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albums disliked by the the band themselves

ithica [Edit] [Delete] 123 replies 09:35 March 15th, 2013

clumsy title but i think it makes sense.

i know harvey milk seem to think life... sucks http://exclaim.ca/Interviews/WebExclusive/harvey_milk

mogwai have always dissed young team but i think that's the recording more than the songs. and the version of summer, and obviously with portfolio.

more examples? i find it fascinating!

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There are quite a few albums that the band dislikes for some reason but which are my favourite of theirs

Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds -- Henry's Dream
The Church -- Seance

are two that spring to mind. There are others.

Usually it's some aspect of the production that the band decides they don't like.

robluvsnic | 15 Mar '13, 09:42 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Nick Cave said
  
  That Henry's Dream suffered from too much speed
  
  Murder @robluvsnic | 15 Mar '13, 10:25 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - He should start taking some fucking speed now
    
    Henry's Dream pisses over anything he's done in the last decade.
    
    ThirstyDog @Murder | 15 Mar '13, 10:31 | X | ^ This | Reply
    
    DaddyorChips, robluvsnic, Infinite_Jest, and morepricksthankicks this'd this
    - oh ThirstyDog
      
      fiddygent @ThirstyDog | 15 Mar '13, 10:35 | X | ^ This | Reply
      
      ThirstyDog, Royter-Hatfood, and El_Goodo this'd this
    - so false
      
      ThisTemporaryLife @ThirstyDog | 15 Mar '13, 11:29 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - and anything prior to it
      
      basically, Henry's Dream is the only one I'm ever inclined to listen to.
      
      robluvsnic @ThirstyDog | 15 Mar '13, 13:38 | X | ^ This | Reply
Beck - Midnight Vultures

Yesiamaduck | 15 Mar '13, 09:43 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Well, I mean, c'mon
  
  ThisTemporaryLife @Yesiamaduck | 15 Mar '13, 09:59 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Really?
  
  Man, that's one of my favourite Beck albums. :(
  
  bruised_blood @Yesiamaduck | 15 Mar '13, 11:24 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  stistermeve and stalecloud this'd this
  - Must be a Scientology thing that make him regret it
    
    One of my favourites also
    
    andres @bruised_blood | 18 Mar '13, 22:03 | X | ^ This | Reply
- it's the only one I bought
  
  I always thought his albums would be crap, then I caved & bought MV - I was right the 1st time. What a load of shit.
  
  theintl @Yesiamaduck | 16 Mar '13, 09:56 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - Well then try the others
    
    you silly person
    
    Yesiamaduck @theintl | 16 Mar '13, 10:39 | X | ^ This | Reply
New Order - Movement

The Smiths - The Smiths
Suede - A New Morning
Primal Scream - Beautiful Future/Give Out... (and I'm guessing Sonic Flower Groove too)
Tom Waits - everything prior to Swordfishtrombones
Scott Walker - everything prior to Nite Flights

ThirstyDog | 15 Mar '13, 09:51 | X | ^ This | Reply
- I really like Movement
  
  for the exact reason it gets criticised - ie. sounds too much like Joy Division.
  
  Icarus-Smicarus @ThirstyDog | 15 Mar '13, 13:52 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - the band didn't like the production
    
    rather than the fact it sounded like joy division
    they didn't like the way the joy division ones sounded at the time either mind
    
    hibster @Icarus-Smicarus | 21 Mar '13, 08:46 | X | ^ This | Reply
well

The Beta Band, their debut album

zahidf | 15 Mar '13, 09:52 | X | ^ This | Reply

colon_closed_bracket, Wooly31, lyserge, TheWza, and Lambchops this'd this
- When in actual fact, they should be most ashamed of their last album
  
  Royter-Hatfood @zahidf | 15 Mar '13, 12:18 | X | ^ This | Reply
Charlatans - Between 10th and 11th

despite the fact that we all love it

funkycow | 15 Mar '13, 09:53 | X | ^ This | Reply

ThirstyDog this'd this
ctrl+F Pinkerton

Wow guys. C'mon.

ThisTemporaryLife | 15 Mar '13, 09:55 | X | ^ This | Reply

bokonon, emmettcruddas, and automatik this'd this
- Yeah this is the most amazing one of them all
  
  The band's towering achievement, one of the best albums ever made...and the fuckers who made it don't even like it. Unbelievable.
  
