what does count as emo these days? seems to be coming a catch all term (a bit like 'indie') for anyone in a trucker cap who isn't Pharell from the Neptunes.
Spy Versus Spy were the bollocks. I'll second that about The Anniversary's début, too. Other than that, you can't go wrong with a bit of Braid - well, a lot of Braid, really.
seriously tho, if you're going by textbook Emo (whatever the fuck that is, bar complete and utter shite on a stick) - i'd say Sunny Day - at least that's who my Emo buddies jack off to constantly - can't see it myself tho -
The Rasmus? WHAT. A. BUNCH. OF. WANK.
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Emo's become such a subjective term that this thread's a bit pointless. In fact it's almost a contradiction in terms as emo is used almost solely in a derogatory sense now.
Having said that, I'd say the best emo (if you can call it that) would be stuff like Appleseed Cast, Sunny Day, Rites Of Spring, Quicksand, Rival Schools etc. I've still got a soft spot for Thursday too, though...
no thatwas cruel!
just because hey came on 45 mins before they were due cos another band pulled out and none of ther fans were there at t e right time!!!!
some people actualy bought their ticket justto see the rasmus!!!
I'm going to be patronising and arrogant, but I feel you have left me with no choice.
Please, please learn to spell before dictating to GROWN UPS about what music to listen to. There is no excuse for making shit music. NONE. At all.
This is what happens when hormonal teenagers get given money to buy their own CDs. I had an older brother to vet my music taste, and how glad I am for it.
ok i did not actually get given money to go out and buy their cd! i was typing in random words on the internet and it gave you a link i clicked on it and i heard their stuff and loved it!!
soo if ur wantin to blame someone/thing for getting people into the rasmus blame the internet!!!
you should try and listen to some of their old stuff before you take "dramatic steps"!!!!!
I think bottling them off stage was sad as it comes...there are plenty of other things to see if you don't like what is on the main stage. They were asked to play, unlike Dafne and Celeste who invited theselves along and thoroughly deserves a good bottle of piss right between the eyes...hurrah!
I'm so glad I have a younger sister who I've told that if she ever liked the rasmus, I'd kick her teeth in.
When I was her age, I didn't have good music taste like she does. Thanks to me, she likes the Ramones and the Clash. And she's 13.
Yay for older brothers/sisters!
if they had any balls they would have stuck it out. 50 cent got through 5 songs and was doing fine until someone threw a chair at him. he might be shit but he aint scared of water. fuckin rasmus. bloodless little shitbag pussies.
Can't you see how it was an act of altruism? Had he not bottled them along with everyone else, then they would have subjected impressionable hormonal teenagers to their crap shite for even longer. He could have seen something he wanted to, but didn't, out of concern for the kids.
i mean, i dont like 50 cent. but he put up with it good. he was enjoying the villain status. not even getting through one song and running off with yr tail between yr legs is just pathetic. no commitment. no nothing. empty.
yeah, they should have had someone come on stage with a big stick and beat them all over the head...that would have shown how tough they are grrr yeah!
It's not a great argument really...
i do get what you're saying i just think it's wank. why should a band play when people who are throwing things at them? that's rubbish. you should have gone to see something else if you didn't like them. nothing gives you the right to ruin other people's enjoyment.
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have you actually been in a band?? people could have been throwing BRICKS at my band, we love what we are doing so much, we have so much faith in it, there is NO FUCKING WAY we would turn and run from an aggressive crowd. anyone who does doesnt deserve to be there. you have to fuckin BRING IT. the rasmus didnt bring ANYTHING. if they had played on i would have gained some respect for them despite their awful kiddie goth-pop shit and excreble fashion sense. as it stands, they let down their fans by walking off. 50 cent proved himself, to me at least. and i suspect to some others too. the rasmus didnt prove anything except that they have no bottle except a plastic bottle in the back of the head as they were bullied offstage.
but people throwing bricks at your band wouldn't have been right would it? even if you were utter crap people didn't have to listen if they didn't want to. see what i'm saying?
bricks are worse than bottles. bricks can hurt people. that's not cool. but bottles of water?? thats fine. they bounce off, and you don't die. I don't see a problem. people throw water over bands in approval too - you dont see courtney love walking off when the fans spray her with beer, or karen o. or anyone with a bit of fuckin class.
spraying isn't the same as a full bottle which thrown with force i would argue can hurt like a bastard, or a bottle of piss... oh forget it, i'm bored now
thats what i was getting at really. if you can get through that, even people who arent on yr side will end up with some grudging respect. know what i mean? anyway. i'm going to watch bullitt.
Thn I'll assume you're tone deaf, ms. Psycho - i appreciate you're only young, but i'm sure in time your music tastes will develop towards something resembling decent - Btw, have you heard/seen their pre-goth stage - i almost crapped my pants!
