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BANG!: S'only a Rock'n'Roll Rag. Out Now.

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by Sean Adams
In need of a decent mag to read on the bus, train, loo??

The music press ain't totally dead, as Careless Talk and Organ both attest. But launched this week - at a party where members of DiS broke the excess barriers and got battered on bottle after bottle from the free bar - is a new mag to add to your rag rack. It's called BANG! and some of the folks from DiS are involved in it (the DiS editor is doing a regular column called Transit and contributing news).

The first issue includes a big interview with Flaming Lips, The Warlocks, Ladytron, and The Darkness. Plus loads of record reviews, everyone from Aphex Twin to White Stripes and back again via Evan Dando and Steven Wells Attacking Sonic Youth.

Pretty good read, first issue's only £1, next month's issue has a free cd. It's available everywhere, even WHSmith. Check out bangmagazine.co.uk for more info.

DiScuss: What do you think of the mag? Why on earth have they let the editor of DiS loose in its pages?


BANG!: S'only a Rock'n'Roll Rag. Out Now.

is it independent or is there a big publisher behind it?

looks like a cross between vox and uncut which i guess is not a bad thing as such

Re: BANG!: S'only a Rock'n'Roll Rag. Out Now.

tis: Future Publishing.

I say it's like Select trying to be Creem - but not really being Creem like it set out to be. Too many commerical compromises?

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It IS Select. And not only that it is like Select before Select died. Select died at the death of Britpop and Bang has launched at the death of garage rock. Christ.

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If it's only Rock n roll why the hell don't they feature some?? It's just pages and pages of HMV/Virgin/major label advertising, boring pansy Indie-pop with an unbelievable piece on how t.A.T.u are so fucking punk rock, man!! (I'm not joking! You did read that right)

Where's the rock? Instead just loads of bands who LOOK like they rock because they dress like bands that were so rocking back in the day - Interpol being one.

Just refer back to Creem magazine - they focussed on the bands that rocked the most at the time - It's now 2003, so why do we have to cover the same old-style retro-garage-rock bands? It is fucking boring!!!! Especially when you have bands like OKGO, like Instruction, like, From Autumn To Ashes, like Cult of Luna - bands with an edge - bands creating something NEW, something with BITE, bands who're most importantly willing to take RISKS in creating something new rather than re-hashing a tired sound!!

How long have the Flaming Lips been around? Yet, they're on the cover of a brand new magazine priding itself on having it's finger on the Pulse of new music!! What??? Go figure!

At least Careless Talk do cover bands, now and again, which take risks - Dillinger Escape Plan nestled next to Jon Spencer, next to Dinosaur Jr. And no mention of tATu in sight. Or did i just miss it?

ok rant over

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yeh i agree, i subsribe to the mag coz its pretty darn funny....but if its only rock n roll why does it feature t.a.t.u, byoncé, britney spears etc etc etc

Flaming Lips? Garage?

Er... I'm confused.
And I wouldn't have said Polyphonic Spree were garage, or good for that matter.

Re: Flaming Lips? Garage?

Interesting in parts for 1st attempt.
Great illustrations
Inoffesnsive logo (they should've used the one featured later in the mag instead)
Also not a good idea to alienate your audience by slagging of Sonic Youth, the new Stephen Malkmus record and then highlighting how great the new Evan Dando rec is.
COME ON SORT IT OUT
we need it a few notches up and more innovative writers (tone down the wacky writing style which is just embarassing in parts)

Am so glad I found this forum cos I needed to get this off my chest badly.

Now I can relieve myself

Re: Flaming Lips? Garage?

Perhaps you should look further than just the front cover.

Re: Flaming Lips? Garage?

I think you're mistaken in thinking that articles/reviews are written on the front cover. Are you a Bang writer or something?

Re: Flaming Lips? Garage?

no, he/she is probably another lame DiS writer getting offended!!

Re: Flaming Lips? Garage?

If you think DiS writers are lame then why do you read DiS?

Re: Flaming Lips? Garage?

Maybe he just looks at the pictures like me

BANG!: S'only a Rock'n'Roll Rag. Out Now.

i like the gloom brothers

they were good when they wrote for circuit so i bought the mag to check them out here as well

its not bad - kind of like a 'cool' select - could do with bringing the look in back eh

good but get rid of the virgin megastore adverts and look after the indies please - theyre in enough mags at it is and nobody shops with them anyway *toot*

BANG!: S'only a Rock'n'Roll Rag. Out Now.

Why wasn't I informed of the party? Or anyone else for that matter?

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In case we embarrased him infront of his showbiz lurvies *grin*

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I can embarass myself pretty darn well myself.

FYI: Didnt tell everyone else cus I didnt have any spare tickets. Peter and Ollie Russian came of their own accord.

Geez.

BANG!: S'only a Rock'n'Roll Rag. Out Now.

Im disappointed with it. It offers nothing new in terms of band coverage - Ladytron and Interpol? They're in every other magazine. Aren't new publications meant to offer alternatives?

I paid my £1 for it, but when the next issue costs £3.30? probably not...

And the only other thing is that it seems to be a home largely for old hacks - see Andrew Mueller, Steven Wells and someone else who's name I forget... Its hardly the future.

Not bad, but not different. Which is possibly the most damning thing I could say about it.

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Swells has been an old hack for a long time, that's his job

but still, he gave me a good review a few years ago, i can't complain

ollie.

BANG!: S'only a Rock'n'Roll Rag. Out Now.