  ThirstyDog @ThisTemporaryLife | 15 Mar '13, 09:59 | X | ^ This | Reply
- they've got over hating it now
  
  have played much more of it live - think they played all of it on a dedicated tour?
  
  alcxxk @ThisTemporaryLife | 15 Mar '13, 10:13 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  spiritofjazz this'd this
  - Sure, sure
    
    But it took well over a decade to get to that point. Up until then, Cuomo HATED the record. From the Wiki:
    
    Cuomo was embarrassed by the album's mixed reception and the confessional nature of its songs. On August 13, 1997, he wrote: "This has been a tough year. It's not just that the world has said Pinkerton isn't worth a shit, but that the Blue album wasn't either. It was a fluke. It was the video. I'm a shitty songwriter."[66] In 2001, he told Entertainment Weekly: "It's a hideous record... It was such a hugely painful mistake that happened in front of hundreds of thousands of people and continues to happen on a grander and grander scale and just won't go away. It's like getting really drunk at a party and spilling your guts in front of everyone and feeling incredibly great and cathartic about it, and then waking up the next morning and realizing what a complete fool you made of yourself." By early 2008, Cuomo had reconsidered the album, saying: "Pinkerton's great. It's super-deep, brave, and authentic. Listening to it, I can tell that I was really going for it when I wrote and recorded a lot of those songs."
    
    That band didn't make one perfect record - they made TWO. They shit on every ounce of good will after those two records, but they are so painfully great that we all forget a lot of the time that they made TWO masterpieces. And for a very long time, one of those records was considered an embarrassment by its creator.
    
    Can you imagine? Making a record that grew to be considered a flawless work of art... and you yourself couldn't stand it? How crazy is that?
    
    ThisTemporaryLife @alcxxk | 15 Mar '13, 10:57 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - Ooooohhhh hoooowww
      
      stupid is it!
      
      badmanreturns @ThisTemporaryLife | 15 Mar '13, 11:08 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - TBF it sounds like he was insecure about the lyrics
      
      as opposed to actually hating the album they created, his on insecurities probably got in the way as it was a very personal record.
      
      Yesiamaduck @ThisTemporaryLife | 16 Mar '13, 11:14 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - Pinkerton's nothing special. The Blue album is amazing, though.
      
      TheoGB @ThisTemporaryLife | 20 Mar '13, 15:26 | X | ^ This | Reply
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures. At least initially, I think. They hated Hannett's production (I'm not too keen on it either). I guess it must have grown on them, otherwise they wouldn't have let him do Closer.

The LAs?

Springsteen recently moaned about the 80s production on Lucky Town/Human Touch, although he said the songs were good.

At a gig I was at, Dave Gray said his first album was rubbish, which is daft as it's brilliant and all his later albums are rubbish.

fenella | 15 Mar '13, 09:59 | X | ^ This | Reply
- The production on Unknown Pleasures is one of the greatest things about it!
  
  Antelope @fenella | 15 Mar '13, 10:04 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  vivmichiesrightfoot, Wooly31, robluvsnic, Body_In_The_Thames, and heartworms this'd this
- Re: Unknown Pleasures
  
  I think they did dislike it briefly, but only because they hadn't liked how controlling Hammett had been in the studio and the way he'd mixed down everyone's instruments and added loads of FX, but I think they came round to the end results very quickly.
  
  lukowski @fenella | 15 Mar '13, 10:35 | X | ^ This | Reply
- about time David Gray got a bit of support on 'ere.
  
  forzaborza @fenella | 16 Mar '13, 10:57 | X | ^ This | Reply
P-p-p-pablo Honey b-b-by R-radiohead

Be Here Now seems to get shaded by the Gallagher's. Kraftwerk albums up to Autobahn?

Antelope | 15 Mar '13, 10:03 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Noel has always said
  
  something about he'll sign a copy for any fans who shove a CD under his nose. He reckons you'll get a tenner with his signature on it, and nowt without.
  
  Dunno if Radiohead ever actually dissed PH properly, more that they had already written some of the tracks off the Bends, which seems slightly mad to then go and record I Can't and Vegetable instead.
  
  StormsOnTheMoon @Antelope | 15 Mar '13, 12:44 | X | ^ This | Reply
Always wondered about New Order & Technique

For me it's their greatest album, the greatest album by anybody pretty much, but they stopped playing any of its tracks live after 1993.

