I'd really love to see ATP do a more upbeat, fun 10 year anniversary weekend - would you?
I know that SOME do have smatterings of it, and that some of these acts have played before, but I mean one where the whole weekend was sheer aural silliness, awesome hip hop or cracking electronica:
eg. Vitalic / Cut Copy / Dizzee Rascal / Aesop Rock / The Faint / Juan Maclean / !!! / M.I.A. / Michachu / Erol Arkan / David Holmes / SFA doing some techno DJing / El-P / James Murphy / Underworld / Alter Ego / Tiefschwarz / Afrikan Boy / Diplo / The Hacker / worriedaboutsatan / LCD Soundsystem / Wiley / CAN / Black Strobe / Herbert / The Chap / Datarock / MSTRKRFT / Kid 606 / Lucky Pierre / Gramme / Fever Ray / Digitalism / Dntel / Murs / some of the still playing motown acts / ESG / Gang Gang Dance / Gui Boratto / Holy fuck / Hercules & the Love Affair / Hot Chip / Junior Boys / Black Dice / J.O.Y. / Liquid Liquid / Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom / The Rapture / Pixeltan / justice / KaitO / Munk / Louie Austen / Gonzales / Carl Craig / MIT / Alec Empire / Out Hud / Pivot / Para One / Trevor Jackson / Soulwax / Who Made Who
Hell, maybe even Amerie / Keri Hilson / Brandy / Uffie etc. A step too far? Ok...
But I just think it'd be great. I associate ATP with surprising me, but the last couple of line ups' haven't done so as much as usual. I reckon we're due one that celebrates things other than guitars and gives us an excuse to have a bit of a groove personally...
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I would definitely go to that festival. Can someone make it exist? (Not holding my breath for it being ATP)
Something like this?
www.last.fm/event/802783#lineup
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Work IT doesnt like last.fm.
What is it?
BLOC @ Butlins ( Friday 13 March 2009 – Sunday 15 March 2009 )
Lineup:
The Future Sound of London, Aphex Twin, Ulrich Schnauss, 4hero, Jamie Lidell, Lee "Scratch" Perry, Modeselektor, Busy P, Clark, Skream, Metro Area, Pole, Scientist, Ed Rush & Optical, Afrika Bambaataa, Green Velvet, Benga, Carl Craig, Zion Train, Mad Professor, Richard Devine, I-F, Pinch, Tipper, Altern 8, iTAL tEK, Robert Hood, Alexander Robotnick, Surgeon, Rusko, Global Goon, Joker, Otto Von Schirach, Appleblim, Radioactive Man, Ceephax Acid Crew, Kode9, Ben Sims, Si Begg, DJ QBert, 2562, Coki, The Egyptian Lover, Martyn, Heartbreak, Ebola, Bass Clef, Rustie, Dylan, James Ruskin, Daniel Bell, 2 Bad Mice, Dynamix II, Hudson Mohawke, Tim Exile, DJ Godfather, Plastician, Peverelist, Arabian Prince, Bizzy B, Redshape, Transparent Sound, Hecker, Drums Of Death, Cosmic Force, Isa GT, Billy Nasty, October, French Kiss, Rob Da Bank, pfadfinderei & modeselektor, ADJ, Russell Haswell, Luke's Anger, Ed Chamberlain, Fre, Jamie Vex'd, Colin Dale, Jerome Hill, AGT Rave Cru, Jackmaster, Totally Enormous Extinct Dinosaurs, BeardyMan, Full Nelson, EmptySet, Frequency 7, Pathic, Robyn Chaos, Rob Hall, Ed DMX, P45, D'Explicit, Andy Blake, Lief Ryan, DJ Undecided, Joe Hart, DJ BENETTI, Blazey, MCMash Clan, JUNQ, Oliver Way, Steve Strawberry, Lusinda, Alex Downey, Louis Enchante, Amental, Sgt. Pokes, MC Omega, Pfadfinderei, James Tec, Rebel Intelligence, Raf Daddy, george 'the skull' hull, the great mentsch, rodaidh & piers, china & the black ripper, michel dupont and french connection duo
Ah
Yeah I should probably go to bloc at some point.
