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by yo_soy_welshmun

What religion are/were you?

I'm a non-believing, non-denominational (or something) baptist of some type, I forget. But I was delivered by a Nun, this means I suffer from Catholic guilt, yay!

yo_soy_welshmun | 05 Jul '06, 16:11 | Send note | Report this | Reply

which one is the one where

you get a sword? I'll be that.


Sikh

yeah. I fancy that too. See you down the temple/mosque thing that we Sikhs go to.


I'm so there.


I'm a Jedi!

Look, I even filled the 'religion' bit on my census form in as that! I'm so wacky! Feel the Force!


so 2000

L


people like you

RUINED the 2001 census for the rest of us. RUINED IT.


but

you don't even LIKE star wars.
faker.


Shut up!

Look at my light sailor! Feel the force! I am a real Jedi!


nothing.

at all.


I was, I suppose, a bog standard Church of England Christian

until I learnt to think, born of two 'spiritual' parents with no assigned religion. Any christianity I was brought up on was either a sham to get into schools or gift-related. (christmas,easter)


I'm an atheist

but i once talked to god: he called me a cunt


I'm an atheist.

I deny the existence of any divine beings.
And renounce all organised religions.

That doesn't mean that spirituality doesn't exist at all. There are definitely 'spiritual' needs that people have as high-functioning animals, and questions that get thrown up because of self awareness etc. But I don't think literal readings of addled, overblown, diluted and doctored historical accounts leadng to near-nonsensical belief systems are the way to go, to be honest.


went to Church of England schools

all of my life. technically i should be some sort of christian. but i'm now a non-believer.


I don't know what religion it makes me, but I refuse to believe that anything exists at all. All this trees, continents, and people walking the earth malarkey is just made up bollocks, isn't it?


I'm an atheist

Haven't been baptised, don't believe in God.


officially i *think* i'm methodist.

i thought i was church of ireland (god, even more of a non church than the church of england), until last year when i saw my baptism video (aged 5) and my dad told me it was a methodist church. my mum is MENTAL. i went to a catholic primary school and methodist secondary school, and now, i really hate religion.


YES! a methodist!

or a methodairist?


yes....

a 'methodairist'


I was never interested in religion, though I did like the colours and smells of church when I was a kid.

I stopped going when I was about twelve.

My atheism was re-affirmed by political and intellectual concerns a few years later.

I depsise organised religion, and I think less of people at an intellectual level if they have genuine faith.


i'm not sure if i agree with you on that,

but what is your reasoning behind it?


I think less of people

who have decided something doesnt exist, when there is no evidence either way...


No it's not

You have no evidence that there is no God, yet have decided that none exists.

That seems silly to me.


"You have no evidence that there is no God, " That is the dumbest reasoning and indicates the intrinsic dishonesty in religion. I do not have "evidence" that fairies don't exist, that ghosts don't exist, that nothing exists apart from me.

Your postulation that "evidence" of non-existence of something silly is required is diametrically opposed to sentient intelligent reasoning and does not belong to humanity.


Still

I now think less of your intelligence.

A reasonable person would at least remain open to the possibility.

I don't believe in Fairies, but I see no reason to categorically deny they exist, as I simply DO NOT KNOW this.

Really John. Sometimes you are wrong...


I'm nothing.

I am reading the bible at the moment though. Some of it is hilarious.


closer to 900 I think.

everyone who originated from adam and eve (pre-noah's ark) was around this age and had kids when they were about 200.


until god thought they were all fuckwits

and should live to 50


officially im a roman catholic

but I'm beginning to question it all. I'll be very surprised if I'm not an athiest 5 years from now.


I was baptised Roman Catholic

but stopped going to church many, many years ago after deciding it was mostly bullshit. I now consider myself to be agnostic, as I don't really care if there is some divine being controlling the universe or not.

I have great respect for people with faith, the Catholic community I was brought up in was full of wonderful and highly tolerant people, but I can't stand those who try to shove their faith down other peoples' throats.

Dismissive, arrogant atheists who believe themselves to be intellectually superior to anyone with faith piss me right off too.


"Dismissive, arrogant atheists who believe themselves to be intellectually superior to anyone with faith piss me right off too."

Tough.


Oh Mr. Traynor,

if there were no snobby, judgemental fuddy-duddies like you around to piss me off, the world would be a very boring place indeed.


They found his ark!

Maybe.


Where have I heard that before?

Baptist IS a denomination, isn't it?


;

I've made up my own god. He's as real as anyone else's, and I can identify with him better than any of the standard ones.

I don't like organised religion. It's like everyone having the same CD collection and being satisfied.


Atheist

I think Jehovah's Witnesses can smell it on me, cos they never argue whenever I'm lumbered with the job of telling them to piss off.


I think Traynors statement was mistakenly interpreted by fullerov

cos I dont think he dismissed that there might be 'something else' that he has no proof of, he quite rightly dissed the intellect of people who believe in a 'faith' (of course a lot of people may follow a faith cos they feel there may be something else, and although they dont exactly believe all the rubbish in some of the doctrines they havnt emancipated themselves from the dogmatic faith.....perhaps because there are many practical social relationship/peer reasons to stay in a 'community'.....this is a problem because the numbers get totted up all the same and the normal dogmatic conflict ensues between the leaders/fanatical literal believers in a human written text.

John is right to be extreme in his put downs towards sheep like behaviour, unfortunately he is often slightly misinterpreted.


Although having said that

the other evening I had an interesting communion with jesus as an entity, it made me feel both warm and guilty.....guilty, because I would like to be really really good (acording to my own standards) the entity/construct that was jesus, remonstrated with me pointing out that I sometimes indulged my vices, that i allowed myself to be less than perfect, my argument being that I didnt want to be, that I am supremely happy being a dirty human, he pointed out that I am lazy however and allowed my ideals not to be made reality, I said yeah, but what are the chances of that happening, he said try harder, I said Ive got kids, he said fair point, but I could still be less lazy, I said fair point, he pointed out that I could be just as good as him if I tried really hard and suceeded in turning some bad things in the world round without being misinterpreted.....we both laughed at this point, we discussed the fact that I am not self sacrificing enough (family allowing) and came to the conclusion that it is all a matter of belief that what you do can make a difference, he seemed to agree that today it is more difficult as there is now a plethera of noise nowadays......a kind of white noise of philosophies/cod religeon/spiritualism, he also agrees that mammon has grown somewhat since the time he was reputed to live in.

Anyways for those of you guys that need it he told me that you shouldnt be so hard on yourself but that you must try harder, dont beat yourself for many things but try not to be so lazy....try again

Disclaimer....I may have been under the influence





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