This is mental. We do our shopping there every week. I was with my friend who is a teacher, We got a few bottles of Bulmers and a bag of ice. She had ID but myself and my housemate did not.
"Sorry we cant let her buy them for you as we know shes buying them for you now."
Then I decided I still wanted the bag of ice because we could just go to the off licence. She refused to serve me the bag of ice. Eventually she asked her superior if she could sell me it. The superior said yes. I said can you give me it then please? "Fine." She threw it into my hands with such force that the bag split in a corner.
"There's no need for that. For fucks sake.."
DONT USE THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE IN HERE
"SHe just slammed this bag of ice into me. I'm still a customer"
NO SHES JUST DOING HER JOB
I'm going in to make a complaint at the weekend. I dont care so much about the Clallenge 25 thing, its a policy, obviously in place to stop older looking people buying drink for younger looking people. Fair enough. But the legal age to buy alcohol is still 18. Use some discretion here. We all look over 21. We're all 26 for gods sake. Anyway, this 19 year old lass doesnt know how to use the policy yet
WHat i'm going to complain about is the attitude change. Ok. You wont let us buy the alcohol, I'm ok with that, its a bit ridiculous and we'll have a laugh about it on the way back to the car... We're still customers, dont start treating us like shit
while i fully understand the reasons behind it, i think common sense needs to be applied at times. Why should i have to prove i am 7 years older than the legal age to do something? I am sick and tired of this countries nanny state "we know best" even if an 18 year old did go and buy loads of alcohol to get shit faced wherever that is their choice. Maybe looking at the reasons young people feel the need to go out and "escape" so much would be better than offending (yes i do get offended) a shit load of the population. Sorry if this sounds, well whatever it sounds like but being 26 and just the other day being refused because i look under 25 and not having my driver license ( i dont drive) or passport (wasn't planning on leaving the country)Is a fucking disgrace. Added to thaty my mate got refused because he looked under 30 in one shop. The legal age to buy alcohol in this country is 18, end of. whether i look 25, 35 or 75 is irelivant imo.
CIGARETTES! I know you have to 18 now for them as well, but still. He asked how old I was, I said IM TWENTY FIVE!
he tilted his head to the side to look at each of my cheeks (which are decidedly unshaven at present) and said "OK go on then", like he was doin me a favour! The cashier next to him was pissing himself.
"we know your game son, substituting tobacco for filter tips. That old chestnut. roll up five or six filters in a rizla and bingo, you've got yourself a tasty fag hit without ever having to produce the necessary ID. Well, not on my watch sonny, go on, skidaddle."
i hate checkout people. worst of the cunting worst. like they even know what 18 looks like from behind their filthy pimply grease soaked face, cunt off back to middle school
You have to be over 21 to buy alcohol after 3pm on a friday or saturday now. The bus company is making a fortune out of people going to offies in neighbouring towns. And there are still hundreds of drunk toddlers lingering around the seafront on weekends. SORT IT OUT.
into a club last night and didn't have any (driving examiner took my provisional and hasn't sent my full licence yet) and I explained this to them and they let me in. That made me feel like a proper man.
at a club with a history of terrible bouncers.. obviously i was lucky enough to hit on one who'd had some terrible driving lesson experience under his belt..
and the same girl that serves me EVERY time and ID's me EVERY time ID'd me again. she always apologises sheepishly, but it's like she must recognise me! she knows my friend by name, and i go in a shit load with him, and she still does it. really annoying.
and if there are other workers nearby, or monitoring CCTV she could get in trouble for not IDing. I've been told off for that even when I've IDd someone before.
If all the positive forces of the universe combine in a highly unlikely way and Labour somehow get in again, you can have ID cards and stop moaning about something completely pointless.
It's not fair for a shop worker to have to risk their job on deciding how old somebody looks. Everyone knows supermarkets are strict with ID, and it's just common sense to know that if you're going to one, are in your 20s, and want to buy alcohol, you're going to need to have ID.
Actually, I find your behaviour in this fairly disgusting. So much so that I'm not even going to say that the till worker who threw a bag of ice at you was out of order - if this scenario was anything to go by, you pretty much deserved it.
