Rites of Spring, Embrace et al were described at it in the 80's but we're just hardcore bands who listened to indie rock and started writing different shit.
Then in the 90's you have Texas is the Reason, Sunny Day Real Estate who were described as it... despite them being indie rock bands.
Then now you have all kinds of shit tit rolls with make up on in stadium rock bands describing themselves as such.
Plus... who's arsed...
Sunny Day, Texas is the Reason, Embrace and Rites of Spring are all fucking awesome bands.
Anyone tagged with the term now... probably isn't.
I mean... liek... it's documented what the term means. The etymology is well covered on the internet. Go read about it.
It's not a religion. What christianity means to someone is a fair enough question... but what a well documented name for music that has always been slightly ridiculed as a name... it's a slightly daft question.
she asked what it means to you, not for a documented description of the term 'emo' and it's origins.
emo is probably one of the most debatable terms in music as to what it really applies to. it all ends up just being a personal opinion on what you see as being emo. hence it isn't a daft question.
if you don't want to "discuss" music, like ThingsThatFly says below, why on earth do you bother spending time on a discussion forum? if you don't want to know other people's opinion on music, why do you even bother posting here? surely you can go and read your "documented description" without even bothering to come on DiS?
you must be the most narrow minded person in the world. i wanted to know what people think "emo" music is. NOW GET OUT OF MY THREAD you pedantic bore.
of people ripping on little kids that are a bit different.
people on DiS seem to do it all the time. we should be the ones sticking up for them, not knocking them for being alternative.
you'd expect them to get some abuse from all the pikeys they have to put up with, not people from DiS
What's alternative about it? It's a huge mainstream fad that I'm completely uninterested.
I love the idea of "alternative"... there's squillions of them and the bands dominate the charts. It obviously is an alternative to something but it doesn't represent what is traditionally meant by alternative culture.
The idea that just because you think you like "different" music you should stick together with people is just arrogant and self important. They probably don't want your support. They're too busy fighting the man by being exactly the same as eachother.
and they get persecuted a huge amount by the majority of people. they're just kids, like the average age couldn't be above 16. so what if they all dress the same? they dress and act like they do because they're passionate about a certain type of music.
and i thought the people on DiS would be more open minded than some chav insulting little kids?
I give a shit about that? Their music is shit and they're stupid and they'll see it when they grow up. Check them with their crazzzzzy alternative culture that's catered for by everyone from MTV to Top Shop... wowzzzaaa go against the grain. I'm not supporting or not supporting it... I'm just saying it's boring and stupid and to suggest that people should not be allowed to criticise it is retarded.
Whooooooooooooooo cares.
How is that self important or arrogant? It's a statement of fact.
A fairly wide sonic array of awesome American indie rock action from my youth tagged with a term that can never be used again due to the fact that a shower of know nothing fuck wits have hijacked it to use as an erroneous genre name for their third rate diet goth complaint rock.
See also: Shoegazing and Hardcore which is rapidly going the same way.
I remember Jamie Summers posting once along the lines of 'It would be like if Hepburn or an equivalent horrendous female pop act who play their own instruments *gasps* entered the charts and everyone started saying it was Riot Grrrl'.
It's not even revisionism, these people have absolutely no idea about what was going on ten years ago, let alone twenty.
It's sappy slowed down pop punk with failed attempts at hardcore breakdowns before every yelped chorus. It's nothing new, there has always been derivative music about, but they should call it something else.
I imagine fans of Delta blues feel the same way each time they hear some fat cunt in a New Era cap (label still attached, naturally) leaning against a Benz and claiming to be R&B.
Indie nerds getting defensive over bands about 50 people listen to. It's just a genre name, who cares?
By your logic, surely you could say "I imagine fans of The Smiths feel the same way each time they hear Arcade Fire claiming to be 'indie'".
It's silly. Why does the genre have to have such tight restrictions on its music? It's evolved, it's popular now, if anything it will get the kidz rooting out emo's history and the bands that first appropriated its name.
Isthisinteresting's posts are ironically very dull not to mention immature, are they really 27?
To me emo is one of two things:
1) "emo kids" - a group of people who follow emo music, or what is percieved as emo music (I know it's debateable what it actually is)
2) "emo music" - to me is simply music that's outwardly emotional, this can meen different music depending on your personality but to me it includes; Biffy Clyro (Infinity Land era), Reuben, Bright Eyes, Jeff Buckley, Jimmy Eat World, Arcade Fire.
with floppy died black hair in their eyes, topshop chic who come on here and bitch about DiS slagging off My Chemical Romance. And Rubbish plastic manufactured guitar music designed for MTV.
30 seconds to mars
alexisonfire
Fucking hell.
Why do people even debate this shit.
Rites of Spring, Embrace et al were described at it in the 80's but we're just hardcore bands who listened to indie rock and started writing different shit.