It's not quite so much FUN as the one suggested above though.
That beats any ATP line up of recent years
I would have gone if I was in the country
The line up of BLOC
Yeah that's very decent indeed, and each year I swear I WILL go.
But ATP have the brand power and contacts to get some big hitters in these guys can't afford yet, or bring about some cool reformations a lot of our generation may have missed out on.
True, a good 60% of that list is covered there but it's also some of the crossover acts that are a bit niche for BLOC that'd work well at ATP i reckon...
The only thing with Bloc is that it will be taken by 90% of attendees as an absolute mashup
And ATP is nice because there is that level of chilled when you don't want to go crazy.
I think campaigning for more electronic & dance music at ATP seems like a damn good plan.
Did you hear that Summers!
In the words of Trevor Jackson's Playgroup: "Make it happen"
There'd be at least 4 of us there.
Other musical suggestions below please:
I dunno
I kind of imagine that atp will carry on doing exactly as they want to and that people will go or not go as they see fit.
I'm not sure i understand your reasons for not going to bloc - it doesn't have the brand power of atp?! If it's fun time party music that you want, i'd say it's probably best to vote with your feet.
I don't recognise 90% of that bloc line-up, but i'm fairly sure it'd get people dancing.
Hmm
It's a great lineup, but some of us would enjoy a festival which mixed ATP type stuff with Bloc type stuff and even added a bit more of a pop element to proceedings. And was still at Butlins. We can dream.
It's a bit hardcore for me
Not got the tunes and 'air' of some of the acts I listed or the slight leanings more towards indie than full on dance / electro. It's good, but it'd be a fairly hardcore and slightly one dimensional undertaking.
I'm planning to go to Bloc next year
But what's nice about ATP is the ability to take it relatively easy when the time calls for it. If any of the other dance festivals I've been to are any indication, Bloc would be pretty relentless. Which would be fun, but it would be nice to be able to go and watch some droney/folky stuff occasionally amid all the electro/techno/dubstep.
one dimensional?
not even close man. with that line up you'd hear shit that'd make you dance like a motherfucker AND stuff that blow your mind far more than any chin strokey ATP band
re: this idea though, it doesn't really make sense to commemorate ten years of a festival with a bill that is completely different to everything they've done before. you're basically saying "wouldn't it be cool if ATP was a completely different festival to the one it is?". the festival you're describing is basically melt/dour/pukkelpop/one of many festivals on mainland europe, why not just go to one of those? why must ATP fill *every* niche because it fills a few? besides, i think a festival of awkward beardy guys awkwardly, beardily dancing to bloghouse and aesop rock sounds like the anti-party to me
Fair points
And I suspect you're right and that it will be a kind of 'Best of' weekend when it gets announced.
I wasn't necessarily saying that ATP shouldn't be what it currently is though, just that I feel it could do with livening it up a tad at times, especially in the evenings.
Some of the best ATP moments for me have been the ones I least expected (Lightning Bolt / Dave Lovering's magic set / Oxxes / LCD Soundsystem / Dizzee Rascal / Aphex Twin's techno set / Murs / Mission of Burma) but a great deal of them had a tune to them, or a beat, or just a feeling that made you wanna dance.
And I just reckon that some of the people above feel like they 'fit' with the ATP brand. A whole weekend of theme would possibly be too much or not enough like an ATP event, but it'd just be nice to see things mixed up a bit... that's all.
They need to do a punk one.
now this is clearly what i'm talking about
or like a Download at Butlins
BUTTLOAD!
well I thought that
as far as eclecticism and upbeat the Explosions In The Sky ATP line-up was superb, it was absolutely heart wrenching to miss that one!
yes!
I was thinking about this the other day. I'm sorry you missed it because in hindsight it was probably my favourite atp experience.
