The UK Funky phenomenon seems to have tempted him back in the studio. As for the album not being up to scratch I thought there were a few good tracks on it,but UK Garage works best on the 12" single format.
Its a classic, there are so many amazing garage producers around. I've been playing loads of EL-B recently after getting his roots of compilation and this is another undisputed classic...
all i have is some turgid uk garage mix compilation with craig david and the like on, most of it is pure cheese.
Roots of EL-B came out this year and its brilliant he's a massive influence on people like Burial and pretty much invented dubstep by taking garage into darker places. His drums are incredible.
Most of its pretty rare 12"s by now mind but anything from the likes of: Zed Bias, Wookie, Horsepower, Groove Chronicals, Ghost (aka EL-B), Tod Edwards... are worth a listen. Even DJ Zinc was making some sort of badass garage/breakbeat/d'n'b hybrid at the time under names like Jammin.
there are to many I just cant think off the top of my head, I kind of missed alot of garage at the time really. I'm playing catch up when I can, listening to Oneman helps haha
I was playing lots of breakbeat sort of stuff at the time and that easily made its way into my record bag. Its a sort of breakbeat garage hybrid I guess its definatly a classic I still play it now. I think it even got in the charts with the vocal version.
"If Assholes Could Fly, This Place Would Be An Airport" has that garage bass wobble going on, if I remember right (haven't listened to it in years).
At the time it came out I was going out with someone who worked in Avalanche Records in Edinburgh, and she said the first listen in the shop was hilarious – a couple of the blokes who worked there obviously weren't expecting that direction, and turned to each other after about 30 seconds making WTF faces. "Is this... garage? Ugh."
and some white labels of Zinc doing stuff with too many samples on top clear for Bingo Beats haha I was playing lots of breakbeat at the time and this kind of thing found its way in along with some Wookie, Zed Bias and others I can't think of right now. I only started to dig them out again when I got into dubstep later as I missed out on the begining of that as it was so local to bits of london and I was busey buying techno and stuff with guitars.
a massive low point in dance music. I never understood at the time how they could call it garage when garage to me was vocal house at 110 - 115 bpms in the early to mid nineties. I am clearly out of touch.
like criage david and the bo selecta lot that got in the charts but bubbeling under was some amazing stuff that I'm only really finding out about now to be honest. Lots of the dubstep heads are digging out uk garage gems at the moment, like the really dark bass heavy stuff with mad rolling drums alot of it was probibly stuff that didnt get heard to far out of london and the pirates so its cool to have it about now and repenting the sins of the stupid cheesey horible stuff that the genre often gets tarnished with.
I dismised it as mostly pap at the time really but then nothing that wasnt the chart shite made it up north to where I was anyway really apart from the odd bit of DJ Zinc and Wookie.
is great too.
indo - ru sleeping
sweet female attitude - flowers (one for the ice-rinks...)
todd edwards - saved my life
and the artful dodger remix of it ain't enough.
um... yeah.
that new pangaea tune "memories" has a pretty solid garage feel to it. big tune. and duke st. dub by sully.
I DJed out a month ago and played it at the end of the night, I had people slow dancing to it brilliant. Sully is something else I need to grab more of his 12"s really.
it's faaast. isn't it? i think my perspective is a bit skewwwiff. anyway, i'd go mental if someone played it. it's heavier and more focused than router, which i've played out a couple of times to ... well, no effect whatsoever.
you know phonebox by sully? that's my favourite. but the duke st. thing is great too.
Yes,
the rest of the album's not up to scratch though...
He's a talented producer
The UK Funky phenomenon seems to have tempted him back in the studio. As for the album not being up to scratch I thought there were a few good tracks on it,but UK Garage works best on the 12" single format.
love it
Its a classic, there are so many amazing garage producers around. I've been playing loads of EL-B recently after getting his roots of compilation and this is another undisputed classic...
Groove Chronicals - Stone Cold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuZeyur3Exc
and yeah its all about the 12"s.
what else should i be checking from that period?
all i have is some turgid uk garage mix compilation with craig david and the like on, most of it is pure cheese.
Roots of EL-B came out this year and its brilliant he's a massive influence on people like Burial and pretty much invented dubstep by taking garage into darker places. His drums are incredible.
Most of its pretty rare 12"s by now mind but anything from the likes of: Zed Bias, Wookie, Horsepower, Groove Chronicals, Ghost (aka EL-B), Tod Edwards... are worth a listen. Even DJ Zinc was making some sort of badass garage/breakbeat/d'n'b hybrid at the time under names like Jammin.
Steve Gurley!!!
of course!
there are to many I just cant think off the top of my head, I kind of missed alot of garage at the time really. I'm playing catch up when I can, listening to Oneman helps haha
Yeah I kinda followed the music,but still missed sit loads
El-B's stuff was hard to get hold of outside London. These guys are really good though:
http://www.dnrvinyl.co.uk/index.php?osCsid=b6cf324b7e89e06a60a3b881b5d785ac
the tune came out a couple of years before the album,
so i think of them as seperate anyway.
sunship stuff stands up well now, lots of it on cheesy compilations too.
