just look at him, if i could have one punch of any face it would be his.

they're rubbish anyway

Slightly mean but understandable. They made a great first album and I saw them at a small gig in Bristol before it had all gotten to Craig. That night they were all very personable and I enjoyed the gig (as did a watching James Dean Bradfield). Since then, they've made a crap second album and Craig has gone from 'misunderstood genius' to just plain unpleasant. He needs to sort his head out, but the only reasons I care are because a) this about more than just music, it's about the health of a human being and b) because if they could make an album as good as the first then I'd be interested again.

And above all, "Get Free" was fantastic.

Furthermore - what the fuck are Incubus up to? Choosing First Brand New and now The Vines as support acts. Have they no taste these days???!!!

Perhaps he's having a strop because he knows that Winning Days is crap. Which is fair enough. I wouldn't want to tour a crap album.

has anyone any idea who is going to replace The Vines at Reading / Leeds?, if you look at the main stage line-up it isn't that brilliant, i don't think any of the stages have that strong a line-up this year unfortunately,

Bah!

The Vines are shite anyway.

No loss.

Highly Evolved was a good album
Winning Days is pretty poor in comparison

But when Craig's having a 'good' day, he's fucking amazing live!

& throwing a strop about the Shins?!
WHY WHY WHY - the Shins are absolutely awful.

Oh thank god!!!!!! Best news I heard in a while. Please spilt up!

The Shins are the best band on the planet right now

i think that's slightly harsh.
It's worrying, his health I mean, poor man.

I do love the first album, but there are only a handfull of good songs on the latest one. and they do put on a good live show, from what I've seen.

bothered am i not. one hit wonder bands suck! isn't there song on a commercial now? yes! ride, any good music in adverts? Jet, aqualung, Lenny kravitz, No!and now the vines, No! No! No! No! No!
ahhhh but the killers are on an e4 advert for something, 1 exception. and no the vines suck live, craig prances about like a retarded brat torrettes kid on speed they dont play as a band all.

well, in my opinion, they were good when I saw them, but each to his own eh.

if I buy you beer are u goin to be my fan forever?

The Highly Evolved album is on my ipod, and i do enjoy listening to it until it gets about half way through the album. Then it gets pretty crap - 'Mary Jane' hints at being bothered again...

i just burnt my nuggets. fuck.

Yes, and so ... who gives a fuck? Nirvana did it and did it much better. We don't need Nirvana tribute bands anyway.

Bothered.

i dont like a single song on highly evolved. its shit.

I have met Craig and he was really nice and lovely.

i saw them play a couple of months back and they zere amazing. Why do so many people make stupid comments on here, things like "if i could have one punch of any face it would be his."? It's just idiotic! The man's ill, just give it a rest, he's made some excellent music and I've met him and he is a really nice guy.

well said.

He's just another indie star who's burnt out after one album and now is going down the plughole. Anyone see the link below?

Pete Doherty-Craig from't Vines-Jonny Borrell?

I know people might get a bit edgy about what i just said there but it's inevitable isn't it?

Lets add Som Wardner to that list.

What a shame, bless My Vitriol, what IS going on with them?! Never really got into The Vines. We played their new one at work when it came out, I liked the first song and the rest was a bit pants sorry to say. They always seemed a little bit shouty.

This is what you get when smug, pretentious NME journalists decide to over-hype a very average band with a palpably disturbed lead singer / writer and then sit back to watch the inevitable carnage - it's called 'Create Your Own Rock Martyr' (cf. The Libertines), it's cynical and amoral beyond all fucking belief, and it stinks. The first album, once all the hysterical bluster had died down, was very ordinary indeed, with maybe one or two stand-out tracks; the band when I saw them live were abysmal with Craig Nicholls clearly already in some alternative la-la world of his own making; and it sounds as though the 2nd album marks the inevitable final crash to earth. I hope that Nicholls is alright because mental illness is pretty foul and it's not his fault. But hopefully he'll be allowed to retire into peaceful mediocrity now and deal with his demons. As for those gobshites at the NME - did anyone see that sanctimonious bullshit article the other week, tracking Nicholls' downfall whilst conveniently forgetting that the band only ever made any kind of a splash because the NME made so much noise about this 'amazing' new band from Oz, their 'zany', unpredictable lead singer, and "the best debut album ever"? - don't want that blood on your hands after all, eh guys?

I'm so dissapointed about that. I saw The Vines in May in Southampton and they were bloody fantastic, Craig was obviously having a good day and they played a spectacular show, easily the best I've ever seen. People are really overly harsh on him, he's obviously ill but people just like to take the piss out of him for being a 'nutjob' My friends met him at the show and said he was a genuinely lovely guy and he obviously just gets overwhelmed with everything surrounding him. I hope he gets better and they make another great album like 'Highly Evolved' or even just a very good album like 'Winning Days' (yes, I did think it was very good.)

Oh, and they're being replaced by Razorlight and The New York Dolls.

why the hell have they cut ryan out of the picture? fucking wankers.

Dunno which is which but the one on the right looks like Steve McManaman.

the hamish?

Razorlight and the new york dolls were to replace the Vines but who knows now that the NYD is missing one superstar.