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Best New Order song?

robluvsnic [Edit] [Delete] 90 replies 14:28 March 19th, 2013

Probably tougher than any other band to pick a winner. Regret, Ceremony, Temptation ... and Blue Monday, of course.

So, are you able to step up and put your full weight behind one and only one?

NB: anyone who picks an album track will, of course, be laughed at.

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Blue Monday

No doubt.

oojimaflop | 19 Mar '13, 14:30 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Bizarre Love Triangle
  
  kmart @oojimaflop | 19 Mar '13, 14:31 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  al_la, Teepee_uk, Gorkys_Forever, brusma, and Mynci2000 this'd this
Rock The Shack

Laugh away upside man...

pentargo | 19 Mar '13, 14:31 | X | ^ This | Reply
- you've done me
  
  robluvsnic @pentargo | 19 Mar '13, 14:32 | X | ^ This | Reply
Ceremony

Fer sure

heartworms | 19 Mar '13, 14:33 | X | ^ This | Reply

Icarus-Smicarus, shinymcshine, Dan_S, Juninho10, 8stepstoperfection, vivmichiesrightfoot, deadonthestairs, and Tiresias42 this'd this
Sub-thread: New Order head 2 head

Blue Monday 88 v. Blue Monday original

Bizarre Love Triangle 94 v. Bizarre Love Triangle original

Temptation 7" v. Temptation original

robluvsnic | 19 Mar '13, 14:47 | X | ^ This | Reply
- I'm gonna trump your Blue Monday 88 and Blue Monday original
  
  with Blue Monday Hardfloor remix. Killer remix that one.
  
  Ricky_Ronco @robluvsnic | 19 Mar '13, 16:42 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - bm88 was weird
    
    the band said they just stuck as much extra stuff on it as they could & thought the remixers would take a load off & just leave the best bits, but they didn't remove any of it
    
    hibster @Ricky_Ronco | 20 Mar '13, 09:05 | X | ^ This | Reply
- temptation 7" v original?
  
  the 12 & the 7 came out at the same time din't they?
  they are both original versions, albeit very different
  would love to hear the intro from the 7" merged with the 12" version
  
  hibster @robluvsnic | 20 Mar '13, 09:03 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - My understanding is that the 12" was the original recording
    
    and it was edited and remixed for the 7" — which is kinda the opposite of what you'd normally expect (at the time, where the 12" was an extended mix of the original recording released on the 7").
    
    Wiki says this:
    
    "The two tracks [i.e. Temptation and Hurt] were recorded as 12" long versions and later edited to 7" by engineer Peter Woolliscroft using one of the first Sony PCM 1610 Digital editing systems available in UK. The 7" version is a more structured version with a commercial synthpop feel; the 12" is more chaotic with the emphasis on electronic rhythms rather than melody. The 7" version plays at 33.3rpm to accommodate its length of around five and a half minutes. Both versions bear the same catalogue number "FAC 63" despite these differences."
    
    robluvsnic @hibster | 20 Mar '13, 14:43 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - all their singles were recorded full length & then edited down
      
      but they were released at the same time, hence both original in that sense
      when there are as many versions as there are of some of these songs through reworkings to label the original releases as non original would be confusing
      
      other than the original 7" & 12" releases there's the secret machines remix, substance version, last night a song saved my life version, wild mix, total mix & temptation 98 versions for example
      
      hibster @robluvsnic | 21 Mar '13, 08:37 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - I think I was confusing the '87 version for the original 12"
        
        possibly because that wiki bit makes it sound like the 7" sounds very different to the 12" (and that is true of the 7" vis-a-vis the '87 version).
        
        robluvsnic @hibster | 22 Mar '13, 00:43 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        the 7" has a completely different start
        
        & is obviously a lot shorter than the 12", but is otherwise pretty similar
        check out the commonewelath games version though - think it's available on retro
        
        hibster @robluvsnic | 22 Mar '13, 08:17 | X | ^ This | Reply
The Perfect Kiss

lovelessrapture | 19 Mar '13, 15:05 | X | ^ This | Reply

friday55 this'd this
- love that they wanted to stick thats all folks
  
  from the cartoons at the end of the song but would have been charged too much, so went with frog noises instead
  
  track benefits from that decision, thanks warner bros
  
  hibster @lovelessrapture | 20 Mar '13, 09:06 | X | ^ This | Reply
Big fan

but Dream Attack is my fave

buffet_king | 19 Mar '13, 15:07 | X | ^ This | Reply

cliquester this'd this
Your Silent Face

Your Silent Face
Your Silent Face
Your Silent Face
Your Silent Face
Your Silent Face

guntrip | 19 Mar '13, 15:11 | X | ^ This | Reply

Rev_Kramer and no-class this'd this
- ^^^^This
  
  My all-time favourite song ever...
  