I would go to ATP Vs Vamos
Haven't been to one yet; I get all my ATP bands at Primaveram which (IMHO) has a better mix of beard stroking and upbeat happy music.
I'd go to that in a second. It's been crying out for a full on fun/party lineup.
Would have to be a summer one though.
I've always thought that the one thing ATP lacks
is some good music to dance to after the bands have finished. I thought that the Pitchfork one might break the trend and get some techno/dubstep in there, but sadly I was wrong. Not that I'm complaining mind you. Apart from Slint every single one I've been to has been awesome.
Battles?
Holy Fuck?
Aphex Twin?
yeah?
100-fucking-percent.
The ATP 10 year line is very - 'so....'
I still love every ATP I've been to
But I just remember how awesome it was ending the 5 Year Celebratory one with LCD Soundsystem, Dizze Rascal & Har Mar Superstar and reckon a bit more of it would be great to mix it up a little.
That ATP was amazing.
Peel was there too. I don't think they've ever topped that one for quality of acts - Trad Gras Och Stenar were my new best friends for the weekend.
The Melvins/Patton and Autechre ones have been my favourites by a mile. These days I go to ATP for a fun weekend with my friends. I'm happy to see the old faves there but it rarely feels like an 'event' any more. After this year's shindigs I'm definitely going to Bloc instead next year if it happens.
I think we all wish ATP would put on line-ups that were exactly to our taste
I personally wish they would do a proper metal one.
I would like an ATP
of baseball-stadium organ music.
If you'd been there the day the Yeah Yeah Yeahs curated
you'd have seen Celebration delivering almost exactly that. It was brilliant.
Sounds like the old Dedbeat festival they used to have in the Pontins at Hemsby (!)
IN 2003 I saw:
El P
Edan
Blackalicious
Dose one & Boom Bip
Buck 65
Hellfish
Mike Paradinas
Luke Vibert
Stingray
Andy Weatherall
Pitman
~And managed to miss
Brand Nubian
MIke Ladd
Aesop Rock
The Bug
Ceephax
Venetian Snares
Quite some festival! I remember almost nothing about it.
If only I'd known who any of those people were at the time...
Mudhoney and Melvins are way fun
Yeah I know
But after a whole day of guitar based music, all I'm saying is it'd be nice sporadically to hear something a bit more electronic.
There are loads of great grunge bands, great doom bands, great hip hop acts and great electro acts. It just seems to me that ATP doesn't like to put on too many of the latter, and that there's a good opportunity for them to do so whilst keeping the same ethos and feel they've now established.
Maybe I'm the one who doesn't quite get the ATP brand, but I just reckon there's room to liven one of the 3 or 4 weekends a year up a touch, thats all...
Well being as this is thread eight you've started saying 'can ATP put something fun on please?'
I'm going with that last paragraph, personally :)
See, this is why I don't venture onto the music forum very much...
1. I have ill thought out views crudely rushed out in the form of something called a 'thread'.
2. These views are limited by my musical knowledge being somewhat stunted.
3. These are views I seemingly tend to repeat a fair amount or else Bamos has some kind of DiSser monitoring spreadsheet on the go.
Apologies for anyone who has read this before. I like ATP. A lot. Honest Jamie. Hence why I've gone to about 7 of the fuckers. I just wish it had some more electronica / hip hop in there sometimes as when it does, it's always seemingly very popular and I get to dance for a bit.
Maybe I should I start up a topic about the merits of Girls Aloud or that FOTL track-by-track run through instead?
^ knows what's what
Much as I love ATP, it mystifies me how little electronic stuff there is these days, particularly given how well it goes down with the crowd.
Best lineup of any festival ever: http://www.atpfestival.com/Events/ATPAutechre/LineUp.php
Maybe all of the suggestions could be used for
the other 17 NBC's they are going announce once the nine and a half year party has sold out....
LOL SATIRE
I was sick at the Autechre ATP
NOT the best one for me. Blergh.
No, post rock and sad sad folk only.