ThirstyDog | 15 Mar '13, 10:17 | X | ^ This | Reply
- The one-two of Fine Time / All the Way is the best thing in their careers.
  
  vivmichiesrightfoot @ThirstyDog | 15 Mar '13, 11:46 | X | ^ This | Reply
- until very recently of course
  
  as they played round & round a few times last year (eg at ibiza rocks)
  it is more a technical thing for them rather than not liking the album, took them ages to reprogram the perfect kiss to fit the key barney sings in these days for example
  we'll see more of the older songs dropped in from now
  
  hibster @ThirstyDog | 21 Mar '13, 08:51 | X | ^ This | Reply
Dinosaur Jr - Bug

monkeyboyuk | 15 Mar '13, 10:20 | X | ^ This | Reply

japes, mfmcd57, and harman_kardon this'd this
- Wait, what?
  
  ThisTemporaryLife @monkeyboyuk | 16 Mar '13, 09:21 | X | ^ This | Reply
jonsi seems to hate valtari.

Jordan_229_2 | 15 Mar '13, 10:30 | X | ^ This | Reply
- I notice from their current tour
  
  that they hardly play anything off Með suð í eyrum við spilum endalaust. Which suggests they don't rate it, which is understandable.
  
  ThirstyDog @Jordan_229_2 | 15 Mar '13, 10:33 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - yes
    
    they played nothing from it when i saw them, but have been playing two from it on some dates.
    
    i think its more that outside of Ara Batur (which they probably can't play with the current set-up) it doesnt fit in the set they are playing)
    
    Jordan_229_2 @ThirstyDog | 15 Mar '13, 11:19 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - Thye play Festival nearly all the time
      
      but then it is the song most like their typical sound on that record
      
      Christophales @Jordan_229_2 | 15 Mar '13, 12:17 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - I was a bit disappointed to find that they don't play much of it
        
        I was hoping they'd play Inní mér syngur vitleysingur or Við spilum endalaust, I love those
        
        Schadenfreude @Christophales | 15 Mar '13, 13:43 | X | ^ This | Reply
- must be annoying for him then
  
  given that they're touring it at the mo (?).
  
  How can they be hating on an album that they've just made?
  
  StormsOnTheMoon @Jordan_229_2 | 15 Mar '13, 12:45 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - I think they're touring new stuff now
    
    Icarus-Smicarus @StormsOnTheMoon | 15 Mar '13, 15:30 | X | ^ This | Reply
- jonsi should
  
  hate his solo album instead
  
  maximus @Jordan_229_2 | 15 Mar '13, 14:05 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  hibster this'd this
- what a surprise
  
  I always thought they disliked gdu&$@!94uuJJS
  
  theintl @Jordan_229_2 | 16 Mar '13, 09:58 | X | ^ This | Reply
manic street preachers

dont like Lifeblood, and rightly so its a pile of shit. i read an interview with james dean and he said he didnt know what they were thinking when they made that album

fistyness | 15 Mar '13, 10:30 | X | ^ This | Reply
- clearly their best album
  
  aactv @fistyness | 15 Mar '13, 10:34 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - Lifeblood's brilliant
    
    I think if you strip away everything that came before it and look at it impartially, it's a brilliant album and that if it had been by any other band it would be considered a classic
    
    Antelope @aactv | 15 Mar '13, 10:35 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - ive tried,
      
      Lifeblood is the only album of theirs i couldnt actually find one song i like
      
      fistyness @Antelope | 15 Mar '13, 10:42 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - Solitude Sometimes Is
        
        Clear highlight for me
        
        automatik @fistyness | 15 Mar '13, 18:59 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        aactv this'd this
        
        Cardiff Afterlife,
        
        1985... Such a good Autumn/ Early winter album
        
        1986_and_all_that @automatik | 19 Mar '13, 01:25 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Lifeblood is awesome...
  
  You've just got to skip 'Emily' and 'Song for Departure' is all. The rest is gorgeous, Celtic-tinged Manics at their near finest. If they can't recognize the inherent beauty of something like 'Solitude Sometimes Is' then that's on them.
  
  Acquiescence @fistyness | 15 Mar '13, 10:52 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  chris_81 this'd this
  - I'd rather listen to it than This Is My Truth... now
    
    chris_81 @Acquiescence | 15 Mar '13, 11:13 | X | ^ This | Reply
    
    Sloame_Ocean this'd this
- I read something similar in Guitarist
  
  Said that he didn't understand the point of the band having a third mode/sound (the other two being the more 'punk' material, and the EMG/TIMT-style material). Nicky posted something on Twitter about wanting to go back to the unreleased material recently though, so he's softened to it somewhat.
  
