what do you have to do to decide?
i've been stuck in a boring job for AGES while writing short stories/one long inane film script and occasionally getting paid and published for writing about a subject i can't write about. i hate journalism. i plan to do an MA in 3 years time after my sociology degree ends, but I'm worried about the statistical aspect of it, so my dreams of sociological research may come undone. plus i'll be in my early 30s before i can start searching for jobs in this area. i can write essays, but have no fully formed political stance, so am not that convincing possibly. it all seems hopeless.
has anyone felt stuck and then come out of that situation?

Interesting
I always thought most people have that one 'passion' they'd love to do, and know they probably could do - but always put it off.
yeaaah
I think most people do, but there's a point at which it becomes a pretence, and then it becomes part of your personality to 'want' to do it (if you haven't done it already).
Well, what interests you?
And what MA are you considering?
1. writing a novella
but I don't feel I have anything to write about
2. Sociology. I dropped out of an Eng.Lit degree about seven years ago, and decided about two years ago, I should have studied sociology all along. So I'm currently doing sociology degree while I'm working (which is why I have to wait three years as it's part-time)
http://www.lse.ac.uk/resources/graduateProspectus2008/taughtProgrammes/MScSociology.htm
http://www.lse.ac.uk/resources/graduateProspectus2008/taughtProgrammes/MScRaceEthnicityAndPostColonialStudies.htm
http://www.gla.ac.uk/departments/sociology/postgraduatestudymscprogrammes/mscinsociology/#d.en.26005
(because I'd like to move to Scotland for a bit, partly)
just write me a short film script instead.
go on!
you can have my nymphomaniac marketeer
drugs members of an involuntary celibacy group and falls in love with them, but is unable to reveal her true identity for fear of being ostracised by her new friends idea.
i threw the script, but i still have a lot of affection for it <3.
aw you shouldn't have thrown it out!
maybe it just need some rewrites..
erm, it was kind of a joke
but yeah, if you wanna make a film about a nympho marketing lady, i'll write it!!!
have you found any good scripts yet?
hope you're feeling better x
Hey! :)
I worked a job I didn't really like with no prospects for nine and a half years.. mainly because I just didn't know what else I wanted to do.
I eventually decided to leave and I started at entry-level for the company I still work for now. I've progressed since then into a position that I actually enjoy in an area that genuinely interests me.
^and I'm sure that's a great help! :)
I guess what I mean is you could consider a small backwards step in order to change direction, it'll be worth it if you're really feeling stuck!
yeah, I guess
:)
I was thinking of going in to arts admin, but I hate that too. I got to know lots of people involved in the literature 'scene' (lol) in London but I hate them all. But it's a good idea, you're right.
good vibes!
thanks for the advice, though. i will think about it :)
sad_punk where do you work in Nottingham?
at the major credit card company
next to the train station
Is it true you have your own spar?
I want to work there for this reason.
We have a little corner shop inside
but it's not a spar.
We also have:
Two starbucks
Two restaurants
Ten overnight rooms
A relaxation room
and two games rooms.
It's a great building to work in, but I'm not sure how much longer that will be the case. Losing half the workforce will surely mean we won't need all this space!
I used to work there
I can imagine it being really spooky with basically nobody in there now...
It was an amazing place ot work though- you basically get free stuff all day everyday.
We don't get as much free stuff now! :(
They used to pretty much force feed us sweets
Team meetings= lots of sweets and a quiz.
good god
my office is in amazement at your list.
:D
There's also a 42" TV showing the tennis right in front of me!
oh my good fricking god
that is it. my cv is being sent there. Do you have a reception? I need a receptionist job!
That's not such a good idea.
We're in the process of making 750 people redundant!
We do have a reception, yes.
i suppose i finally know what i want to do
but i can't make a living from it :(
what do you want to do?
Morrissey's steak technician
running 'my' label
putting on live music events
thing is that i pretty much only want to do it on my own terms or just not at all. it's part of the reason why i spend all day in a shitty office job rather than working in the music industry.
snap
i been in that situation for a while now.
Keep worrying and before long it'll be time to retire
and it won't be an issue.
yeah i
know thats the issue.
I would like to take a year off working, rent a house and record an album. I can afford to do it but i wont cos im chicken shit...*sigh*
I'll do it for you, just show me the green
thank me later
u'd have to dance for it
like a monkey not a ho
this all sounds very familar
am totally and utterly bored working in I.T. and for a while was flirting with the idea of going back to uni to try and attempt a career change. but I put it off for ages, because I didn't think it would be a go-er. however there comes a time when you have to bite the bullet and go with your insticts - think about what you would really enjoy doing in life then go for it. don't let anything stand in your way, not even self-doubt!
