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When men/women do a cover of a women/man's song and change the pronouns accordingly

THIS IS SO ANNOYING
Just sing the lyrics.

I.e some indie boy band doing an ironic cover of britney spears song and changing "he" to "she" etc.



  • Like Joss Stone's Fell In Love With A Boy?

    • why is it so annoying?

      surely it makes precious little difference to the meaning of the song.

      • Yeah, but

        it denies sad fucks like me the chance to fantasise as she sings about a hot woman she's fallen in love with. And at least if she did get it on with a girl, it'd shut her up. Joss Stone makes my mind hurt.

        Joe - www.anewbandaday.com

      • I think it does.

        the original songwriter didn't write the song for it to be changed by some other singer, in accordance to their gender or beliefs. if someone writes a song with the subject being a girl, then that is how it should be sung forever more - to a girl. and similarly if it's written to a man. it's pretty much ruining the intent of the song.

        • Does that mean every cover version is ruining the song

          unless it's note for note the same? Just a different interpretation on the same plan. In fact, changing a pronoun isn't even much of a change in interpretation unless you change a line like "she had massive tits and a pink hangbag".

  • new york dolls - give her a great big kiss

    cover of the shangri las
    ps this song is awesome

  • Totally agree

    Though I did see a band with a female singer* playing a cover of Gloria and changing the lyrics to 'Melvin'. Which was mildly amusing.

    *Lesley Rankine as it happens.

  • I agree

    In most cases. Although there are a few times when it's been a little jarring to hear the wrong pronoun, mostly when it's not a well known cover. If it's an older or very obscure song, I think it's ok to change the pronouns but if it's something that's really well know, I would say stick with the original lyrics.

    • But if it's going to jar

      why not choose a different song?

      • Now I'm trying to think of an example

        I know I heard a song recently that was a cover, although I didn't know it at the time, and it sounded great but there was a pronoun that wasn't changed and I was just like... whaa?

        I'm blanking but yeah, I understand your point.

  • I like it when people make a point of it

    Like some otherwise hopeless male singer/songwriter doing a cover of Natural Woman, in a pub, somewhere in my memory.

    • *a point of not doing it

      .

      • Open up my eager eyes;

        I'm Mrs Brightside!

        That'd be good?

        • Ahh

          Too painful to even contemplate.
          ;)

        • Here's to

          you Mr Robinson.

        • I thought the

          lyric was 'eagle eyes' like Action Man.

          Bum.

  • homophobia?

    don't like the gays i bet.

  • it doesn't bother me

    my friend and i used to do a cover of BRMC's "love burns" back in the day (i.e., when we didn't live halfway across the country from each other) and we changed the lyrics to "now he's gone, love burns inside me, etc." i feel that if we had kept the "she" pronoun, it wouldn't have meant as much to either of us.

  • totally agree

    Just sing the damn song, don't change the words.

    White Stripes - Jolene
    The Raincoats - Lola

    Amazing.

    Joss Stone - Fell in Love With A Boy

    Arse gravy. If she hadn't changed it, I'd have hated it a little bit less.

  • On 'Star Power' by Sonic Youth

    Kim Gordon sings 'she knows how to make love to me'. I always imagined that Thurston Moore wrote the lyrics and then got Kim to sing them, which maybe means Kim has ended up singing about herself.

    This may not be in anyway true, but I like to think it is.

  • It's a silly thing to get pissed off about

    but I think it depends what you're trying to do with the song. Obviously doing different things produces different results and neither's better or worse.

    • God you're right!

      It's not the worst thing ever, but certainly not the best. I mean, out of all things there are many that are better, but also many that are worse. Proportionately it is neither that much better or worse than anything! Thanks for shedding the light on this.

  • The recent classic example

    of not doing this was ARCTIC MONKEYS' doing Diamonds Are Forever at Glastonbury 07 and Alex not changing any words. Considering that the song goes on about 'men' all the way through i thought this was a pretty charming thing to do in front of 50,000 people. He rather went up in my estimation.

    • also,

      arctic monkeys doing you know i'm no good by amy winehouse
      "upstairs in bed with my ex boy
      he's in the place but i can't get joy"

  • Heard someone do Glorybox by Portishead.

    It was truly terrible but peaked when he changed 'women' to 'gentleman'. It's hard to imagine but true.

  • True, The White Stripe's cover of Jolene

    is better for remaining as it was - it adds a really cool air of sexual androgony which Jack White pulls off really well.

    • "it adds a really cool air of sexual androgony which Jack White pulls off really well"

      er... not really.

  • sometimes it works though

    I like Kirsty MacColl's cover of Billy Bragg's 'A New England' (although I think he helped rewrite it for her)

  • No

    I disagree. I wanted to do a cover of Cat Power's 'Good Woman', and I couldn't really sing "I want to be a good woman", but then, I couldn't really sing "I want to be a good man" either, so I just left it.

    • And did a cover of 'Steal My Sunshine' instead

      • Most annoying example:

        All Saints' cover of 'Under the Bridge'. "The city HE loves me"...You're singing about a city, girls! I don't think you need to worry about any rabid lesbian undertones...for god's sake.

        • jesus, I didn't notice that

          and I absolutely hate when people do this. Like they are terrified of coming across as gay if they don't. Ick...

  • To be fair,

    I think had Lennon sung "since I've heard from that boyfriend of mine" in Please Mr Postman, it might not be as good.

    But I do generally agree with you.

  • FURB

  • But the Beach Boys

    turning 'Then He Kissed Me' by The Crystals into 'Then I Kissed Her' is great

  • Okkervil River's cover of 'Do What You Gotta Do' by Jimmy Webb

    is amazing for not changing the pronouns.

    Will Sheff also goes on to describe why he prefers not to change the lyrics and, although not directly relevant to the topic, I quite like his explanation:

    "I love any excuse to pretend I’m a girl when I’m singing. Not to _ sing_ like a girl, but to be a girl, within the space of the song. I think what’s so wonderful about songwriting and performance is you can try on all these personalities. You can be a girl, you can be your ideal version of you, you can fully inhabit someone you hate, you can let yourself believe things you know are bullshit. There’s such a potential for ambiguity, for emotions that utterly clash, for lies that seem real and truths you’re not allowed to say."

  • if the cover is good enough

    then you'll barely notice if the pronoun is changed or not.

    Eg Jeff Buckley's cover of Be My Husband by Nina Simone.