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So that's probably why lots of people like them all. Cheers.

people like to feel a sense of community,to feel as though they are part of something,and with "indie" you get a vague sense of intelligense which appeals to some people.

They will be aware of the new Coldplay album because it will be promoted everywhere. They won't be aware of the new Pastels album because it will be promoted in low key (ie low cost) places.

In that other thread you're saying that your don't know why people don't just listen to their favourite music, but here you're saying you don't know why people don't listen to music outside their established favourites. You're not being very consistent.

Fair enough to them. Doesn't mean they like music any less or are any lesser of a human. It's just not something they want to spend their time and energy on.

indie is the boringest genre there is

Like, if you look at last year's end of year lists, they are somewhat 'diverse', in that they are genre spanning, but at the same time they are nearly all really similar to each other.

So,given points 1, 2 and 3 on your list, it surprises me that everyone is basically in agreement that Swans and Frank Ocean made the two best albums of 2012.

If you look at the top 10/20/9000/whatever lists of people that actually make music (I don't mean like we all do, I mean like for a living, touring different countries and shit) there is almost no overlap at all, let alone consensus. Clearly the people who dedicate their lives to music to the extent that they spend more time in van than with their families love music. However, if you're a 'music lover' outside of being actually creative it seems that all of a sudden there are a list of objective 'best' albums that you either like or "don't understand", a criticism that would never be levelled at, say, Bradford Cox, even though his entire creative output is very much along the same lines.

tl;dr: there is a sort of pressure on 'music lovers' (i.e. critics and internet nerds) to demonstrate a love of a kind of agreed-upon diversity that then becomes generic.

we would listen to music from every country/continent on top of whatever Cementimental listens to.

Read the first comment. Now.

i think quite often people mistake an "indie" fan for being some creative obsessive with incredible taste who searches out all this new music,in reality the vast majority are no different to people who listen to the charts or buy all there music in tesco.its all fairly predictable.ties in with what i said about people wanting to be part of a community.music is very rarely just about the music

^autofill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2QKlmMT8II

needs more logic and math.
Actually, can we just have a whole 'logic and math' forum, where Deep-Blue analyses lastfm charts and tells us all what we should/shouldn't be doing?
And also makes fun of user names. That was my favourite part.

and then announce as a definitive guide of the only bands people like.

No idea where you are getting this from, seems more like you wrongly imagine yourself have more varied taste in music than others, and are trying to make that point somehow.

They are you answers.

Tesc O)))

Don't blame the people for having the same thoughts and tastes - you only notice them together because these industries have rounded this certain demographic into a nice penned in community.

It has very little to do with what a band or artist sound like and everything to do with market-place positioning for the band and the magazines you are reading about them in. Don't get frustrated, just admit you are a member of this group of people. Be relieved that the world is not as homogenised as you think and about 99.9% of the world are not interested in a poxy music mags end of year list.

Your view of who these people that should have different tastes is is extremely narrow.

If you want to talk to the people with a different top 10 to Pitchfork readers, don't hang around the corner of the internet where that musical culture prevails.

What I want to know is - Y U MAINSTREAM GIVE UP ON BLACK METAL WHEN ITZ GETTING GUD AGAIN?

I mean, you almost went to see Satyricon, right? You would have.

might be my favourite of all the comedy tags

Sorry to anyone I disagreed with when they said: 'the music board ain't what it used to be'.

I wonder similar things sometimes. But the answeris already said above^ when you poll for the consensus that's what you are going to get - no diversity, because more people will
pick the same thing than doesn't. If you know what I mean.

It's no big thought - it's just what is popular. Popular music is successful in
many ways. There are hundreds of banda and albums that will never make theae lists, and I imagine it doesn't trouble them that much. That's why music is so fucking amazing - it is diverse; I don't need the consensus to be.

put forward by someone whose every opinion comes straight from the pages of Rolling Stone.

And also http://i.imgur.com/9Qxts.jpg

what you've asked is a question about maths: it has nothing to do with music.

the exact same question could be asked about clothes. or groceries. or websites. or cars. or pets. or porn. or DiS user's mothers.

and therefore will be the bands that a lot of people will have in common in among all the idiosyncrasies? No? Oh ok.

Garbage are shite.

not something that keeps me up at night deep blue
fair play on getting 50+ replies though

fuck you for labelling me.

:(

and i guess took his username from a computer built to play chess?

It seems that old and dusty joke with over 50 replies is actually true quite often.

I will leave you here to fight each other peacefully. Until tomorrow I wanna see at least 150 posts.

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(think Louis beat me to it, though).

i mean i know people really love trying to be the most cynical user of all time ever, but that did used to happen sometimes.

It was good.

someone who genuinely enjoys Kanye West, The Smiths, Sigur Ros AND Bob Dylan has pretty diverse tastes.

Flying Lotus
Los Campesinos!
The xx
Iron & Wine
Mercury Rev
Neutral Milk Hotel
Belle and Sebastian
HEALTH
Animal Collective
Modest Mouse

Though those are popular bands, those are incredibly DIFFERENT bands. I don't think listening to bands that are popular with a specific group of people makes those bands unoriginal, or not diverse. Loads of people like Pink Floyd and Black Sabbath and The Beatles, but those are three incredibly different bands.

I think I'm just missing the point. Is it a bad thing that people here really like all of those dissimilar bands?

And I don't care. Well, I DID, but learned that it's all relative. For instance, out of those acts you listed, I think all but about 3 of those are crap. So what? And most people I know like maybe one (guess which one?) from that list. And THEY don't like what I like, either. Ipods keep it real for me, I live in my own world of music.

Gareth; The National, sometimes Arcade Fire. So different bands for different...needs.

1 hawkwind
2 doldrums
3 manic street preachers
4 connan mockasin
5 gene clarke
6 vybz kartel
7 gucci mane
8 justin timberlake
9 symmetry
10 metallica

Sorry, what was the question?

1. Buke & Gase
2. Modest Mouse
3. Hookworms
4. Caitlin Rose
5. Camera Obscura
6. TV On The Radio
7. Lotte Kestner
8. Bilal
9. The Embassy
10. Yelle

I can't wait to see the results, I would like a break down of the results as well please.

that said i kinda agree a bit, not about your people just listening to stuff but i always find it surprising that there's so much consensus about album of the year across the big blogs. i don't understand why you'd run a website and cover all the same stuff that pitchfork covers. maybe they don't week to week, idk don't really read any of them except to glance over the end of year stuff.

Why do people use "Pitchfork reader" pejoratively? I read Pitchfork, I know a lot of people who do... I think it's really only a problem if it's ALL you read. Just like if you ONLY go to Stereogum, or The Quietus, or FACTmag, or even jolly ol' DiS.

What is it about Pitchfork that inspires so much ire?

Cheers

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