  Rev_Kramer @guntrip | 19 Mar '13, 21:14 | X | ^ This | Reply
Procession

hungover | 19 Mar '13, 15:16 | X | ^ This | Reply

bruised_blood and oldfamenewfame this'd this
- yeah, it's 'Procession'
  
  incandenza_ @hungover | 20 Mar '13, 01:35 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - I was agreeing
    
    it looks like I'm correcting you or something.
    
    incandenza_ @incandenza_ | 20 Mar '13, 01:40 | X | ^ This | Reply
"Age of Consent" anyone?

monoshono | 19 Mar '13, 15:16 | X | ^ This | Reply

warplp101 and Trev this'd this
- My second choice after Ceremony
  
  bornin69 @monoshono | 19 Mar '13, 19:49 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  iquitelikeradiohead this'd this
  - Yeah, Age of Consent
    
    Ceremony
    Temptation
    Your Silent Face
    Bizarre Love Triangle
    
    mofftarkin @bornin69 | 20 Mar '13, 09:31 | X | ^ This | Reply
"Age of Consent" anyone?

monoshono | 19 Mar '13, 15:16 | X | ^ This | Reply
Sub-culture

despite the out of time arpeggiator, which, intentional or not, is horrible.

New Order would have been one of the proper great bands if they'd actually had decent lyrics. Sigh.

calumlynn | 19 Mar '13, 15:18 | X | ^ This | Reply
- I love the rubbish lyrics
  
  accidental poetry. not poetic by intention, but so crap that it's, like, outsider poetry.
  
  or when a kid's rubbish picture makes you feel real emotions because it's so unpretentious.
  
  incandenza_ @calumlynn | 20 Mar '13, 01:37 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  hibster and heartworms this'd this
  - hahaha that's actually a great way to look at it
    
    calumlynn @incandenza_ | 20 Mar '13, 02:47 | X | ^ This | Reply
- would have been?
  
  they are!
  
  john robie ruined sub-culture
  
  hibster @calumlynn | 20 Mar '13, 10:15 | X | ^ This | Reply
Ceremony

Loads of other crackers though. Also have a lot of love for the always forgotten 'Mesh'.

vamos | 19 Mar '13, 15:23 | X | ^ This | Reply
Perfect Kiss

Bizarre Love Triangle
Your Silent Face
Leave Me Alone
Vanishing Point

ThirstyDog | 19 Mar '13, 15:48 | X | ^ This | Reply
Crystal

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wewerewerewolvesonce | 19 Mar '13, 15:50 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Nothing wrong with Crystal !
  
  Ricky_Ronco @wewerewerewolvesonce | 19 Mar '13, 16:42 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  robluvsnic this'd this
  - I mean to include it in the OP
    
    robluvsnic @Ricky_Ronco | 20 Mar '13, 01:23 | X | ^ This | Reply
Vanishing Point

Closely followed by Ceremony and Bizarre Love Triangle

megalithicrock | 19 Mar '13, 15:57 | X | ^ This | Reply
Vanishing Point

boothyfearssatan | 19 Mar '13, 15:57 | X | ^ This | Reply
Run

Ceremony, Temptation and Thieves Like Us all candidates though.

Frank_Hailstones | 19 Mar '13, 16:07 | X | ^ This | Reply
Lonesome Tonight

PiL_Session | 19 Mar '13, 16:17 | X | ^ This | Reply
Best and Marsh!

Sciflyer | 19 Mar '13, 16:52 | X | ^ This | Reply
Regret

Raanraals | 19 Mar '13, 17:00 | X | ^ This | Reply

Gorkys_Forever, sizeofanocean, HumanDog, and spiritofjazz this'd this
- ^easily this
  
  Gorkys_Forever @Raanraals | 19 Mar '13, 17:44 | X | ^ This | Reply
- this thread started because I've always said Regret
  
  but lately I've been coming back to Ceremony.
  
  And as soon as you waver just the tiniest bit, it suddenly feels criminal to neglect Temptation and Blue Monday... and then True Faith, Bizarre Love Triangle, Crystal, Fine Time...
  