  RobinPlaysChords @fistyness | 15 Mar '13, 19:05 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - It's better than 'Postcards from a Young Man' IMO
    
    chris_81 @RobinPlaysChords | 15 Mar '13, 20:46 | X | ^ This | Reply
    
    cliquester this'd this
Bad Religion - Into the Unknown

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Unknown_%28Bad_Religion_album%29

shucks | 15 Mar '13, 10:33 | X | ^ This | Reply
Tindersticks don't like Curtains much

Nor do they rate Hungry Saw/Falling Down a Mountain much either if their last tour is any indicator.

ThirstyDog | 15 Mar '13, 10:36 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Do they not like curtains?!
  
  Flipping love that album.
  
  splitterwill @ThirstyDog | 15 Mar '13, 10:56 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  lyserge, Royter-Hatfood, and calumlynn this'd this
- they normally only play the latest album pretty much in full and then a few 'classics' i think?
  
  Jordan_229_2 @ThirstyDog | 15 Mar '13, 11:17 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Always thought the one they hated was...
  
  Waiting for the moon.
  
  HumanDog @ThirstyDog | 15 Mar '13, 11:31 | X | ^ This | Reply
- curtains
  
  is their best album methinks.
  
  maximus @ThirstyDog | 15 Mar '13, 14:06 | X | ^ This | Reply
- i'm not sure you can judge how much a band likes/dislikes an album
  
  by how much they play of it on tour. E.g. Belle and Sebastian's favourite albums are Tigermilk and the Life Pursuit, yet they didn't play that much of either on their last tour.
  
  calumlynn @ThirstyDog | 15 Mar '13, 18:32 | X | ^ This | Reply
- i think they associate Curtains with how they felt at the time on a personal level
  
  because by all accounts thats a monster of a record
  
  andres @ThirstyDog | 18 Mar '13, 22:10 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Curtains is my favourite Tindersticks album by a street
  
  Trev @ThirstyDog | 20 Mar '13, 14:49 | X | ^ This | Reply
Midlake - Bamnan and Silvercork

It is a bit shit though...

Wooly31 | 15 Mar '13, 10:45 | X | ^ This | Reply
- ah no come on now it has some tunes
  
  yuggy @Wooly31 | 15 Mar '13, 19:14 | X | ^ This | Reply
The Divine Comedy - Fanfare for the Comic Muse

Not sure it really counts, though. It's more an early demo EP than a proper album.

chanticleer | 15 Mar '13, 11:13 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Oh, I like that one
  
  I didn't realize he hated it!
  
  ThisTemporaryLife @chanticleer | 15 Mar '13, 11:15 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - I like it too!
    
    He started performing 'Bleak Landscape' from it again a few years back but otherwise he refuses to let it become available or easily accessible.
    
    chanticleer @ThisTemporaryLife | 15 Mar '13, 11:19 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - I've never heard it
      
      but I understand it's more of an attempt to copy REM than sounding like what came after?
      
      Icarus-Smicarus @chanticleer | 15 Mar '13, 19:26 | X | ^ This | Reply
My Bloody Valentine - This Is Your Bloody Valentine/Ecstasy

and anything pre-You Made Me Realise.

domgourlay | 15 Mar '13, 11:29 | X | ^ This | Reply
The Cure - Pornography

and Disintegration. They hate them since those albums were the points when the band was falling apart from drugs/booze/in-fighting.

Shame really that Robert Smith genuinely believes wild mood swings to be their best album.

lovelessrapture | 15 Mar '13, 11:32 | X | ^ This | Reply
- really?
  
  that surprises me, just because of all this 'trilogy' blah they keep going on about, though I suppose knowing what's popular isn't the same as loving it themselves
  
  lukowski @lovelessrapture | 15 Mar '13, 11:38 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - I can sort of understand disliking Pornography
    
    as it does sound like people at the very end of their tether, that said I love its bleakness, nothing better than an opening line of 'It doesn't matter if we all die.' But I can't understand why he'd dislike Disintegration, there are some great lighter moments on it with Lovesong and Lullaby.
    
    rainmaker @lukowski | 15 Mar '13, 12:24 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - It's a shame though
      
      I legitimately think Pornography is their best record. It's at least my favorite.
      
