Taking Wild Beasts..................seriously..........really.
As much as I love the over the top vocals I think I gonna put them in them in the here today, gone tomorrow pile.
There is no way they are going to be able to follow in their own footsteps- no fucking way. People are not going to want to love Wild Beasts' quirkiness for very long so if they want to continiue they will be forced to change which will alienate their loyal fans and
band over
too bad
but
we'll always have:
hoo-ting, hoo-ting and how-ling
hoo-ting, hoo-ting and how-ling
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Interesting point but
I wasn't overly impressed by 'Limbo Panto' and initially wasn't fussed about listening to 'Two Dancers' that much, but since I did rarely a day has passed without me listening to it while their live shows just get better and better so we'll have to see. I get what you mean in that it could become an albatross around their necks but what an albatross to have to carry!
I love em, got both albums but I can't see more than one more album from Wild Beasts.
some reviewer posted the Hooting and Howling video here before Two Dancers came out and I've been hooked ever since. I still say they should have used top line gear for that video instead of crap, Woolworths instruments- I real tragedy I know, I cringe when I see bands smashing worthy instruments up but maybe they could've made models of great gear and used those or "prepared" great gear for an underwater adventure but I digress.
You're right, we'll have to see- I'm hoping for the best cause I do love them.
to me
Two Dancers is already toned-down compared to the first album, as much as i love both - i hope this trend doesn't continue and they turn into.. elbow. i want MORE weirdness/histrionics!
see what I mean? Yeah I noticed it too, that's what made me think it
they should stay the course and if a course change is necessary then it should be into the even "weirder" waters as you said.
i see what you mean, apart from
the bits where i don't - which is most of what you wrote, namely when you wrote them off in your first sentence.
I did write them off but only because the writing is on the wall
Wild Beasts are one trick ponies and they will implode and become Cold Play or just die before their fourth album comes out. Hopefully they will find a way to make their schtick viable for more than three albums (which I highly doubt) or they will be able to add a new facet to themselves (which I also doubt).
More than likely if it goes into overtime and they do put out 3 plus albums you lot will be hating them and groaning over them "Oh look, here comes another Wild Beasts album, when will they just die? Ha, I can hear it know.
you'd have a point
if their second album wasn't a huge leap forward from the first, and if they weren't amazing live, and weren't generally really brilliant.
Never seen them live- I will trust your judgement (as I have done many times in the past)
I just don't see how they can keep themselves going. I hate to say Wild Beasts are one trick ponies but I fear- they are. I don't think they have the creative elasticity of say Nick Cave who has been able to dive in and out of various niches and stay afloat (I think he is in grinderman so he can return to things like Birthday Party and early Nick). No, I think Wild Beasts will be 1 or 2 good albums and ADIOS.
Not really much quirkiness. If you're going to call a bit of originality and
a different direction, then yeah. But bands just can't keep on being derivative done before, no matter how well it's done.
I'd say Wild Beasts are somewhat Jeff Buckley and Tiny Tim derivative.
Sometimes I even hear some Jarboe warbling away in the breasts of Wild Beasts but I do feel they are "original" despite that. I usually let artists be themselves and not compare them overly. What I am pointing out is that they've pinned everything on some campy falsetto vocals and if you subtract that you are left with is a band who writes worthy tunes and come off a bit samey; something between Radiohead and Coldplay. That might sell some records but it's not going to get them entered into the hall of "important artists".
Perhaps. But I think the progression from the first album to the second...
...which doesn't overly rely on the falsetto of Hayden, is where I'm coming from. I think I prefer the songs Tom sings on, all in all.
You and Kik are evidence
that either end of any spectrum of opinion tends to be bloody annoying.
Save us all a lot of uncertainty and just reel off now which acts will be remembered as greats in 10-20 years and which will be forgotten. I'd love to know so I know which ones to buy!