  And then before you know it, you're thinking that Dreams Never End doesn't warrant such terrible neglect, and that's when you realize you've become a laughing stock because you're now considering album tracks as candidates for best New Order song.
  
  robluvsnic @Raanraals | 20 Mar '13, 01:30 | X | ^ This | Reply
Love Vigilantes

candyman | 19 Mar '13, 18:41 | X | ^ This | Reply

orangejuice this'd this
True Faith

FlintyFoxy | 19 Mar '13, 19:19 | X | ^ This | Reply
well it's Temptation isn't it?

The yearning and one of those songs that gently pulls your throat down and out your chest.

IncaInk | 19 Mar '13, 19:27 | X | ^ This | Reply

outspaced and CrispinAlexander this'd this
- which version, though?
  
  I can never remember which one is the one I like best. it's not the 7" or the 12".
  
  ...I think it's the '87 version.
  
  incandenza_ @IncaInk | 20 Mar '13, 01:46 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - Yeah, the '87 version is the best, I reckon
    
    robluvsnic @incandenza_ | 20 Mar '13, 02:30 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - the original 12" version is the best.
    
    it's more chaotic but that's part of the magic of it
    
    no-class @incandenza_ | 20 Mar '13, 02:37 | X | ^ This | Reply
    
    CrispinAlexander and hungover this'd this
    - in no universe is that version not their best song
      
      you people saying other shit are crazy
      
      CrispinAlexander @no-class | 20 Mar '13, 03:01 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - the commonwelath games version was pretty top notch too
        
        hibster @CrispinAlexander | 20 Mar '13, 08:38 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        mofftarkin this'd this
it's not my absolute favourite

but Everything's Gone Green never, ever gets the credit it deserves

no-class | 19 Mar '13, 22:01 | X | ^ This | Reply
- I'm also a big fan of this
  
  robluvsnic @no-class | 20 Mar '13, 01:33 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  friday55 this'd this
Dream Attack seconded

cliquester | 19 Mar '13, 22:12 | X | ^ This | Reply
hibster to thread

incandenza_ | 20 Mar '13, 01:39 | X | ^ This | Reply
- ok
  
  ceremony
  temptation
  leave me alone
  tpk
  age of consent
  hurt
  turn
  evil dust
  kw1 (aka ysf)
  & always had a soft spot for 1963 despite its lack of hooky round up a pretty good top ten for me
  though could easily have wftsc, regret, crystal, love vigilantes, sunrise, egg, mesh, vanishing point, here to stay & either the john peel session version of paradise from december 98 or the bounty mix of the same song as an alternate ten
  
  actually that session has an awesome version of isolation as well & the version of heart & soul at reading that year was really good if you want jd tracks
  
  hibster @incandenza_ | 20 Mar '13, 09:01 | X | ^ This | Reply
Bizarre Love Triangle

godisinthetv | 20 Mar '13, 01:41 | X | ^ This | Reply
A better question is: their best non-single song?

All The Way and Love Less are the answers.

vivmichiesrightfoot | 20 Mar '13, 03:37 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Age of Consent
  
  and Your Silent Face, surely?
  
  mofftarkin @vivmichiesrightfoot | 20 Mar '13, 09:28 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  yuggy this'd this
  - and Denial
    
    robluvsnic @mofftarkin | 21 Mar '13, 13:07 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Age of Consent
  
  bornin69 @vivmichiesrightfoot | 20 Mar '13, 09:29 | X | ^ This | Reply
All The Way definitely

up there. also Love Vigilantes and Mr Disco.

cliquester | 20 Mar '13, 04:43 | X | ^ This | Reply
Bizarre Love Triangle

wilykit | 20 Mar '13, 09:07 | X | ^ This | Reply

Mynci2000 this'd this
Regret

Mainly because it came out when I was 18 and carefree. And it was the first song the played the first time I ever saw them live at Reading 98 and it sent shivers down my spine. Still does.