So don't laugh in the face of people who are doing the job that they're getting paid (basically nothing) to do. Okay, just get over yourself. It's not easy to judge someone's age at all. And it's not worth becoming unemployed to just think "yeah, okay, they're probably old enough". If you have an issue with the store policy, then go write a letter to head office. But don't be a complete ^%&$ to people who are doing exactly what they're supposed to be doing.
just bring some fucking ID, don't get so arsey. people used to get like this with me when i was selling 18 dvds when i was working in MVC about four years ago. it's my job to ask you, and if you're going to get arsey about it then i will also get arsey about it and yes, it's a bit of a power trip but when you're a 16 year old bored girl there's not really a lot else you can do to make you feel big and clever.
it really comes down to a case of Human empathy vs The Law.
If you are a good person you can assess the people that come in and decide if it's responsible of you to sell them, in both the legal sense and moral sense of "responsible". If you're a bad person you will ID everybody, holding up queues and generally being a bit of a jobsworth cunt. Naturally, I am the former.
Having worked in a supermarket, I never IDed anyone once, mostly because I was never approached by a group of 14 year old kids in trackies or thugs. You can refuse anyone you like, for any reason. And no, you wouldn't lose your job unless you did it repeatedly, and in my case I was supposed to call over the manager as I was under 18. This is verging on impossible when it's a busy supermarket.
Ok I understand what you are saying that people won't want to risk their job over not IDing someone, if it's their job to do it then they do it, however what on earth do you mean by "You pretty much deserved it" that till worker was completely out of order, you should never ever treat a customer like that and it's clear that she was being stupid, she has the right to refuse to sell the alcohol if there was no ID shown, however she has no right to 1. not sell the ice (she could only do this if the customer was particularly rude, offensive or violent, and they only laughed) and 2. throw it at the customer.
That's shocking behaviour and she shouldn't be working a job like that if he believes he can treat people like that.
I found you could get joy if you were friendly and helpful. The ones who sat there with their mouths open and murmured at the customers when they needed something were consistently miserable, though.
Of course I don't think it's acceptable. But I also think that 'laughing in the face' of till workers is equally unacceptable. Basically, he should probably think about the effect of his actions on others before complaining about people treating him bad. Unnacaptable on her part, but I'm not in any way sympathetic with him. And if his behaviour towards her was anything like his behaviour towards the till worker in the op, then I'm even less so.
not that i've actually had to show them any ID but still.
a slightly embarassed lady in Argos double-checking i was over 18 when i was buying... cutlery.
buying gin & tonic (IN A CAN. AMAZING INVENTION) in tesco, the guy at the counter turning to his female colleague goin "I NEED HELP HERE", her then looking me up and down before asking "you ARE over 18, aren't you?" I am 30. "oh, that's a compliment then!"
yes it is, thnx.
as long as people don't get pissy about it then i don't have a problem.
IDing people who look under 25....why? if they are 25, they've been able to buy alcohol legally for 7 years. Is it that likely that there are under 18 year olds out there looking like they're in their mid-20's? I think not. It's just a hassle for people who shouldn't get hassled.
i often get mistaken for being a fair amount older than i am and i know people who look older than me that are younger than me. i got served for alcohol once when i was 13- challenge 25 makes sense. and it really isn't that inconvenient to bring ID with you, just get a fucking driving license and put it in your wallet.
people get arsey at them for iding them when they're 25. i really don't see why it's such an inconvenience though, if you're aware of this problem then just bring some id.
looking like older teenagers, so if you looked 18 when you were 13/the shopkeeper just didn't care, then that's fair enough. However, a seven year gap between 18 and 25? That just sounds ridiculous to me. I've never met a teenager who looked like they were in their 20's.
"Outrage as young person IDd for alcohol"
whatever stops irresponsible people buying alcohol's good, imo
I'm not saying you, but a lot of young people.
It's think 21 in Tesco.
The training video was hilarious.
We got Challenge 25 again in ASDA last night
This is mental. We do our shopping there every week. I was with my friend who is a teacher, We got a few bottles of Bulmers and a bag of ice. She had ID but myself and my housemate did not.
"Sorry we cant let her buy them for you as we know shes buying them for you now."
Then I decided I still wanted the bag of ice because we could just go to the off licence. She refused to serve me the bag of ice. Eventually she asked her superior if she could sell me it. The superior said yes. I said can you give me it then please? "Fine." She threw it into my hands with such force that the bag split in a corner.
