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by whiterussian

i'm currently cleaning out the fridge. there's lots of old milk and stuff.

what's the most disgusting thing you've ever found in the back of your fridge or cupboard or lying around your kitchen?

whiterussian | 07 Jul '08, 19:21 | Send note | Report this | Reply

A packet of Hula Hoops.

So 1997.


Some strawberry jam

That may have been placed there by King Arthur himself. Stupidly, STUPIDLY, I opened and sniffed. My right nostril has never been the same, if i try and breath out through my nose, it only comes out the left. :'(


i have never found one of those lying around in my kitchen

there was one attached to a person walking around in my kitchen once though.


I find them all the time

Keep forgetting to throw them out


cucumbers get so very gross

all that brown gooey stuff :(


especially when they merge with lettuce

and whatever the hell else had been in there


Dans fish!!!!

it stunk! DAN_THW! Why didnt u eat it or take it home you bastard!


This is the worst thread ever?

How can you possibly leave anything in after it's use-by. Not only might you use it by accident, but it's going to pollute all your other food, so you'd have to throw everything out and spend a lot of time washing and disinfecting it. Aside from being ridiculously dangerous, it's a complete waste...


*by "it" I mean the fridge

Or freezer, or cupboard or whatever place the offending items were in.


yeah

the only thing i use after its useby date is bread because i freeze it to keep it fresh


or you might say to your flatmates

"guys, feel free to eat all the veg in my vegetables box, i don't fancy dealing with them when i get back in 4 weeks time", and they say "k" and then you come back 4 weeks later and nearly vomit with the smell


How can you possibly forget about something so simple?

And so important? That makes no sense at all. It's a pretty simple and basic thing to keep track of.


These are the kind of people

who "forget" to look at a road before crossing, or get their water from the toilet because it's "not as important"....?

It's a simple and important health issue. I'm not sure why people try to deny and avoid it so much, it's completely bizarre.


in my experience that's simply not the case

people who forget about food generally do look at a road before crossing, and they don't get their water from the toilet. but hey, maybe you've got experience to the contrary


Well then if they can apply basic logic

in most health/safety situations, it's very strange for them not to apply the same logic for a situation just as crucial.


but my point is

that it's easy to get rid of food that's gone off. in fact, it's possibly easier than taking time out your day to cook, well, to cook whatever to freeze it to use at a later date, or whatever.

i think you're suggesting everyone should have the same hygeine standards as you, and while maybe that's a fair point (well, okay, it probably is), people don't and generally they pay the price with ill-health when it all goes wrong and that's human life nowadays


Freezing it to use later is just as bad

Potentially worse.

And just buy things when you need them. If you look at what you have, account for it, and cook accordingly. It's not difficult - saves money and health. And if there's anything left at the end for whatever reason, it;s not going to be the end of the world to throw it out on the date (or before if you know you won't be using it).


we know your opinions on freezing stuff

you're going in circles here


Where as

We find out new and exciting things about you every day....


:D


indeed you do

for example, did you know that my favourite book is named after an austronaut? no, you didn't. there, that's a new and exciting thing concerning me. it's not that difficult.


no, i understand what you're saying

(except with the freezing thing, but we're not talking about that), i just think that you're overstating the dangers. sure the dangers COULD be there, but much much much much much more often they're not there until you can tell by examining the food they're there.

i'd also say this: in the days before use-by dates, how did humans tell what food to eat and what not to eat?


Most of the dangers in food are invisible

That's almost certainly fact. Going by visuals/smell is pretty much insane.

They didn't. And had much poorer health and died early....


exactly!

and now we've got very good health and are living too long for global sustainability!

all of which means bad food might not be such a problem in today's world?


Yes it is

Because it makes people sick, people of any age. If you want to do population control, it'd be better to stop funding research into medical conditions that effect the elderly.


that wasn't my point

i was saying that because we're living healthier lives - sure we get sick sometimes but everything does

i understand all your theories but they're just that: theories. all your ideas in this thread are horribly worst-case-scenario and it just doesn't work that way with people in general. in practice, it just doesn't happen like that. that's all i can say


You don't know that at all

Just because there's nothing physically obvious with the problem. It probably is happening to the bodies of people who do this regularly, but it won't ever be diagnosed as so.


how do you know?

scientific evidence/figures pls


I don't

Nobody would do research into it, as it would be considered pointless, and would be hard to identify as it being the same cause - but it's blatantly logical, keep eating posion it's going to build up harmfully attacking your body.


i think research into it

really would NOT be considered pointless, i would be very surprised if there wasn't already research into it.

one distinction i think you're not making here is the difference between poison and harmful bacteria. poison would be something like arsenic, which is i think, not what you're referring to.

i'm not an expert on bacteria and human biology but my dad is and i'm trying to remember his words where he was telling me about the human body fighting off infections and coming through completely unscathed. it would take a hell of a lot of repeated cases of food poisoning - i.e. more than anyone's realistically going to get - for it to finally undermine your immune system in this way.

unless you get an uber bad one from meat or something, and with respect to this thread, i don't think it's talking about people eating meat foolishly. meat is exactly the sort of thing people take the necessary caution over


Poisons, toxins whatever they are

they still 'poison' the body in the way most people would use the term.

