Weirdly, i've always considered them a songs band and not an albums band. They're literally one of my favourite bands, read pretty much everything ever written on them and listen to them more than most other bands, but i've just never felt much love fot either of their LPs.
1) it sounds like Vic Reeves doing the club singer thing. Whenever I hear it, I have to do that bagpipe action with my right arm.
2) every little emo turd in the world claims to like it, rendering it completely detestable.
seriously though it's a mediocre song both lyrically and musically that has mysteriously been elevated to near mythical 'best song of all time' status. It's the goth Hey Jude.
Atmosphere probably shades it. But then there's Transmission, Disorder, She's Lost Control, New Dawn Fades, Insight, 24 Hours, The Eternal, Decades, Ceremony, In a Lonely Place....
I can understand it not being someones favourite Joy Division song, and considering their strong library it might not be up there with the best (I honestly think it is) but it's still a cracking tune. It doesn't sound overly dark compared with a lot of other JD (the guitar sounds more like what I guess they'd turn to with New Order) buuut the lyrics are fine, although might sound a bit silly now that bands like Interpol have made the whole cringe-upfront-lyrics thing a bit of a joke.
I would agree that Novelty has dated quite badly compared to other Joy Division songs, but if you were to strip the vocals you'd have a pretty sweet guitar track there.
As mentioned above it's the one that still sounds like it's from the future. A lot of their others seem a bit dated (though still amazing). Disorder is also now eternally linked to 2001:A Space Odyssey on my brain thanks to this great vid:
But. I think Joy Division might be the greatest band of all time. Or at least the most consistently brilliant. I know that might not sound like much because they weren't exactly around for yonks, but they have a large library of singles and b-sides along with their perfect albums that kind of justify's this. I also can't think of a single other band that can pull of the sound that they get down so well. This must be down to their producer as well of course, but it's amazing how unique they've stayed after all these years, even after all the bands they've influenced.
Every time I listen to Joy Division I fond myself marveling at how fresh and advanced it all sounds, futuristic even, remarkable considering the songs are 30 years old or whatever.
Transmission is my fave. Gives me chills every time. I love the post-apocalyptic dance party racket of it all. It sounds like vehicles descending on sweaty rebellious kids in a black city. The way Curtis delivers 'synchronize love to the beat of the show' is just perfect.
The guitar in Shadowplay is excellent, especially on some of the noisier live versions. Also really like Love Will Tear Us Apart, Digital, Disorder, Atmosphere, Isolation... on and on. Really their hits to misses ratio is amazing.
disorder
cheers
did you see this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93pQRoBXqS8
i think it's quite a good cover
the singer is just concentrated cringe
good socks though
no i have never
thank you very much. favourite singer + favourite song + awesome backing band
genuinely had to turn that off after about 8 seconds.
what the fuck's the guy doing, in his pop socks and with his passive-aggressive dance.
very, very odd.
Jesus
I mean it sounds OK but the lead singer looks like what you'd get if they remade Are You Being Served & cast Henry Rollins as Mr Humphreys.
looks like a guy having fun singing a good song pretty well ...
Looks like the video clip you find
If you look up 'complete cock' in the dictionary
passive-aggressive dance
What The Fuck Are You Talking About?
it still sounds so fresh
could be released today and sound totally "now", except with better singing and lyrics than most
The hit
Love Will Tear Us Apart is obviously their best work.
Atmosphere isn't far behind.
Digital and Incubation are my favourites, though.
Weirdly, i've always considered them a songs band and not an albums band. They're literally one of my favourite bands, read pretty much everything ever written on them and listen to them more than most other bands, but i've just never felt much love fot either of their LPs.
The Sound Of Music
Stiff competition from:
Atrocity Exhibition
Isolation
Ice Age
Dead Souls
Wilderness
Interzone
wut
THEY ARE MY FAVOURITES OK
u freek
Atmosphere
Obviously.
Transmission close behind.
These were the first 2 to pop into my mind as well
this, then Heart & Soul.
That song has such a terrifying mood about it, completely hypnotic.
Atmosphere is absolutely incredible
New Zealanders seem to really love it for some reason. It hit #1 when it was released and has charted here 3 times.
Atmosphere definitely
Although I prefer Russ Abbott's cover version.
Isolation
could be Disorder
or could be Heart & Soul depending on what day it is.
actually that live version of Ceremony off Still, that puts tingles up my spine.
The Rat
*Obstacle 1
*Munich
*Death
Digital
I seem to play this one first
when having a Joy Division session.
Not even the Barney and John "John!" Simm live version can spoil it for me.
No one mentioned Decades?
Amazing song
Yas, that too.
They have a lot of good songs....
Days of the Lords
One my favourite intros to a song ever
it sounds absolutely immense
My favourite part is
WHERE WILL IT END?!?!
New dawn fades
Atmosphere - it can still bring me to tears after all this years
Shadowplay, Day of the Lords, Transmission, Decades and Love Will Tear Us all run it very very close.