"There's no need for that. For fucks sake.."
DONT USE THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE IN HERE
"SHe just slammed this bag of ice into me. I'm still a customer"
NO SHES JUST DOING HER JOB
I'm going in to make a complaint at the weekend. I dont care so much about the Clallenge 25 thing, its a policy, obviously in place to stop older looking people buying drink for younger looking people. Fair enough. But the legal age to buy alcohol is still 18. Use some discretion here. We all look over 21. We're all 26 for gods sake. Anyway, this 19 year old lass doesnt know how to use the policy yet
WHat i'm going to complain about is the attitude change. Ok. You wont let us buy the alcohol, I'm ok with that, its a bit ridiculous and we'll have a laugh about it on the way back to the car... We're still customers, dont start treating us like shit
are you sure you're not actually 60?
That would be amazing
I bet that lass has done it to 60 year old
I hate it,
while i fully understand the reasons behind it, i think common sense needs to be applied at times. Why should i have to prove i am 7 years older than the legal age to do something? I am sick and tired of this countries nanny state "we know best" even if an 18 year old did go and buy loads of alcohol to get shit faced wherever that is their choice. Maybe looking at the reasons young people feel the need to go out and "escape" so much would be better than offending (yes i do get offended) a shit load of the population. Sorry if this sounds, well whatever it sounds like but being 26 and just the other day being refused because i look under 25 and not having my driver license ( i dont drive) or passport (wasn't planning on leaving the country)Is a fucking disgrace. Added to thaty my mate got refused because he looked under 30 in one shop. The legal age to buy alcohol in this country is 18, end of. whether i look 25, 35 or 75 is irelivant imo.
z'if she wasnt gonan give you ice!!!
what a wanker! Whats wrong with ice! you should have grabbed her face and mercilessly pummeled it into oblivion
that's outrageous
with that attitude she deserves a serious warning on the way to losing her job if she continues to act like that.
he***
she*
:| I'm too easily confused by two stories.
i was IDd for cigarettes a few days ago!
CIGARETTES! I know you have to 18 now for them as well, but still. He asked how old I was, I said IM TWENTY FIVE!
he tilted his head to the side to look at each of my cheeks (which are decidedly unshaven at present) and said "OK go on then", like he was doin me a favour! The cashier next to him was pissing himself.
THATS NOTHING
My friend who is a 27 year old Egyptian got IDd for FILTER TIPS in the SPAR.
they wouldnt give him them and he had to go elsewhere!
the girl serving was about 10
thats brilliant
"we know your game son, substituting tobacco for filter tips. That old chestnut. roll up five or six filters in a rizla and bingo, you've got yourself a tasty fag hit without ever having to produce the necessary ID. Well, not on my watch sonny, go on, skidaddle."
That's literally what she said
i think she was backward
ugh
i hate checkout people. worst of the cunting worst. like they even know what 18 looks like from behind their filthy pimply grease soaked face, cunt off back to middle school
Bravo
well put
This thread really shows people
to be pathetic, doesn't it?
I'm actually so mad right now.....
i completely agree
just show your fucking ID, so they're doing their jobs, get over it, it's a law.
not when people are rude
or ridiculous about it.
I got ID'd in ASDA
when I was 30. She refused to serve me saying that I needed ID and that I should be flattered! She was right snotty with me.
i hate that "you should be flattered" shit!
fuck you! i'm not flattered! i'm highly embarrassed and inconvenienced!
I got IDed
today in Spar and I haven't haved for well over a week.
haved = shaved
btw yeah? yeah...
Challenge 25?
What a massive crock of shit. I've got half a mind to start a chain of shops now that openly doesn't ID you if you look vaguely over 18.
have fun paying the fines.
My town has cracked down on binge drinking
You have to be over 21 to buy alcohol after 3pm on a friday or saturday now. The bus company is making a fortune out of people going to offies in neighbouring towns. And there are still hundreds of drunk toddlers lingering around the seafront on weekends. SORT IT OUT.
surely people will just buy alcohol in the week and keep it for the weekend?
i can't imagine that working really.
the Tesco I was in in Birmingham the other day
was an under 30 challenge zone. My friend showed his bald patch to prove his age and they backed down.
UNDER 30
challenge zone?
what the hell.