      ThisTemporaryLife @rainmaker | 16 Mar '13, 09:23 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - First rule of The Cure..
        
        ..don't believe anything Robert Smith says in interviews.
        
        fenella @ThisTemporaryLife | 20 Mar '13, 10:47 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Wha?
  
  They (he) might associate those albums with bad times, but everything I've ever read of RS in the press has said that he rates those albums highly, and that "The Figurehead" is his favourite Cure song. (Such a clichéd pick, imo.)
  
  Of course, RS is notorious for bullshitting to journos...
  
  robluvsnic @lovelessrapture | 15 Mar '13, 13:43 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  Loui_Tacceh this'd this
  - to qualify my this
    
    The Figurehead is an EXCELLENT cliched choice
    
    Loui_Tacceh @robluvsnic | 15 Mar '13, 17:18 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - don't get me wrong
      
      I like The Figurehead, in so far as I love Pornography and wouldn't change a thing on it. But I just don't get the love that song in particular receives above not only other songs on the album, but above every other Cure song! I'd rate One Hundred Years, Hanging Garden, Short Term Effect, Pornography and (especially!) A Strange Day over The Figurehead, and that's not even considering the dozens of other brilliant songs they've produced.
      
      For me, The Figurehead, Siamese Twins and even Cold owe their greatness to their place and role in the album, and as individual songs they're nothing special. I'm not saying that they're bad or even mediocre. It's just that for me they lose all meaning outside the context of the album as a whole.
      
      To put it another way, if were making a Cure playlist (even a playlist of their "darker", "depressing" stuff) I'd never consider The Figurehead — not because I don't like or rate the song, but because it has no place for me except where it sits in Pornography, and so when I rate it, I'm really rating the album not the song.
      
      robluvsnic @Loui_Tacceh | 19 Mar '13, 01:55 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Actually , i think is The Top the record they dislike
  
  andres @lovelessrapture | 18 Mar '13, 22:12 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - and with good reason
    
    robluvsnic @andres | 19 Mar '13, 01:38 | X | ^ This | Reply
    
    noise_annoys this'd this
NoFX

hate Heavy Petting Zoo and think the songs are weird. Not a massive fan of the band but it's got some of their catchiest songs on it.

Kim Deal from Pixies refuses to play some of the material from Trompe le Monde, although this is probably as it reminds her that that Frank sidelined her vocals and songs towards the end.

FrancescoNoir | 15 Mar '13, 11:39 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Looking at the track listing
  
  of Trompe Le Monde, I think I've heard them do 8 of those tracks live in recent, so she can't be that against it.
  
  The_Groke @FrancescoNoir | 15 Mar '13, 12:18 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - It changed towards the end of the reunion
    
    However the commonly setlisted tracks from this album like U-Mass and Subbacultcha were in fact tracks from the early Pixies days that finally got put on an album. The back half of TLM is hardly ever played and these are all Frank's songs that Kim was really resentful about.
    
    FrancescoNoir @The_Groke | 15 Mar '13, 12:36 | X | ^ This | Reply
- I saw NoFX once and they said *This is the best song off our worst album - can anyone guess what it is?*
  
  And someone shouted *Ribbed!*
  
  And Fat Mike *Hey! Fuck you man! Ribbed is good!*
  
  LordLuciusBanter @FrancescoNoir | 20 Mar '13, 10:02 | X | ^ This | Reply
Mark Lanegan

seems to hate Scraps at Midnight for some reason. Which is a shame as I love that album and I'd love to hear Wheels or Hotel live. But he only seems to still play Because of This from it.

colossalhorse | 15 Mar '13, 11:53 | X | ^ This | Reply
Anybody else really hate hearing bands trash their own material?

Seems like they always trash an old album to lend weight to whatever their new album is. Pretty terrible kind of marketing-minded thing to do. Only exception is harvey milk going through their entire back catalogue and trashing absolutely everything, that was hilarious.

ethricdouble | 15 Mar '13, 11:57 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Nah its all good
  
  An artist is bound to get bored of their own stuff since they're so close to it and worked on it so long. Then have to play it over and over again. The last thing the artist did is prob always the favourite for a while since they put so much into it. Plus it doesn't matter what they think about the music, if you like it you like it.
  
  jimitheexploder @ethricdouble | 15 Mar '13, 14:07 | X | ^ This | Reply
I would feel kind of cheated devoting time to an album...