And no, I don't believe that at all. There's no logic in it. Eat dangerous things, it'll hurt you. You don't need any research or evidence, it's bloody obvious.

Things like meat and dairy likely will be the worst cases, for sure - but everything has the ability to be damaging and dangerous.


ok, don't believe it

this argument's pointless because i suspect even if i dug some scientific figures out to prove, well, anything, it wouldn't change your mind.


Feel free to do so

I haven't seena nyone produce them in similar arguments before, so I'm guessing people can't find any accurate looking ones.


sigh

you know what the worst thing is? i've just spent 45 minutes plus in this discussion for absolutely no point

fuck it, i'm off to eat some gone off eggs


raw.


I just said

find me some seemingly accurate evidence and if there's anything to change my opinion, then fine. There hasn't been so far, but if you can do so please go ahead. I mean that genuinely.


and i said

i'm off to eat some out of date raw eggs

at the end of the day i don't care enough to go trawling through medical journals or what have you. you can say "ok i win argument i am right" but really frustrating the other person to the point where they want to bash their head against a wall until unconscious isn't really a moral victory. but whatever. this is the last time i look at this thread, after that NEVER AGAIN EVER


Well duh

If you're planning on eating out of date raw eggs, I can't imagine you'll be looking at this thread any time soon either....


:O

^my face right now


Hello.

Sorry to wade in. I'm a qualified nurse, and I can assure you that eating food that is a little bit gone off, example bread, is NOT going to harm the body in anyway. In fact, some of the mould on bread etc, spurs the natural bacteria in the human gut into life, whereas it would normally remain dormant. Essentially, this is what anti-biotic drugs do.

Now, I'm not going to advocate eating rotten food, but the seemingly life threatening ideas about it you have are way way off the mark.

kthnxby


No offence

But I know "qualified nurses" and I wouldn't want many of them to be giving me any health tips. At all.


LOL.

what a COCK.


No offence

taken.

Twat.


Sighhh

I genuinely meant no offence. All I'm saying is that being a nurse doesn't make you the authority on such a subject. At all. The same would g9o for most doctors. In any way more than I am. A food safety expert is just about the only person.


Nothing EVER goes off on the use by

and often its best before, just means it wont taste as good! Stop being so paranoiiiiiiid 'dangerous' PISH POSH (well yea obvs after a while but a day or 2 wont hurt


That's the stupidest statement ever

Of course it goes off on it's use-by. It's the point where it's dangerous to eat it.


slightly untrue

generally the use-by is a slightly before it starts to become slightly dangerous to eat. it's generally just to give food companies a little extra leeway/prevent them getting sued

roughly speaking, anyway


"roughly speaking"

Maybe it will be okay one day after - but they obviously don't think so, and anyone who's willing to take that risk deserves to get very, very sick.


true but

it's generally safer than i think you think it is, but as long as you eat all your food in time and don't waste stuff, it's not really a problem for you/not your battle to fight.

leave that for gordon brown


i completely agree

discussion over?

great!


shut UP helene

i'm trying to have a sensible, level-headed discussion with pocketmouse here


Its fact

in fact it says BEST BEOFRE 99% of the time not Use by... some products can last weeks after Best Before especially if they dont contain meat and dairy and are in a sealed enviroment.

Tempurature effects such things as well, so a colder winter would usualy mean food will last longer.

Its not a stupid statement it's fact but I know your too stubbourn to even see this as true so I shant bother.


And how would things work if you apply

that kind of things to different situations. It's a completely unnescessary, stupid risk. If something has a date telling you when to use it, that's when you should use it. "Oh it'll probably be okay, just been a week and the weather's been pretty cold, what's the worst that could happen - just get a bit sick or something".... "Oh it'll probably be okay, the car's not going that fast, it'd probably stop anyhow, what's the worst that could happen - just break an arm or something"....


but those are different levels of risk

sure, it's only recieved wisdom, but generally a yoghurt that's two or three days out of date is less likely to kill you than, say, a car doing 90


Not really

Food poising is pretty serious - especially if you're poisoning your body with infested food on a regular basis - you'll end up in terrible health and dead at 50 probably.


You just say that as it's not so immediate

and externally obvious. In the big scheme a broken leg isn't -that- bad. Continually giving your body a build-up of poison on the other hand, is going to be damaging on a long term scale far more severely.


Food Poising

SERIOUS BUSINESS!


we are not

talking about EATING INFESTED FOOD HERE THOUGH, are we? I'm certainly not