I counted over 20 spelling/grammar errors/inaccurate facts and that was without looking. Sack the sub-editor, that's what I reckon.

It promised yet never delivered. The reviews are short and dull like every other paper, and I can read about these bands everywhere else. They offered no alternative whatsoever.

The website has that dull 'music biz' joke "hallways of pimps and thieves, but there's a negative side etc..." attributed to Hunter S. Thompson, who never once uttered those words in his entire life.

Can somebody please be pedantic about this shit, it's getting boring...

BANG!: S'only a Rock'n'Roll Rag. Out Now.

Thought it was quite good cos it combines pretty pictures a la The Face, and some pretty interesting articles (Dead Fashion!? - what's that all about?) BUT i think there are too many reviews and when it goes up to the normal price of £3.30 it'll be a little expensive.

BANG!: S'only a Rock'n'Roll Rag. Out Now.

did anyone else feel just ever so slightly patronised while reading it?
only swells kept me going throughout
only swells had any identity in the mag
shame

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i saw it in WHSmiths the other day, i was tempted butafter all the bad feeback here, hmm... if the Swells man features well in it, prehaps i will give it a try

yeah, next time i hit town to but fighting and fashion mags, i'll grab a copy

ollie.

Re: BANG!: S'only a Rock'n'Roll Rag. Out Now.

Finally picked up a copy. I quite like it actually. Though from all the critisism it has recieved may have lowered my expectations, there is some good stuff in there. Neil Kulkani's reviws for instance and Taylor Parkes made Ladyton sound interesting - tell me that's not an achievement.
Promising, I'd say.

Re: BANG!: S'only a Rock'n'Roll Rag. Out Now.

is Taylor Parkes still going? isn't he supposed to be off somewhere beating up his girlfriend?

what?

ollie.

Re: BANG!: S'only a Rock'n'Roll Rag. Out Now.

Why the hell are Taylor Parkes, Neil Kulkarni, Steven Wells, Simon Price et al still music journalists? Shouldn't they have proper jobs by now?

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what's Swells going to do? be in toothpaste commercials?

ollie.

Well, when

ou see some of the shocking copy that the current new breed of NME hacks shit out.......then jeez, gimme Kulkani and Swells and Parkes etc anyfuckingday

Also, Kulkani&Swells' invective and disgust are regularly the only things worth reading in metal hammer these days, so frankly long may they continue. If NME and some of the comedy writing on DiS comprise the future of New Music Journalism then frankly may it rest in peace.

Bang! talk leads to this....!!!!

TOP 10 Best music journalists/writers/critics of all time (disgarding the ones I've never read, naturally - so most of the Americans!):
1 Charles Shaar Murray (the daddy, knowledgable, exciting & great taste in music - turned me on to Patti Smith & John Lee Hooker and made me re-apprecaite hendrix)
2 Johnny Rogan (the definitive Smiths biog, a great Neil Yound book and the ONLY man you'll ever need for the Byrds)
3 Nick Kent (amazing, but loses top place for worshipping Iggy, who's not really that great)
4 Simon Price (excellent in Bang! this month, and we've all read his outstanding Manics book)
5 Keith Cameron - oooh how much better did Mojo get when he got on board, I still remember a review of Shellac he did for the NME which was just outstanding.
6 Kitty Empire - the last great NME journalist, was listening to Rival Schools, Fugazi and Boards Of Canada when all the losers were sucking up to Julian C.
7 Ian McDonald - Revolution In The Head, need I say more?
8 Lester Bangs - often awful but his Clash article, his "review" of Astral weeks and his stuff on the Troggs is outrageous
9 Patrick Humphries - great Nick Drake biog. a good read!
10 jon savage - supposedly he wasn't great at the NME but his book on Punk is great

TOP 5 WORST

1 Steven Wells (not only does he talk rubbish, but he slaggs all the obvious stuff - anyone can lay into sonic Youth, c'mon slay some real dragons, isn't it time for a Nirvana backlash?

2 Mark Beaumont - the shittest, awfulest crappest writer the NME have ever had. He's so bad he doesn't deserve to be at Number One

3 Tony Parsons - love "Man And Boy", despite its over-sentimentality, hate his music writing

4 Julie Burchill - oh dear

5 Greil Marcus - you are trying TOO hard

Re: Bang! talk leads to this....!!!!

Swells has been on at Sonic Youth for as long as i can remember, as for your list of god writers, well, i don't really like music writers that much, the best i've read have been on DiS (believe it or not) but really i like the (tiny amount of) stuff i write the most

i mean, shouldn't it be that way?

ollie.

Re: Bang! talk leads to this....!!!!

ha ha!!

of course the real number one best writer of all time is me!!!!


Re: Well, when

kulkarni is awesome.

swells is good when he breaks out of his own cliches. read something by him recently, blood brothers/winnebago deal review, which was excellent, but half the time he's a parody of himself.

x
gen

Re: BANG!: S'only a Rock'n'Roll Rag. Out Now.

Ollie takes what he reads on Popbitch at face value.
That says everything.

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did they report it as well? he really does get around doesn't he, i supose they were asking for it etc.. and if not popbitch, who can you believe?

now, I'm going to raid town to get me a copy of this thing.. for reasons of science only you understand

(no, really)

ollie.

Re: BANG!: S'only a Rock'n'Roll Rag. Out Now.

As this page still comes up if you search for Taylor's name on Google, could I just point out that the allegations repeated by ollie have no truth in them, and are legally actionable? Perhaps he'd like to withdraw them, or perhaps the site administrators could delete them?




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