Ditto
But instead I just change jobs every 6 months to a year and pretend nothing's wrong. My next IT job will be great! :D
:'(
but at least you have transferable skills
my job has NONE. I can't even make them up. I have work experience, but now I'm too old to use that.
My CV is just pitiful. I get interviews for random stuff like 'Film Programmer for Lesbian and Gay Festival' and 'Work Experience Girl/Dubious Research work' at spikedonline. Basically, unpaid stuff.
My CV is woefully shit!
Went to school, got some GCSEs, did a pointless BTEC in something I'm not very good at, worked in offices ever since.
Yours HAS to be an improvement on that! :)
that film programmer one would be awesome!
it really wasn't, sarah
It was that Birds' Eye thing, so not strictly gay. But quite lesbian. It just involved watching about fifty hours of film a week and selecting the best, according to you. I suppose it would have been cool turning up to the Soho Curzon and going 'Hey, I've decided everything that's going to be on tonight' (not that I would, for fear of it being boring).
It turned out the interviewer and I were going to the same Maya Deren screening at the Tate Modern that evening. I enthused for about half an hour about Maya Deren. Then it was clear she didn't think I'd be able to fit all the work in, and I was so embarrassed about the prospect of seeing her at the screening that I just threw away my £25 ticket (not being able to give it away) and got pissed at some gig.
oh dear :(
yeah maybe i'm glamourising the idea a bit in my mind, but i think i'd love programming a festival - except if all the submissions were turgid. you'd be putting yourself on the line though, wouldn't you? scary.
u are not alone!
:)
I think your lucky you still have the option ;) 50% of population get to mid 20's and are fucked up or have had kids and need to support them.
maybe :)
but still....moan, moan, moan.
I kind of realise I'm perversely lucky not to have a job where it would be a wrench to do something less in order to get elsewhere. My friends with amazing jobs aren't massively happy, as they don't get to be 'creative' in the way they want to be, but I'd seriously be okay with a job that I wasn't embarrassed to mention.
just shuffle
in the right direction, dont try and leap :)
3 shuffles and ur there :P
i'm about to start a career that i've told myself i want to do
whether it's what i really want to do i don't know, but it'll do. i dunno, being young and idealistic i can still believe that i can make myself do anything half-decent because i don't want my life to be about work, but other things? obviously, this theory is as yet untested and probably won't stand up to testing
i love that you're in your late 20's
stuck writing short pieces occasionally
considering your username
:D
yeah, I love bogling to Aswad
: )
:D
Kinda
Although I think it's nice to be able to subsist, live where you want to live and immerse yourself in the music, books, art and films that you like while creating what you want to create.
what is that you do?
I didn't meet you at Zonino! Damn it. Good 'tache.
I did sociology
and am now doing a social research masters at surrey uni, I worried about the stats stuff too because im rubbish at maths but it is not that hard it is all based upon very similar ideas so once it clicks it is pretty easy and it is just knowing what to tell a computer to do and how to interpret the results. It is a really good course and looking the destinations of past students most have gone on to jobs in research organisations or universities (i'll probably ruin the trend though because im so bad at job interviews). I think the LSE course is very similar so should set you up well, but to do sociological research as opposed to social research you may have to think about doing a phd
well, I'd be happy doing social research
-probably should finish and do well in the degree before contemplating another four to five years of studying!
Thanks for info, and reassurance. I will need it. Surrey is very good, I've heard - LSE seemed most appropriate as it is nearby and I need to live in a city. Do you think it is a good idea to do a very specific social sciences masters, like the post-colonialism one at the LSE or does it make no real difference to what one can do afterwards with it?
I think a specific one
would be good if you are looking to work in that area afterwards, there are places like the overseas development institute and some charities where id imagine the postcolonialism one would come in very useful. But I don't know much about that course but I do know that from looking at jobs at the moment that most research positions ask for quantitative skills, some ask for qualitative skills as well but ones that just ask for qualitative are rare so I would say it is important to pick a course with the quant stuff in it. Take a look at the wensites of Natcen, GSR, BMRB to give you an idea of those kinds of jobs
thanks very much
I appreciate your help! x
thats ok
I just remembered a couple more things, the social research asscociation web page advertises research jobs so you could see what things they ask for, and if you search for sociology research on jobs.ac.uk you can look at what more sociological research jobs at universities ask for
i've just finished my degree at 21
and i don't know what the fuck i want to do. this post has made me feel alot better, thanks.
all i know is that i want to do a masters, write lots and finally get a band together. and work in a book shop to try and finance some of it.