I got asked for ID to get
into a club last night and didn't have any (driving examiner took my provisional and hasn't sent my full licence yet) and I explained this to them and they let me in. That made me feel like a proper man.
i did this too
at a club with a history of terrible bouncers.. obviously i was lucky enough to hit on one who'd had some terrible driving lesson experience under his belt..
i went into the shop 2 doors down from my best friends last night
for 8 beers
and the same girl that serves me EVERY time and ID's me EVERY time ID'd me again. she always apologises sheepishly, but it's like she must recognise me! she knows my friend by name, and i go in a shit load with him, and she still does it. really annoying.
Sure, but if she's not 100% sure...
and if there are other workers nearby, or monitoring CCTV she could get in trouble for not IDing. I've been told off for that even when I've IDd someone before.
Challenge 25?
Fucks sake, if they're going to start doing that then they just up the drinking age.
This time next year they'll probably be refusing to sell us alcohol if we look under 35, don't have a beard and have driven to the shop to buy it.
How hard is it to carry some ID around with you?
If all the positive forces of the universe combine in a highly unlikely way and Labour somehow get in again, you can have ID cards and stop moaning about something completely pointless.
why is it such an inconvenience to just bring ID/
I only have one form of ID
my passport, and I wouldn't want to carry it around with me incase I lost it, I'd be a little screwed if I did.
Then again, I rarely do or buy anything that would require ID.
I hate people's attitudes to this
It's not fair for a shop worker to have to risk their job on deciding how old somebody looks. Everyone knows supermarkets are strict with ID, and it's just common sense to know that if you're going to one, are in your 20s, and want to buy alcohol, you're going to need to have ID.
Actually, I find your behaviour in this fairly disgusting. So much so that I'm not even going to say that the till worker who threw a bag of ice at you was out of order - if this scenario was anything to go by, you pretty much deserved it.
So don't laugh in the face of people who are doing the job that they're getting paid (basically nothing) to do. Okay, just get over yourself. It's not easy to judge someone's age at all. And it's not worth becoming unemployed to just think "yeah, okay, they're probably old enough". If you have an issue with the store policy, then go write a letter to head office. But don't be a complete ^%&$ to people who are doing exactly what they're supposed to be doing.
I think it's the policy,
not the people that they're upset about
exactly
just bring some fucking ID, don't get so arsey. people used to get like this with me when i was selling 18 dvds when i was working in MVC about four years ago. it's my job to ask you, and if you're going to get arsey about it then i will also get arsey about it and yes, it's a bit of a power trip but when you're a 16 year old bored girl there's not really a lot else you can do to make you feel big and clever.
Yes there is, you idiot!
You completely wasted your opportunity to make middle-aged men feel uncomfortable.
Yeah, you're right, but
it really comes down to a case of Human empathy vs The Law.
If you are a good person you can assess the people that come in and decide if it's responsible of you to sell them, in both the legal sense and moral sense of "responsible". If you're a bad person you will ID everybody, holding up queues and generally being a bit of a jobsworth cunt. Naturally, I am the former.
Having worked in a supermarket, I never IDed anyone once, mostly because I was never approached by a group of 14 year old kids in trackies or thugs. You can refuse anyone you like, for any reason. And no, you wouldn't lose your job unless you did it repeatedly, and in my case I was supposed to call over the manager as I was under 18. This is verging on impossible when it's a busy supermarket.
You'd lose your job
if it was a trading standards test. Someone was fired for that reason where I worked, and another person at one of the other stores.
We had to call a supervisor
every single time. Saturday afternoons had queues that basically filled the shop as a result.
uh what?
Ok I understand what you are saying that people won't want to risk their job over not IDing someone, if it's their job to do it then they do it, however what on earth do you mean by "You pretty much deserved it" that till worker was completely out of order, you should never ever treat a customer like that and it's clear that she was being stupid, she has the right to refuse to sell the alcohol if there was no ID shown, however she has no right to 1. not sell the ice (she could only do this if the customer was particularly rude, offensive or violent, and they only laughed) and 2. throw it at the customer.
That's shocking behaviour and she shouldn't be working a job like that if he believes he can treat people like that.
he*
I don't know why I keep thinking the till worker was female.
she was female
i agree, she was very out of order and was probably just on a power trip. till workers can't get much joy.
In my time on the tills,.