Honourable mentions to Bizarre Love Triangle, Elegia, Temptation and True Faith (which seems rather underrepresented here)

RobOrchard | 20 Mar '13, 09:43 | X | ^ This | Reply
what's wrong with you people?

its clearly this :-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nsh2bK09t34

thesoundsofmymadness | 20 Mar '13, 10:17 | X | ^ This | Reply
- thankfully, I was able to close the tab before the audio started
  
  robluvsnic @thesoundsofmymadness | 20 Mar '13, 14:45 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - i'm sorry
    
    i assumed this thread was started by a new order fan
    
    thesoundsofmymadness @robluvsnic | 20 Mar '13, 22:24 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - not a new order fan as such, no.
      
      more just a fan of good music.
      
      robluvsnic @thesoundsofmymadness | 21 Mar '13, 01:22 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - i tuhink the laughing at album tracks thing
        
        gave away he wasn't a fan of new order
        
        hibster @robluvsnic | 21 Mar '13, 08:31 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        robluvsnic this'd this
        
        though, that's not to say that I don't love the New Order that I love
        
        robluvsnic @hibster | 21 Mar '13, 12:35 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        yeah
        
        but you should listen to more
        
        hibster @robluvsnic | 21 Mar '13, 13:37 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        besides some of the b-sides/obscurities
        
        Low Life and Brotherhood are the only albums I haven't listened to.
        
        robluvsnic @hibster | 21 Mar '13, 15:09 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        low life is my favourite one
        
        & brotherhood is a 4 out of 5
        but listen to low life first
        
        its well worth it
        
        hibster @robluvsnic | 22 Mar '13, 08:15 | X | ^ This | Reply
ceremony

might actually be the best song by anyone, ever.

blicky | 20 Mar '13, 14:51 | X | ^ This | Reply
- I often think this
  
  I also think it's one of the most perfect records ever - the production is amazing, the packaging is beautiful, it's just perfect in every way.
  
  bornin69 @blicky | 21 Mar '13, 16:04 | X | ^ This | Reply
Elegia (18 min version)

Your Silent Face
Ceremony
Temptation

Poke | 20 Mar '13, 14:55 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Very classy choices
  
  Probably my four favourites ( although my order would be different)
  
  bornin69 @Poke | 21 Mar '13, 16:05 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - Elegia
    
    was conspicuous by its absence so I stuck it at the top. I think my order would be...
    
    Your Silent Face
    Ceremony
    Elegia
    Temptation
    
    How would you call it?
    
    Poke @bornin69 | 21 Mar '13, 18:21 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - Ceremony
      
      Your Silent Face
      Temptation
      Elegia
      
      (Although on reflection, Age of Consent should be in there in second place)
      
      Where is the 18 minute version of Elegia to be found?
      
      bornin69 @Poke | 24 Mar '13, 14:38 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - I think it
        
        First appeared on the 'Retro' boxset in 2002 but also made it onto the more recent deluxe edition of 'Lowlife'. Anyway, listen here (the beginning really reminds me of Goblin which is kind of awesome):
        
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reAtzVjPxxI
        
        Poke @bornin69 | 25 Mar '13, 13:07 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        wasnt it only on the 5 disc version of retro?
        
        hibster @Poke | 25 Mar '13, 14:07 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        Ah yeah
        
        It was on that 'Rare' disc you're right. I don't actually own it but it seems near impossible to come by the 5 discer nowadays.
        
        Poke @hibster | 25 Mar '13, 14:15 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        It's apparently on the second disc of the Lowlife reissue as well
        
        But that's hard to get as well.
        
        Found it on You Tube though.
        
        bornin69 @Poke | 25 Mar '13, 15:14 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        was a surprise to see it back in the set
        
        when they started touring again in belgium year before last
        
        hibster @bornin69 | 25 Mar '13, 17:14 | X | ^ This | Reply
Procession

But way too many amazing songs to be totally sure on my choice...

patrick73 | 20 Mar '13, 23:01 | X | ^ This | Reply
Thieves Like Us

A moving epic made of neon and rain.

roquentin | 21 Mar '13, 09:50 | X | ^ This | Reply
Quite a few for Vanishing Point

I agree.

withakay | 21 Mar '13, 09:54 | X | ^ This | Reply
Perfect Kiss

The version that's on Substance.
Bizzare Love Triangle
Subculture
Temptation
Everything's Gone Green
Fine Time
Blue Monday
Crystal
Run

NeillyNeil | 21 Mar '13, 13:03 | X | ^ This | Reply
- so, in answer to the OP: no?
  
  robluvsnic @NeillyNeil | 21 Mar '13, 13:08 | X | ^ This | Reply
Blue Monday

easy to criticise because of its sheer commercial power. At the risk of sounding old, when it came out in '83 it turned a lot of ears and remains, (for me) unsurpassed.

midnightpunk | 22 Mar '13, 00:48 | X | ^ This | Reply
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