Then in the 90's you have Texas is the Reason, Sunny Day Real Estate who were described as it... despite them being indie rock bands.
Then now you have all kinds of shit tit rolls with make up on in stadium rock bands describing themselves as such.
Plus... who's arsed...
Sunny Day, Texas is the Reason, Embrace and Rites of Spring are all fucking awesome bands.
Anyone tagged with the term now... probably isn't.
whoa!
somebody forgot to chill their beans this morning!
i said,
"what does it mean to YOU"
no need to get so bloody self righteous about it.
i didn't say "what is emo?" did i? DID I????
were you in Rites of Spring and Embrace? :o
30STM aren't too emo, more poppy rock
but either way, they're awesome
and I know emo generally = poppy rock, but 30STM isn't music to slit yr wrists to.
^the exact reason
that this thread shouldn't exist.
nothing !
at all?
Well
It shouldn't mean anything to anyone because it isn't anything.
Unless of course it means being a little self harming, mid-puberty, spotty mess... and if that's the case... yay for you.
most emos are quite tall
so there.
I think you mean
Emus. They're pretty tall... for birds anyway.
no
this thread is about emos.
did i miss the emo census again?!
dammit!!!!
and i'm stone in the eyes of your foolshness.
*foolishness
If this is what I'm meant for, longer interesting
fall forward just to even the score,
just a thought to you.
tied to the testing of wills,
where my heart breaks and spills
left to the sight of the sky, in your arms i'm defined
thrown to the wolves in the minds of your enemies
CHRISTIE FRONT DRIVE
FUCKING SHITE
U R DEAF LOL
WAS ONLY JKING LOL
mineral
Why are people so interested in what things mean to other people?
I mean... liek... it's documented what the term means. The etymology is well covered on the internet. Go read about it.
It's not a religion. What christianity means to someone is a fair enough question... but what a well documented name for music that has always been slightly ridiculed as a name... it's a slightly daft question.
are you an idiot?
she asked what it means to you, not for a documented description of the term 'emo' and it's origins.
emo is probably one of the most debatable terms in music as to what it really applies to. it all ends up just being a personal opinion on what you see as being emo. hence it isn't a daft question.
boring boring boring
Stop crying.
you're the one who's boring.
if you don't want to "discuss" music, like ThingsThatFly says below, why on earth do you bother spending time on a discussion forum? if you don't want to know other people's opinion on music, why do you even bother posting here? surely you can go and read your "documented description" without even bothering to come on DiS?
you must be the most narrow minded person in the world. i wanted to know what people think "emo" music is. NOW GET OUT OF MY THREAD you pedantic bore.
yay!
go you!
!
THANK YOU for making me
WORTHLESS in your eyes
because it is a discussion board
and it is a subject of discussion, why post anything on here when it is well covered on the internet
- Rockets and bluelights
- split LPs with sappy inlays
- floor shows
i'm sick
of people ripping on little kids that are a bit different.
people on DiS seem to do it all the time. we should be the ones sticking up for them, not knocking them for being alternative.
you'd expect them to get some abuse from all the pikeys they have to put up with, not people from DiS
i'm not ripping anyone...
i don't understand?
not you
but people in this thread
"little self harming, mid-puberty, spotty mess" etc
it really gets to me whenever i see it on DiS you know what i mean?
oh, that's just one nutjob.
ignore him, he's an idiot.
I would blatently be in the black parade if I was a teenager
i was a goth
a few years ago, so i reckon they'd let me in
Alternative?
What's alternative about it? It's a huge mainstream fad that I'm completely uninterested.
I love the idea of "alternative"... there's squillions of them and the bands dominate the charts. It obviously is an alternative to something but it doesn't represent what is traditionally meant by alternative culture.
The idea that just because you think you like "different" music you should stick together with people is just arrogant and self important. They probably don't want your support. They're too busy fighting the man by being exactly the same as eachother.
thats like indie even more so
which is ironic as indie is supposed to mean independent.
I am
Completely aware of this.
I don't like indie music either.
I just like music.
basically you hate everyone, and aren't interested in other people's opinions?
they're still a minority
and they get persecuted a huge amount by the majority of people. they're just kids, like the average age couldn't be above 16. so what if they all dress the same? they dress and act like they do because they're passionate about a certain type of music.
and i thought the people on DiS would be more open minded than some chav insulting little kids?
i agree
i'm just pointing out the obvious irony.
and its nme's fault
Why should
I give a shit about that? Their music is shit and they're stupid and they'll see it when they grow up. Check them with their crazzzzzy alternative culture that's catered for by everyone from MTV to Top Shop... wowzzzaaa go against the grain. I'm not supporting or not supporting it... I'm just saying it's boring and stupid and to suggest that people should not be allowed to criticise it is retarded.