Dead Souls still sounds as heavy and as exciting now
as it did the first time I heard it.
Does Ceremony count?
if so that
how masterful a studio version of that with Curtis on vocals would have been
perhaps the greatest song ever
The Galaxie 500 version is better.
i consider Ceremony a Joy Division song, aye.
even the New Order vesion.
Curtis wrote it, and they peformed it live quite often.
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4422255#r7231250
Transmission
Followed closely by Wilderness.
The "AND WE CAN DAAAAAAAANCE" bit from Transmission...
...is one of my favourite ever moments in music. The fucking momentum and energy in that particular moment is astonishing!
tony wilson wrote a great paragraph or two about that part of the song.
it was in the sleevenotes for the 24hour party people soundtrack. agreed, it's a thrilling moment
Glad to see more love for Wilderness
Twenty Four Hours
It really is Isolation.
Probably my favourite lyric ever.
The problem with Love Will Tear Us Apart
is twofold.
1) it sounds like Vic Reeves doing the club singer thing. Whenever I hear it, I have to do that bagpipe action with my right arm.
2) every little emo turd in the world claims to like it, rendering it completely detestable.
yeah...
a song being popular or not is much more important than whether it's lyrically or musically brilliant.
Butthurt Will Tear You Apart
seriously though it's a mediocre song both lyrically and musically that has mysteriously been elevated to near mythical 'best song of all time' status. It's the goth Hey Jude.
You're clearly on the wind up or a simpleton.
Dead Souls
as above...
its easily Dead Souls, a beautiful and powerful song.
The Eternal
Oh my, my, my, my...The Eternal.
The music sounds like someone sobbing. As bleak and beautiful as music gets
Colony
I think
It's all about
Exercise One. New Dawn Fades & that longer version of She's Lost Control closer behind.
Exercise One has one of my favourite intros ever
So hard
Atmosphere probably shades it. But then there's Transmission, Disorder, She's Lost Control, New Dawn Fades, Insight, 24 Hours, The Eternal, Decades, Ceremony, In a Lonely Place....
Smokers Outside the Hospital Doors
not much love here for she's lost control
surprising
2nd fave
No Love Lost
Atmosphere
Dead Souls
New Dawn Fades
Decades
Shadowplay
She's Lost Control
24 Hours
Isolation
Heart and Soul
The Eternal
Disorder
Joy Division have such a high proportion of great songs
That 'least favourite' is possibly a more interesting question.
'I Remember Nothing' for me.
Novelty
I don't understand the hate Novelty seems to get on here
I can understand it not being someones favourite Joy Division song, and considering their strong library it might not be up there with the best (I honestly think it is) but it's still a cracking tune. It doesn't sound overly dark compared with a lot of other JD (the guitar sounds more like what I guess they'd turn to with New Order) buuut the lyrics are fine, although might sound a bit silly now that bands like Interpol have made the whole cringe-upfront-lyrics thing a bit of a joke.
I would agree that Novelty has dated quite badly compared to other Joy Division songs, but if you were to strip the vocals you'd have a pretty sweet guitar track there.
Does it get hate on here?
I never realised. But I just really don't like it for some reason.
It's got to be digital
As mentioned above it's the one that still sounds like it's from the future. A lot of their others seem a bit dated (though still amazing). Disorder is also now eternally linked to 2001:A Space Odyssey on my brain thanks to this great vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrzGpVOPcTI
I'm going to make an outrageous claim here
But. I think Joy Division might be the greatest band of all time. Or at least the most consistently brilliant. I know that might not sound like much because they weren't exactly around for yonks, but they have a large library of singles and b-sides along with their perfect albums that kind of justify's this. I also can't think of a single other band that can pull of the sound that they get down so well. This must be down to their producer as well of course, but it's amazing how unique they've stayed after all these years, even after all the bands they've influenced.
yeah
they owe a lot to Martin Hannett. I think they initially wanted so sound more raw and punky like the earlier Warsaw stuff but he put his stamp on it
Warsaw is such a good song too though
Would have loved to have them do more straight-up punk stuff, since they clearly knew what they were doing with that genre
nothing outrageous about that
if you count joy division and new order as essentially the same band, they are easily the greatest of all time.
Echoing JaguarPirate,
Every time I listen to Joy Division I fond myself marveling at how fresh and advanced it all sounds, futuristic even, remarkable considering the songs are 30 years old or whatever.
Transmission is my fave. Gives me chills every time. I love the post-apocalyptic dance party racket of it all. It sounds like vehicles descending on sweaty rebellious kids in a black city. The way Curtis delivers 'synchronize love to the beat of the show' is just perfect.
The guitar in Shadowplay is excellent, especially on some of the noisier live versions. Also really like Love Will Tear Us Apart, Digital, Disorder, Atmosphere, Isolation... on and on. Really their hits to misses ratio is amazing.