...to try and get what the band was aiming for, just to then basically be told, by the band themselves, that I shouldn't have bothered, there was nothing to "get" because it was simply a shit album.

Mind you, I can currently only think of one example of this personally, and that's 'Be Here Now' :D

bokonon | 15 Mar '13, 12:15 | X | ^ This | Reply

StormsOnTheMoon this'd this
The Beta Band...

... told fans pretty strongly not to bother with their debut...

mangygoats | 15 Mar '13, 13:41 | X | ^ This | Reply
HORSE the Band apparently don't liked their Pizza EP

SarahIsPi | 15 Mar '13, 13:46 | X | ^ This | Reply
McCartney and Let It Be, obviously.

Dunno how the others felt about it though....

spiritofjazz | 15 Mar '13, 13:50 | X | ^ This | Reply
.

http://mobile.collectorsfrenzy.com/gallery/170385778928.jpg

ideserve2 | 15 Mar '13, 17:32 | X | ^ This | Reply
Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother
Cocteau Twins - Treasure [I think, not so sure though]

DriftingSkeleton | 15 Mar '13, 18:52 | X | ^ This | Reply
- The Cocteaus' relationship with Treasure's a bit complicated
  
  http://www.cocteautwins.com/html/history/history06.html
  
  It seems their problem is more with being pushed in with arty-farty pre-Raphaelite bullshit (their words) than the music itself.
  
  mute-branches @DriftingSkeleton | 15 Mar '13, 19:47 | X | ^ This | Reply
re: Harvey Milk this has been posted before a few times

this has been posted before a few times
but it's hilarious so here it is again
www.self-titledmag.com/2010/03/08/primer-harvey-milk-tear-their-discography-apart-from-the-shitty-blues-rock-of-the-pleaser-to-the-total-creative-bankruptcy-of-their-latest-album/

anal_schwarzenegger | 15 Mar '13, 19:29 | X | ^ This | Reply

myyada this'd this
- so good
  
  always love reading that
  
  ithica @anal_schwarzenegger | 16 Mar '13, 10:08 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  thetaxidriver, WhiteLightWhiteCity, joeymahone, and Comaboy this'd this
  - Never seen that before
    
    It's absolutely brilliant
    
    Dan_S @ithica | 21 Mar '13, 19:32 | X | ^ This | Reply
I read an interview with Owen Brinley where he was going on about how terrible Grammatics were.

I can't find it now, I'm sure he said something like they might reform in ten years for the money when he was no longer embarrassed about how bad they were.

Oissin_ | 15 Mar '13, 19:50 | X | ^ This | Reply
- From the occasional chat I've had with him
  
  He's always been over-critical of his older stuff, without wanting to sound like a kiss-ass I think he's something of a perfectionist so perhaps listening to the older stuff the bits he wasn't happy with stand out more (hell, I find it easier to point out the stuff I was bad at in my previous job than what I did right)
  
  chris_81 @Oissin_ | 15 Mar '13, 20:32 | X | ^ This | Reply
Oh shit, also:

Deerhunter - Turn It Up, Faggot

Bradford HATES that record, if I remember correctly

ThisTemporaryLife | 15 Mar '13, 20:30 | X | ^ This | Reply
- he said that
  
  they just recorded a bunch of bullshit just to have something to give people so that they could play more shows, iirc
  
  ethricdouble @ThisTemporaryLife | 20 Mar '13, 14:57 | X | ^ This | Reply
Mark E Smith's already not keen on Ersatz GB

Probably rightly so tbh.

Icarus-Smicarus | 16 Mar '13, 02:47 | X | ^ This | Reply

heartworms this'd this
a different thread would be albums you think they hate

like Why? and Eskimo Snow, from which they played nothing on their last tour..

justanothersheeldz | 16 Mar '13, 09:37 | X | ^ This | Reply
not sure not playing stuff live

equates to hating the material, fellas

ethricdouble | 16 Mar '13, 09:58 | X | ^ This | Reply

ThisTemporaryLife, Yesiamaduck, and joeymahone this'd this
Michael Gira really doesn't like The Burning World

And seems to lay most of the blame for it at Bill Laswell's door.