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ah come on! bottling bands has always been a part of rock'n'roll!
And for a band with what I can only assume are ENORMOUS salaries, I wouldn't complain about a dodgy festival or two.
If they didn't take themselves so seriously, none of this would have happened. No one bottles Blink 182, 'cos although they are just as wank, they are FUN, which STOPS people getting all psycho with bottles of piss on their asses.
hey mooseman you spelt my name wrong!!!!
hey now can we please shut up about the rasmus!!!
their a good band but u just dont know it yet!!!!
read this weeks kerrang and then u'll see how good they are!!!!
hey i take it i'll just try to defend the reasmus on my own then!
just imagine ur in a band and ur on stage performin and then u or one of ur band mates get whacked in the eye with a bottle wot the hell would u do???
walk of stage and get medical help for him/her of keep playing with out that instrument/singer???
what ever ur choice the rasmus decided that the best thing was to get medical help for the guy!!!!
which hopfully is what would happen if u were in the same situation!!!
SDRE aren't textbook emo. They're midwest emo (i.e. bedwetcore). Emo always used to be a type of hardcore - see Rites of Spring, Embrace (no not that Embrace), Moss Icon.
nah...it's like one of those questions like 'what's the meaning of life?' or, 'how much wood can a wood chuck chuck?' .... they're going to end up like homer. killing themselves over a riddle. (or was it plato? *ponders*)
Round here emo is a bit of a dirty word. I know it means well but you have to admit that some of it is a bit whiny. I suppose some people would class Fugazi and the Blood Brothers as emo so they are the best. Their not emo in my eyes though.
Rites of Spring are good as well
At the Drive-In were fairly emo. Musically, Biffy Clyro are pretty emo. Emo doesn't mean "any American indie rock that isn't metal". It is a genre of music, generally comprising dual guitar and vocals, making heavy use of loud-soft/stop-start dynamics, and melodic arpeggiated guitar parts. Why has it become a dirty word to describe things that have nothing to do with this style of music, i.e. Weezer or later Jimmy Eat World?
anyone who said thrice needs a fucking brain operation (ie. a hard blow to the head). i just downloaded 2 tracks and they were the worst. pathetic. radio-friendly crap that you'd expect to hear on some rubbish american tv programme or a driving game or something. just, really the fucking worst. awful.
shoot me but hey I love rival schools. I believe they were being taunted as emo when they arrived. Same for Q and not U. And I think even the mighty trail of dead or at the drive in even wore an emo tag for a bit
Post-Hardcore and Emo are extremely close to each other.
Thursday,Thrice, ATD-I i would say are Post hardcore also as you said Glassjaw. Emo is JEW and the Get up kids. Ten you have bands which include elements of both Taking Back Sunday and FFAF.
so if there is post-hardcore, what kind of bands are just hardcore?
am i right in thinking its stuff like sick of it all, minor threat, 18 visions...?
am confused.
Yeah there are two types of Hardcore. Hardcore Punk which is Minor Threat, SOIA and Blcak Flag etc. Around the mid to late 80s ther was the Rise of New York Hardcore more Metallic and Heavier than previous bands, with new babds such as Gorilla Biscuits and Agnostic Front.
Asa Harcore exists now it is closer to Metal than Punk. many of the bands use Metal Riffs but often with more screaming than Metal. There is also still a connetion to punk with the lighter side of Hardcore. The main bands include Converge, Hatebreed and Poison the Well.
Thursday are fully emo. One of the most archetypal emo bands there is at the moment. Why can nobody hear this, and why this is nothing like Jimmy Eat Fucking World? The Get Up Kids could possibly be described as "post-emo" or something (like "shit"). Taking Cack Sunday (i didn't mean to write that but I'll leave it), and Further Seems Forever are also emo. I think Poison the Well even describe themselves as "emo-metalcore" nowadays. Far were emo. At the Drive in could comfortably fit within the description, or even Glassjaw. Thrice, to my ears are more melodic hardcore with a bit of emo influence. Hot Water Music and Elliott are emo. As are Kids Near Water, Rydell or ...and None of Them Knew They Were Robots. Dashboard Confessional are not emo. Anybody getting the picture? Want to play the emo/not emo game? Hmmm? Anyone?
I think there's an extent to which the name "emo" been applied retrospectively to certain types of post-hardcore music. In an ideal world we wouldn't need to define the genre, but sometimes people need to stand up to petulant "waa, waa, i hate emo" (oh the irony) zealots like John Brainlove who appear to want to use the term out of context to dismiss music they consider to be beneath them, and to belittle those that gain enjoyment from it. And well done, John, it has made you sound knowledgeable, sophisticated and better at liking music than the rest of us. You have earned my respect.