I work in a bookshop
it is horrible
I'm in the same boat
I've got a journalism degree but, handily, it only occurred to me after graduating that perhaps journalism wasn't the career path for me. I suppose just the fact I have a degree will open doors, but I'm fucked if I know what I want to do.
don't work in a bookshop
you might never escape and you'll meet lots of would-be writers
my work is full of would-be writers. no one knows that i've actually been published, albeit sporadically, and i never mention anything i do outside. it's too depressing.
Wow...
Do you live in a house with your male skateboarding flat-mate who you pretend to be a 'couple' with and get visited by your pished landlord regularly whilst living above an eccentric painter and have a dog named Colin?
I got into my current area of work by mistake
I applied for another traineeship, but due to an admin error I found myself put forward for a role in Emergency Planning, a job I didn't think I was qualified for. They paid for me do to a diploma, which was nice.
I don't think it's a job that I take naturally to (I've never been one for planning, I like to charge into things all guns blazing and learn from my mistakes) but there's enough transferable skills to make it worthwhile, and I don't actually mind my job.
Ideally, I haven't got a clue what I'd like to do. I suffer from a short attention span, and find it hard to do any one thing for more than a few months. If I could turn back time I probably wouldn't have gone to uni, and tried to have got on an apprenticeship and learned a trade instead. (However, as my grades were quite good, I was always pushed towards going to university, despite having almost no capacity for self-motivated study!)
Your second paragraph sounds just like me!
(except I didn't go to uni)
it'd be pretty boring of you did know exactly what you wanted to do, wouldn't it?
People who think about where they want to be in ten/twenty years time should probably get out more.
I'm 22
and I'm totally confused of how to get into what I want to do. Apprently working in Health and Social care for 2 years, having a level 1 in sign language and starting a degree in social care doesn't give you enough knowledge to get a job in social services to work myself up to a social worker. WHAT GIVES. Grrrr! I'm scared of becoming a housewife.
What more knowledge do you need?
I thought a couple of years experience would have been a start.
I know. I work in an office...
...and I've been on placement 1 day a week working with people with a disability with arts and crafts. However, most places practically require a degree for the basic of admin jobs. I get made redundant from here on Sept 1, so I would like a job fast. Well, I need a job for a 1 or 2, then I can start working as a Sign Language interupter and then finish my studies in social work while I do that. Or *try* and find an assistant social worker job. However, despite claiming you need 'no experience' i still don't get called for an interview.
ARGGGGH ALL I WANT TO DO IS HELP PEOPLE!
* I need a job for a 1 year or 2
Keep trying for jobs
I'm suprised at needing a degree for an admin job! What sort of companies have you been applying to?
Social Services
I didn't mean it *literally* but with the amount of knowledge and experience that they require you might as well need it!
really?
I have a friend who did a Philosophy degree - admittedly he worked in mental health and in prisons for about four or five years before getting on a social work course. The training seems to go on for so long, I'm surprised you'd have to have much experience in order to apply for it.
My sister is a trainee mental health project worker and is volunteering at the same time, to get more experience, but she left university about a year ago as well.
It seems quite an open profession, except the training goes on quite a long time?
I wouldn't mind working in a prison
I may google that and see what it comes up with. Yes, the training is so long and so varied but in the end you practically have a job for life. I just want a job at an entry level but it's impossible at the moment :(
I'd have thought no political stance would be a good thing.
If you have one then you'd constantly be trying to angle things that way as opposed to being purely logical or unbiased about things.
Actually I remembered what I really want to do
Work for lego and either-
build loads of awesome stuff
or
design the lego sets.
Stop stealing my dream job!
We may go head to head
in the interviews.
Gah, just had a look
all the good jobs at lego appear to be in Denmark. :(
I'd win
if you want to do sociology
then I don't see that stats fear should get in your way. I'm crap at stats, most of it anyway, and so are most psychologists and psychology tends to be far more reliant on stats than sociology.
It's just something that you need to build confidence in slowly and nobody really needs to be amazingly competent because otherwise statisticians won't exist.
Also I can recommend you some good books about stats for retards, that help me a lot.
Also I'm jealous of your Glasgow thoughts. I want to go there too but don't see it's feasible.
no i havent.
want to talk about it over dinner?