...just the acquisition of music as a materialistic pursuit.
True or False?
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scenes are pretty rubbish.
Its a
god damn arms race.
*arse face
The Northern Soul scene of 60s-80s was arguably characterised entirely
by the acquisition of music as material objects - specificially the fetishisation of rare 7"s, almost regardless of quality.
Regardless of quality?...
there's no such thing as a bad northern sould record. Just songs that sound like others but aren't quite as good.
there was a strong competitive element to 45 collecting that did remove it from quality control
Prices would shoot up for what were pleasant but basically unremarkable records, just because one of the big DJs had found it somewhere really obscure and no-one had heard of it. It's the same mentality that made them put removable white labels on the discs whilst they were playing them.
Don't get me wrong, I adore Northern Soul, but some of the fetish element was a bit over the top.
yep yep
I agree.
This happens in other kinda retrospective scenes too. I know of some old skool dance heads that sell old italo disco 12"s for big $£$£$£$£$££!!!!!!
like that steve brookstein
thing?
That record was great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIlEiPU5PWQ
The link's also got the heartwarming story of how an x-factor (pop idol?) winner actually made supposedly one of the rarest northern soul records and duped the whole northen soul community into thinking it came out of 60s new jersey and was worth a grand a 7".
false`
basically
FALSE
"there are no artforms now just capitalism" LOLLOLOL
THROW YR STEREO IN THE LAKE
* Pull stereos out of the lake
what about the new
pop-core scene fronted by the newly invented Automatic?
MATHCORE BITCH.
what does math mean in a musical context
I hear it used alot but it sounds silly to me, can anyone explain for me?
Sorry, I can't hear you over all the MATHCORE BITCH.
but what is math
on a serious note?
shouldn't it be maths
if you are anglo
it doesn't have to be maths if used as 'mathrock' etc
because it becomes a different proper noun . If the original scene had been British and called 'mathsrock', then the Americans should have followed suit. I think.
I'm turned off it by the implications
that it provides a technically minded antidote for other music which must be lacking in it's scientific understanding of choones. It may have nothing to do with what I just said because I have never heard any (or never heard any being called any).
I don't really like math, so wouldn't take you on about any of that
but it's ok for a Brit to call it math, is all.
but what is it!!
oh dear lord it doesn't even exist does it?
wasn't there a beginners' guide written by Mike Diver on here a while ago?
I'm sure that'll solve your Math-based problems.
I have no idea honestly.
I just like the music.
Surely the correct response here should be
MATHCORE BITCH.
well you know how 'normal' heavy records go
THUMP - THUMP - THUMP - THUMP
mathy ones go
A-THUMP - A-THUMP - THUMPUMPUMMPUMP *micro-pause* - A THUMP A THUMP THUMUMPUMPUMP THUMP
so kind glitchy?
I couldn't have asked for a better explanation. Thanks Mr!
False
there are scenes goin down but they are pretty underground or just kinda diffrent due to the internet and all that.
Dance music has that comunity feel alot of the time especialy dubstep and lil sub genres.
surely
music is about as de-materialised as it's been since the early days of the music industry..?
and as regards 'scenes', are you talking about media-created labels or groups of people? i doubt either are going away any time soon, whatever you think of them (trendwagon, local niche or mythical underground).
not in britain no
the only ones even close are Glasgow and Brighton.
Go to New York, LA, Montreal or Toronto if you want results.
of course there is in Britain
heck my lil town has a group of about 3 or 4 producers making mad cut up break core and drum n bass stuff. Thats almost a scene hehe
London has the Grime scene and Dubstep scene. Clubs like FWD>>> Fabric all get a comunitie goin.
there will be loadsa folk ones about no doubt.
Fire colective are a jazz colective that swap members in loadsa bands like Acoustic Ladyland, Polar Bear......
ok fair enough
I was refering to guitar based music
sure
that seems more fragmented. I guess its cos its so huge and divers now adays. There will no doubt be lil ones in areas.
I would freakin love a a Smell scene like in LA over here that would be ace.
well like I say
glasgow and brighton seem to be producing and encouraging actual talent.
the problem is though is that british people are so blaze by and wide they wouldn't care if such a scene existend and/or people would find out and try and exploit it. It's been happening since the 70's.
true dude ever so true
It's not surprising
that all the exciting stuff is based around electronics these days.
Compare what you can do with a guitar to what is possible with a computer.
yeah man
electronic tom foolery rules!
its kinda been that way since the 80s mind hehe
guitars got some catchin up to do like ;)
some bands are scenes
like Liars
No Age
Deerhunter
don't...
most scenes die the moment someone identifies them as 'a scene'?
Smell scene?
please enlighten me!
...
http://www.myspace.com/thesmell
http://www.postpresentmedium.com/
http://www.thesmell.org/index1.html
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=40272021&blogID=305846005
+
http://www.drownedinsound.com/release/view/11530
http://www.drownedinsound.com/release/view/13514
http://drownedinsound.com/articles/2630521
http://drownedinsound.com/release/view/13262
http://drownedinsound.com/release/view/10281
http://discover.drownedinsound.com/articles/2362554
what he said
heheh
there is also a really good one in Denver that I keep tryin to mention, but it often falls on dead ears.
Linkage>>>>>>>>>>>>v
http://thesonicminefeild.blogspot.com/2008/06/rhinoceropolis.html
MAKE YOUR OWN
:-)
I'm tryin
sort of...
there are bazillions
of musical scenes, just they're all too small to be noticed by the mainstream media - except emo, which is just pop wearing a different fashion.
Rediculously multi-faceted choice due to cheap production + abundance of information and the globalised localities of the internet = innumerate tiny, non-geographical, niche scenes.
I'll try and stop being a smart arse now.
2009
Will probs be a big year for the Freestyle Dubstep Math-Reggae scene.
Look out for that one.