I can see why KiK's bloody retarded, abusive and UBU-ISH end of the spectrum is annoying- it annoys the shit out of me (but i do love him)
but why does my general brilliance in this field annoy you? I do have an accute sense for what is fleeting mediocrity and timeless brilliance- I have proven it time and time again over the many decades I have been watching and listening. This isn't something I've just noticed in the last 21 months since I've been a DiSer.
I love it when you reel out that sentence!
<3
(with a little chuckle)
: )
Thougn I don't agree with him
I understand what Cronin is saying. But you can only judge an album by itself, not by how relevant/big/remembered you think the band will be in the future.
there's some truth in that; some bands are remembered for one song
or one album (like I think Wild Beasts will be) but some artists are remembered for their entire body of work- 6 albums or even more sometimes and those artists are of a timeless echelon, artists who even their perceived "failures" are absolute treasure.
I'm listening to them for the first time ever properly today
They're alright it'd seem, now I've got past that weird falsetto thingy. It's like Tim Burgess all over again.
He sounds a lot more like Guy Harvey on the second album though at times. Which in some ways I prefer. Maybe.
CONCLUSION: They're not Girls Aloud.
Of that we can be thankful
True
There's only one Girls Aloud after all.
So what makes these guys so great live then?
The guy who you say sounds like Guy Garvey
is not the same guy as the one with the falsetto. There's two singers.
This would explain that development then.
Ta.
Who needs Wikipedia eh? Or indeed ears?
Hang on, are we slagging them off because they won't be around for any longer?
Or are we saying it's a pity?
I'm not sure what's going on here.
Uh, yeah, I guess I should've mentioned that I am a fan of theirs.
We are saying it's a pity. Poor Wild Beasts will be dead soon.
This thread is ridiculous
and probably incorrect.
I actually hope you're right
I saw them live a couple of years ago, thought they were the worst band i'd ever seen.
Got the first record, horrific.
Saw them live on telly the other night, thought they were fantastic.
Got the second record, quite like it.
oh my fucking god- an actual musical experience that took DEVELOPMENT!!?
and wasn't just a cursory aural glance off the XBOX and kitchen telly?
I can't tell you how proud I am of you at this moment- close to crying, honestly.
so you are already dissapointed
even before they actually dissapointed you. SC, you are what's called a pesimistic.
yeah, probably
pessimistic or pragmatic but probably pessimistic- I do tend to look on the un-bright side.
My mate did a cover of Devil's Crayon here:
www.myspace.com/samaireymusic
Tom who wrote Devil's Crayon got intouch and said he thought it was great, and remarkeable similar to how he first intended the song to sound like :)
that's cool but how did your friend get a picture of my driveway?
http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss315/hovercrab/IMG_1091-1.jpg
never got what the hub bub was about
theyre ok, an above average band. thats speaking from an objective standpoint.... frankly, they bore me. as i said when the new album came out, ill say now. 7/10 album. PFFT
MY OPINION MATTERS
Opinions are just opinions unless you believe them to be accurate
and If you do, then your opinion becomes a strong opinion and if you can back up an opinion with strong arguments it may become "truth". If you believe your opinion; it will always matter to at least one person- that's a beginning.
I think Wild Beasts have potential to go beyond their quirkiness but I don't think they have the vision or the conviction to be important artists therefore, at this moment, I feel that they are headed into a corner.
I'm not a huge fan, I don't have a history with them,
but Two Dancers is a good listen.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean with this following footsteps-thing though.
To me this doesn't sound like a record that's taken to definitive ends in anyway. It sounds more like they're just getting started.
yeah, the more I read my original post the more cringeworthy it becomes.
I think what I meant by the footsteps-thing is that they could potentially be important artists and have shown glimpses of it on several of their songs but they are basically pop artists who have a pop audience to answer to and will not walk the path of the unknown, they won't be allowed to do that because they want to headline Reading and sell records. Of course if they really wanted to walk a more dedicated, groundbreaking creative pathway they could- I hope they do. More than likely though, they will be another Editors or Bloc Party and wind up having their music mostly forgotten and become objects of mockery on DiS over some woman named Edith Beaumont or something like that- you'll see.
horrendous band.