I haven't read the rest of this thread, but here's my two cents worth;
If you want to kill a great band, just label them as emo, provided they have miserable lyrics and guitars.
So I want everyone to promise to only name very definitely emo bands as their "best ever", and in a spirit of complete irony, thereby avoiding innocent casualties.
With that said: Funeral for a friend are definitely the best emo band ever, leaving them with a simultaneous status of one of the worst bands ever.
i had decided to keep out of this emo thing but you cant mention mcfly in this without reading posts before putting your own on!!!!
cos im sure someone said they were totally shit!!!!not emo!!!!
they're shitty pop!!!!
i take it ur a pop person by the way you dont know wtf is what!!!!
(to the guy that hates loads of these!!!!!!!!)
i cant wait to see you and if what you said is true please hurry up im pretty busy!!!!xx
Will whoever the b*stard is who keeps using multiple exclamation marks is, please refrain, because it makes me want to find out where you live and kill every member of your family in front of you.
Exclamation marks - like laughing at your own jokes.
There's just emo and the lame fashion victim complaint rock that appeared in the last five years or so that many of 'The Kids' seem to like. Nu-Metal with tighter jeans and caps worn the correct way round.
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oh well we all cant havea brilliant taste in music like me now can we?!?!?!
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only kidding WHAT???????????????????271
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Oh, and Park.
Cheerio,
Ian
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i think i've lost all faith in humanity.
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a load of their old songs are ska!! about 12 of them any way!!!
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the rasmus = a load of fucking shite
therefore, you are mistaken, my friend.
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this is making me depressed.
fuck, now i feel emo.
thanks a lot, thanks a whole lot.
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every one feels emo some time in their lives!!!
your just a late starter!!!!hahahaha
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YES THEY FUCKING ARE!!
then what are they, retard?
P.S. did you actually go to art school or did you just try to come up with some artsy screen name?
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No I didn't go to art school. What do you take me for? I just like the word.
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as for the question-
Sunny Day Real Estate or Fugazi (not sure if fugazi counts as emo tho)
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The Rasmus? WHAT. A. BUNCH. OF. WANK.
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Having said that, I'd say the best emo (if you can call it that) would be stuff like Appleseed Cast, Sunny Day, Rites Of Spring, Quicksand, Rival Schools etc. I've still got a soft spot for Thursday too, though...
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for fucksake.
is thread this a windup designed to make me bust a blood vessel?
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the rasmus are the best band ive ever heard!!!!
and they aint a bunch of wank!!!
their really friendly!!!
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just because hey came on 45 mins before they were due cos another band pulled out and none of ther fans were there at t e right time!!!!
some people actualy bought their ticket justto see the rasmus!!!
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Please, please learn to spell before dictating to GROWN UPS about what music to listen to. There is no excuse for making shit music. NONE. At all.
This is what happens when hormonal teenagers get given money to buy their own CDs. I had an older brother to vet my music taste, and how glad I am for it.
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Just like at Reading, if anyone fancies digging that arguement out again.
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soo if ur wantin to blame someone/thing for getting people into the rasmus blame the internet!!!
you should try and listen to some of their old stuff before you take "dramatic steps"!!!!!
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When I was her age, I didn't have good music taste like she does. Thanks to me, she likes the Ramones and the Clash. And she's 13.
Yay for older brothers/sisters!
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i thought he was supposed to be hard?
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and people were throwing bottles of piss anyway not water
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It's not a great argument really...
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I'm right you are WRONG!
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#flicks antlers and trots off to the rest of the herd#
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And for a band with what I can only assume are ENORMOUS salaries, I wouldn't complain about a dodgy festival or two.
If they didn't take themselves so seriously, none of this would have happened. No one bottles Blink 182, 'cos although they are just as wank, they are FUN, which STOPS people getting all psycho with bottles of piss on their asses.
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hey now can we please shut up about the rasmus!!!
their a good band but u just dont know it yet!!!!
read this weeks kerrang and then u'll see how good they are!!!!
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get over ur self!!!!
hahahahahahahaha
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I can't believe
your first post was a grammatical correction of someone else's error.
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kerrang! have sunk as low as saying the rasmus are good? things have changed since I last read it...
well. not that much, really...
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just imagine ur in a band and ur on stage performin and then u or one of ur band mates get whacked in the eye with a bottle wot the hell would u do???
walk of stage and get medical help for him/her of keep playing with out that instrument/singer???
what ever ur choice the rasmus decided that the best thing was to get medical help for the guy!!!!
which hopfully is what would happen if u were in the same situation!!!
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Unless its fatal, The Show Must Go On. always.
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mwar.