Steved | 16 Mar '13, 11:42 | X | ^ This | Reply
townes van zandt

was'nt at all keen on his debut,went back and recorded most of its songs on his next few albums.he was on the money there.
mark e smith said something along the lines of his last(ersatz gb) album being shit from start to finish.true tbh.

jessepinkmanslungs | 18 Mar '13, 23:41 | X | ^ This | Reply
Daughters - S/T

well at least the frontman didn't seem particularly keen on it.

http://www.noisecreep.com/2010/02/04/daughters-frontman-has-mixed-feelings-about-new-lp/

wewerewerewolvesonce | 19 Mar '13, 01:03 | X | ^ This | Reply

badmanreturns this'd this
Manics - Gold Against the Soul

godisinthetv | 20 Mar '13, 01:43 | X | ^ This | Reply
Tom Waits

Doesn't like his early (pre-Swordfishtrombones) albums much.

"I'm embarrassed by them. It was a time when I was trying to find my place within the business. I was figuring out who I was and where that person intersected with the world of commerce. It was like I was sitting there with a ventriloquist's dummy on my knee. And the dummy is made out of wood. And after a while you start to hate each other."

Have to say I completely disagree with him & would take Small Change over any of his later work, much as I enjoy that too.

ThirstyDog | 20 Mar '13, 05:34 | X | ^ This | Reply
- I don't think he hates Small Change
  
  he still performs quite a lot of it live. Plus that album is nigh on flawless compared to the bloated alienation of Mule Variations etc.
  
  yuggy @ThirstyDog | 20 Mar '13, 14:09 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - "the bloated alienation of Mule Variations etc."
    
    what
    
    incandenza_ @yuggy | 20 Mar '13, 14:54 | X | ^ This | Reply
    
    ThirstyDog this'd this
Be Here Now

Well documented is Noel's dislike of it - naturally, Liam thinks it's ace.

I still think it's fascinating the amount of sonic overkill on the album....

putnam39 | 20 Mar '13, 14:04 | X | ^ This | Reply
- I listened to Be Here Now the other day
  
  I liked it when it came out, the problem was that it was disappointing in comparison to everything else they did and they went a bit nuts on song length and production. I thought it was alright actually, I wasn't looking forward to some of the songs but they are better than I thought they would be. If they had skipped a few songs, put some B-sides from around the time on instead and done less cocaine, it would have been much better. Critics would still have disliked it though.
  
  steinbolt @putnam39 | 20 Mar '13, 15:14 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - The critics loved it at the time
    
    It got ecstatic reviews pretty much across the board when it came out, until people realised that, underneath the bombastic production & 10 million guitar overdubs, there wasn't a lot of substance. Agree that if you pruned some of the shitter tracks (Magic Pie, Don't Go Away, Girl in the Dirty Shirt etc) & replaced them with Stay Young, you'd have a much better album. Definitely a cocaine album.
    
    ThirstyDog @steinbolt | 22 Mar '13, 03:47 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - I listened to this again the other day too
      
      and came to similar conclusions (though I'd keep Don't Go Away and get rid of the title track).
      
      How the hell is Magic Pie over seven minutes long?!
      
      sizeofanocean @ThirstyDog | 22 Mar '13, 07:22 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - Every song on that album
        
        outstays its welcome by at least 2 minutes.
        
        ThirstyDog @sizeofanocean | 22 Mar '13, 07:43 | X | ^ This | Reply
Pantera

They don't like their early hair metal records of which there are several, to the point where they don't even list them in their discography. Which is fair enough, they are shit. They should have just changed their name when they got all cool and heavy, but it was a shame they had a really cool name I suppose.

steinbolt | 20 Mar '13, 15:11 | X | ^ This | Reply
- In the same vain
  
  Ministry don't like any and the early records, pre The Land of Rape and Honey.
  
  disconottechno @steinbolt | 20 Mar '13, 15:18 | X | ^ This | Reply
Im not 100% on this

as I haven't been a fan for a long time but the Chili Peppers seem to not like albums pre Blood Sex, which I don't get as Up Lift Mo Fo & Mother Milk are their best albums, and Freaky Styley is really good too. In fact they haven't made a good album since Mothers Milk.

disconottechno | 20 Mar '13, 15:17 | X | ^ This | Reply
The La's

untrue | 20 Mar '13, 15:30 | X | ^ This | Reply
- I don't think Lee Mavers would like anything he put on record unless it was recorded on a 60's mono tape recorder in an alley by a Bootle scaghead
  
  chris_81 @untrue | 20 Mar '13, 15:54 | X | ^ This | Reply
Scream by Chris Cornell

Dicodisco | 21 Mar '13, 18:42 | X | ^ This | Reply

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