Whooooooooooooooo cares.
How is that self important or arrogant? It's a statement of fact.
no, that is your opinion.
you say all your opinions are fact
and you're just making fun of little kids. on the internet. and you're 27
How am I making fun of them?
... Is 27 too old to like music and discuss it? Wow... shit. I best stop.
too old to pick on kids
you aren't discussing!
you're acting like a self important and self righteous brat. grow up and start listening to people's views for a change.
this wasn't a thread saying emo was great.
it's a thread asking for your interpretation of emo.
now you've had your say, thanks very much. fuck off.
you seem like an expert in arrogance and self importance
'zactly.
all the ones
guntrip listens to.
^
AFAIC
Emo used to be a genre, now its a fashion style.
*still a genre
emo = alan horner
Nothing anymore.
A fairly wide sonic array of awesome American indie rock action from my youth tagged with a term that can never be used again due to the fact that a shower of know nothing fuck wits have hijacked it to use as an erroneous genre name for their third rate diet goth complaint rock.
See also: Shoegazing and Hardcore which is rapidly going the same way.
^^^
You can't say that. You're bullying kids apparently.
27 too old to laugh at kids? Are you on drugs. You're never to old to laugh at the folly of youth.
27 is much too old to pick on kids
am i on drugs? are you richard littlejohn?
It's never ever to old
to laugh at someone for doing something stupid. You must live a very very serious little existence.
does it count
that i'm laughing at you for continually making a holy show of yourself on drowned in sound?
tbh i think everyone is.
If I were a bit younger,
I'd defo become emo.
Any excuse to wear guyliner.
you don't have to be emo for guyliner!
....but it helps!
when i say emo
i usually mean the 90s indie-punk style stuff
it means jimmy eat world :)
i dont understand why people are getting wound up by this thread either
GO LAUREN!
It is bizarre though.........
I remember Jamie Summers posting once along the lines of 'It would be like if Hepburn or an equivalent horrendous female pop act who play their own instruments *gasps* entered the charts and everyone started saying it was Riot Grrrl'.
It's not even revisionism, these people have absolutely no idea about what was going on ten years ago, let alone twenty.
It's sappy slowed down pop punk with failed attempts at hardcore breakdowns before every yelped chorus. It's nothing new, there has always been derivative music about, but they should call it something else.
I imagine fans of Delta blues feel the same way each time they hear some fat cunt in a New Era cap (label still attached, naturally) leaning against a Benz and claiming to be R&B.
ah man
hepburn were awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6p42dfyJqQ
yeah, i understand where you're coming from...
i just wanted to know what the general consensus was.
general consensus
on hepburn?
I dunno you can trace the linkages
the small steps add up until you cant recognise how it got there
we're still talking about hepburn right?
Uh oh
Indie nerds getting defensive over bands about 50 people listen to. It's just a genre name, who cares?
By your logic, surely you could say "I imagine fans of The Smiths feel the same way each time they hear Arcade Fire claiming to be 'indie'".
It's silly. Why does the genre have to have such tight restrictions on its music? It's evolved, it's popular now, if anything it will get the kidz rooting out emo's history and the bands that first appropriated its name.
Well, hardly.
The Smiths were massively popular in their heyday, far more so than The Arcade Fire are now.
Besides which, in the mid/late 80s 'indie'
was more than just a haircut.
To me 'emo' is...
an anagram clue for: 'Simpsons Bartender' (3). And that's it.
There's a description of 'emo'
in the Notting Hill Tape Xchange:
Cry Baby Hardcore.
Thats what I think of when I hear the word.
This weak joke has been on here for ages now
and no-one has 'lol'ed at it.
This means that either:
a) people who click on emo threads are po-faced little self harmers with no sense of humour
or
b) it wasn't actually funny in any way.
hmm...
I've only just read it properly, sorry.
Yeah, it wasn't that funny.
*finds sharp object*
actually that's not funny either. At all. Gnnnnnuhhhh. Let's all talk about something else.
This thread is amusing.
Isthisinteresting's posts are ironically very dull not to mention immature, are they really 27?
To me emo is one of two things:
1) "emo kids" - a group of people who follow emo music, or what is percieved as emo music (I know it's debateable what it actually is)
2) "emo music" - to me is simply music that's outwardly emotional, this can meen different music depending on your personality but to me it includes; Biffy Clyro (Infinity Land era), Reuben, Bright Eyes, Jeff Buckley, Jimmy Eat World, Arcade Fire.
teenage buffons
with floppy died black hair in their eyes, topshop chic who come on here and bitch about DiS slagging off My Chemical Romance. And Rubbish plastic manufactured guitar music designed for MTV.
ths thread is brilliant
i'm off to read heartattack and listen to the witching hour back catalogue.