anagram. Perhaps "write for uncut" should become new euphemism for being a....
Cliff Richard
The Osmonds
Slim Dusty
Tricky
His first two albums (and Nearly God) were brilliant, but everything after has been disappointing at best. He's become one of those artists whose albums are always promoted as a return to form and never are.
In saying this though, I loved Murder Weapon and Time to Dance off of his last one
although the mixing in the bass levels on Time to Dance is freaking awful
Presidents of the United states of America
Great fun live, but after their classic debut album, bit mehhhhhhh dont care.
Love Everybody was really cool
But the ones after that are mehhhhhhh
They're like a less goofy They Might Be Giants, or a goofier Barenaked Ladies.
Massive Attack
Diminishing returns since Mezzanine (now a staggering 15 years old, which is kind of worrying).
Sonic Youth
lol