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hello? what's going on?
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most emo rips off the twin guitar D.C. style of those bands.
idiot.
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It is emo as is Jimmy Eat World which im not celebrating. Its pretty much possible to claim anything is emo.
Except perhaps Fugazi, although...
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the rasmus is the best emo band!
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I suppose to most people emo does mean snivelling, whiny shit so the Rasmus would be number 1
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your mean.
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I did throw bottles at them, is that mean?
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its nt nice to thro bottles. grrr. #
carly
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Rites of Spring are good as well
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(see news on right)
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*shakes head and walks away in disgust, making a comment about children and independence to spend their own pocket money*
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and still Brand New.
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CASKET LOTTERY!!!!
Perhaps....
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Surely Glassjaw aren't emo?
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Thursday,Thrice, ATD-I i would say are Post hardcore also as you said Glassjaw. Emo is JEW and the Get up kids. Ten you have bands which include elements of both Taking Back Sunday and FFAF.
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Here's an interesting one- Lostprophets- POP or EMO?
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am i right in thinking its stuff like sick of it all, minor threat, 18 visions...?
am confused.
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Asa Harcore exists now it is closer to Metal than Punk. many of the bands use Metal Riffs but often with more screaming than Metal. There is also still a connetion to punk with the lighter side of Hardcore. The main bands include Converge, Hatebreed and Poison the Well.
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best emo band? er...i dunno, the boundaries of emo have been stretched so far that i no longer have any idea what's emo and what isnt...
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The way to destroy emo is with love and happiness!
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The way to destroy emo is with love and happiness!
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*poke* *poke* *stab*
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*poke poke poke*
*stab stab stabbity stab*
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caring that much? er...no.
:)
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"Do Not Tailgate" is a whining masterpiece!
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"what is your favourite STD?"
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super powers i think.
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but how did he do that?
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Maybe he has a robot to help him
Or maybe, just maybe he's a fast typer
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maybe he just has two windows open at the same time.
trying to get his post count up tsk tsk
*shakes head disapprovingly*
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booya.
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Next you'll be digging up that old "...no picture...on profile" thread, just to crash all our computers, out of badness...
Starting to think that you may be the "alter-ago" culprit and not Mr Brainlove afterall!
;-)
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If you want to kill a great band, just label them as emo, provided they have miserable lyrics and guitars.
So I want everyone to promise to only name very definitely emo bands as their "best ever", and in a spirit of complete irony, thereby avoiding innocent casualties.
With that said: Funeral for a friend are definitely the best emo band ever, leaving them with a simultaneous status of one of the worst bands ever.
<Runs away quick>
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far - water & solutions
onelinedrawing - visto
promise ring - nothing feels good
cursive - domestica
good life - album of the year
thursday -waiting
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fucks sake...get it right people
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*smacks head as joke backfires*
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if this message board had signatures, this gem would be quoted by me.
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cos im sure someone said they were totally shit!!!!not emo!!!!
they're shitty pop!!!!
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Everyone knows i'm not being serious.
you, however, were being serious when you called The Rasmus ska. hahahaha!
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(to the guy that hates loads of these!!!!!!!!)
i cant wait to see you and if what you said is true please hurry up im pretty busy!!!!xx
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but i do prefer to be called miss cunt if thats all right with you???
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Exclamation marks - like laughing at your own jokes.
Oh yeah and Radiohead are the best emo band.
<ducks flying piss bottles>
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good god.
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taking back sunday
hundred reasons
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Emo has to be the most stupid name for any genre, if music isn't emotional, then what is it?
Playing loads of minor chords and wailing doesn't make music emotional. Its just makes it shallow and pointless.
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alive! we will keep it alive!
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There seems to be general confusion as to what emo is, and the difference between blatant pop music- The Rasmus? - and whatever emo means this week.
Too many genres. Should just be whitebread music, and then good music.
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who likes pancakes?
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*hopes this makes people retch*
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taking back sunday
biffy clyro
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bayside
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They have emo tendancies but they aren't an emo band.
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by far ;)
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i reccon that both 'elite' and 'Uomni D´Onore' get the vote over 'do not tailgate'...
SDRE
Mineral
This thread reads like a You Tube video comment...
it's fucking horrific.
Also, with a few honourable exceptions anyone under the age of 26 should ban themselves from responding.
not very fair.
i'm 19 and i listen to a lot of "proper" emo, i find that insulting.
Well you're on an honourable exception then, aren't you?
There's no such thing as 'proper' emo though.
There's just emo and the lame fashion victim complaint rock that appeared in the last five years or so that many of 'The Kids' seem to like. Nu-Metal with tighter jeans and caps worn the correct way round.
Diet Goth.
at the drive-in
surely?