I always thought of DJ Zinc's "138 Trek" as a garagey tune
although purists might quibble. Either way it's great.
yeah me too
I was playing lots of breakbeat sort of stuff at the time and that easily made its way into my record bag. Its a sort of breakbeat garage hybrid I guess its definatly a classic I still play it now. I think it even got in the charts with the vocal version.
You know, I don't think I've ever heard the vocal version
Will have to hunt it down later.
with MC GQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2zD2Zc40Mw
the vocals
are mixed reeeally weirdly... but this is still great. thanks.
also
"If Assholes Could Fly, This Place Would Be An Airport" has that garage bass wobble going on, if I remember right (haven't listened to it in years).
At the time it came out I was going out with someone who worked in Avalanche Records in Edinburgh, and she said the first listen in the shop was hilarious – a couple of the blokes who worked there obviously weren't expecting that direction, and turned to each other after about 30 seconds making WTF faces. "Is this... garage? Ugh."
Oh, it's by Manitoba (now Caribou)
Meant to mention that.
hahha nice
I'll have to look out for that one.
I'm pretty certain that it was the Four Tet remix of that which was
the really garagey version.
thread from a little while ago:
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4187397
this shouldn't be here
stupid dis
did you get Bingo Beats?
I've got quite a few Bingo Beats 12"s
and some white labels of Zinc doing stuff with too many samples on top clear for Bingo Beats haha I was playing lots of breakbeat at the time and this kind of thing found its way in along with some Wookie, Zed Bias and others I can't think of right now. I only started to dig them out again when I got into dubstep later as I missed out on the begining of that as it was so local to bits of london and I was busey buying techno and stuff with guitars.
UK twostep or garage or whatever its called. This reminds me of
a massive low point in dance music. I never understood at the time how they could call it garage when garage to me was vocal house at 110 - 115 bpms in the early to mid nineties. I am clearly out of touch.
only the really cheesey stuff got much notice really
like criage david and the bo selecta lot that got in the charts but bubbeling under was some amazing stuff that I'm only really finding out about now to be honest. Lots of the dubstep heads are digging out uk garage gems at the moment, like the really dark bass heavy stuff with mad rolling drums alot of it was probibly stuff that didnt get heard to far out of london and the pirates so its cool to have it about now and repenting the sins of the stupid cheesey horible stuff that the genre often gets tarnished with.
you're probably right, there was a load of awful shit in the charts
at the time.
there really was
I dismised it as mostly pap at the time really but then nothing that wasnt the chart shite made it up north to where I was anyway really apart from the odd bit of DJ Zinc and Wookie.
used to love the mj cole mix of another level-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8zMP9qgflo
another garage mix of rnb, kci & jojo-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mapbdUAbcrY
big zed bias special on benji b this week-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/benjib/
Lots of nice memories for me, re-listening to stuff like this
As you say the chart stuff gave it a bad name really.
Remember 'Booo!' by Sticky/Ms Dynamite? I found a cassette of that in a cupboard in the pub I worked at. Tune.
Sticky & Ms Dynamite gave that away not long ago on FACT
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4191802
those links might still work, love that track!
some of the commercial stuff
is great too.
indo - ru sleeping
sweet female attitude - flowers (one for the ice-rinks...)
todd edwards - saved my life
and the artful dodger remix of it ain't enough.
um... yeah.
that new pangaea tune "memories" has a pretty solid garage feel to it. big tune. and duke st. dub by sully.
few things piss me off more than
inconsistent punctuation. shit's sake.
I <3 Memories
I DJed out a month ago and played it at the end of the night, I had people slow dancing to it brilliant. Sully is something else I need to grab more of his 12"s really.
slow dancing?!
it's faaast. isn't it? i think my perspective is a bit skewwwiff. anyway, i'd go mental if someone played it. it's heavier and more focused than router, which i've played out a couple of times to ... well, no effect whatsoever.
you know phonebox by sully? that's my favourite. but the duke st. thing is great too.
http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=172767
yeah it was kind of strange
they slow danced to Joker, Guido, Darkstar and James Blake too it was getting quite late at night.
I love Phonebox Sully has that really rough dance floor vibe thats also some how really rolling and smooth all at once.
liquid yet lumpy
sort of like egg mayonnaise.
mmm... egg mayonnaise.
hhaha
I'm hungry now
MJ COLE in Sheffield 13th Nov
@ The Harley.
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=160723583030&ref=mf
christ yes
the remix by Nero is probably my favourite of the year too.
MJ Cole seems to be having a resurgence, here's a mix he did for FACT Magazine that is mostly uk funky i think: http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3063&Itemid=98
it looks like it's not available anymore but somewhere else'll have it i guess.