I found you could get joy if you were friendly and helpful. The ones who sat there with their mouths open and murmured at the customers when they needed something were consistently miserable, though.
"I laugh in his face" ?
I work on a till a lot, the most joy I get is from having friendly conversation with customers, saying this though, customers are bastards.*
*some customers.
oh wait
I'm just confusing the 2 different stories now, one's male and the other is female.
fucking hell :D
I was venting
Of course I don't think it's acceptable. But I also think that 'laughing in the face' of till workers is equally unacceptable. Basically, he should probably think about the effect of his actions on others before complaining about people treating him bad. Unnacaptable on her part, but I'm not in any way sympathetic with him. And if his behaviour towards her was anything like his behaviour towards the till worker in the op, then I'm even less so.
I doubt he laughed at the second cashier
I think she was just touchy.
And I'm sure it was more shocked "I'm not under 18!" laughter than "mwahaha you're a fucking fool" laughter.
I think when someone says "laughed in their face"
It's sounds more like the latter, and pretty aggressive. "I laughed" would have been different.
hm
reading back at the original post, I just said something really stupid so just ignore that ^
I misunderstood the "you fucking fool" comment in the original post, thinking they were calling themself a fucking fool for laughing.
/idiot.
i'm a girl
Well, naturally that changes everything
Yep. I'm even less likely to fuck you
my favourite ID experiences in the last month
not that i've actually had to show them any ID but still.
a slightly embarassed lady in Argos double-checking i was over 18 when i was buying... cutlery.
buying gin & tonic (IN A CAN. AMAZING INVENTION) in tesco, the guy at the counter turning to his female colleague goin "I NEED HELP HERE", her then looking me up and down before asking "you ARE over 18, aren't you?" I am 30. "oh, that's a compliment then!"
yes it is, thnx.
as long as people don't get pissy about it then i don't have a problem.
what
gin and tonic in a can?
yeah, they're amazing.
also: surprisingly strong.
they sound awesome
https://www.drinksdirect.co.uk/acatalog/Greenall_Gin_Tonic_Can.html
im rly bored walkingwithwolves what should i do
watch american history x?
i'm sleepy. gonna have a nap.
pre-mixed!
there was also pimms and something in a can.
pimms and orange
(i think)
Challenge 25?
That'll explain why the bouncer at Wetherspoons in Nottingham wanted proof.
I cannot take any joy: I am 25.
I don't get this at all!
IDing people who look under 25....why? if they are 25, they've been able to buy alcohol legally for 7 years. Is it that likely that there are under 18 year olds out there looking like they're in their mid-20's? I think not. It's just a hassle for people who shouldn't get hassled.
yes
i often get mistaken for being a fair amount older than i am and i know people who look older than me that are younger than me. i got served for alcohol once when i was 13- challenge 25 makes sense. and it really isn't that inconvenient to bring ID with you, just get a fucking driving license and put it in your wallet.
but at 13 you were 5 years younger than 18, not 7 years older.
I don't know if I remember any of my friends being around 18 and looking 25.
You look 22 at the very most, hardly a 7 year error.
i think it's just a way for people to cover their back if
people get arsey at them for iding them when they're 25. i really don't see why it's such an inconvenience though, if you're aware of this problem then just bring some id.
Fair, I carry my ID anyway
but I have spent the last 4 years trying to grow impressive facial hair to look like a "real" man. Being ID'd with a beard is quite disheartening.
yeah. i always carry id with me.
What about just after you've passed your driving test?
What then? All these rules are all well and good, but what about me?
i carry my passport actually.
i lost my provisional drivers license!
I used to use an out-of-date one
(though you couldn't tell it was me it was so old). I wouldn't want to take an actual valid passport out on a night, especially if alcohol's involved.
i carry a valid passport around
all the time, alcohol or no alcohol and have done for a couple of years. i'm not afraid of losing it, it's in my pocket all the time.
you get young teenagers
looking like older teenagers, so if you looked 18 when you were 13/the shopkeeper just didn't care, then that's fair enough. However, a seven year gap between 18 and 25? That just sounds ridiculous to me. I've never met a teenager who looked like they were in their 20's.
You've never met a 19-year-old
who could pass for 20?
ok well I should have said "mid 20's"
otherwise people will continue to pick holes in my argument, so shush.
I wasn't really picking holes
I was making a funny joke.