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I think my best friend has shafted me for £200

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by Pigfoot_

Any comments implying that means he paid to have sex with me will be frowned upon.

About two months ago, my best friend asked me for £200 to fix his car as he was skint and couldn't earn money without it. I owed him a couple of favours, so even though I didn't really have any money, I gave him £200 of my overdraft which he said he'd pay back within two weeks.

Haven't heard from him since. I've sent him four or five texts, but nothing. At first, I just assumed his phone was broken or something, but I asked one of our mutual friends and he says he's spoken to him a few times via text on the same number I have. Basically, I've narrowed it down to two options.

1. He's in more financial trouble and doesn't want to talk to me because he's ashamed he can't pay me back (not like him, but understandable I suppose - though I'd never make an issue of it)

2. He's shafted me.

It's not like we've ever gone two months without speaking before either. I'd say before this a week was the longest since we met and we had several long spells of talking every day (and when we lived in the same halls of residence, I saw him more or less every day).

If he has shafted me for £200, part of me thinks it's quite funny. It's not really a lot of money. It is for me at the moment, but it won't be once I get paid for the work I'm doing now. On the other hand, I've never trusted anyone as much as him and if he has screwed me over, I'll become even less trusting and more hateful than I am now.

Has anyone else ever been scammed by a friend? Anyone want to apply to be my new best friend? Thanks.

Pigfoot_ | 16 Jun '08, 08:43 | Send note | Report this | Reply

Try calling

not texting.

He sounds like a cock though. He could at least let you know the score - if he can't pay you back, 'hiding' from you is pretty shit.


Probably a better idea

I'll try him later.


Sounds pretty skank.

Is he at home for the summer already and will you see him next academic year?


I don't go to university anymore

so the only time I see him is when I go down to London.


Bah.

You could always tell people and see if that spurs him on (bastard centric)


I asked above-mentioned mutual

friend to see how he is and tell him to get in touch with me. But I haven't spoken to him since either.


A really good friend of mine shafted me for £100 once.

It wasn't the money that bothered me, it was more the stupidity. I mean, I am more than willing to forgive him because he was / is a really good friend and he was just a bit mixed up at the time he took the money. But now he is so embarrassed aboout taking the money that he won't dare talk to me. Real damn shame!


ah the perils of lending

money to friends


But he NEEDED the money

I OWED him a favour

What SHOULD I have done?


stressed that you wanted

the money back on a specific date, no excuses.


But I don't really

I don't mind if he calls me and says he'll get it back to me within the next four years. The money stopped being the issue a while ago, for me.


obviously

because if it was an issue you wouldn't just text him


Presumably that's sarcasm,

but I don't get it. I have texted him. Five times. With no mention of the money. You can't keep texting someone if they don't text back.


Not that sarcastic

my point being if you really wanted the money back you'd phone him or go round and visit him. It's harder to ignore that.


Oh right

In that case, sorry for assuming you were being sarcastic and thank you for not thinking I'm a money-obsessed whore.


no worries

god bless monday mornings.


I have a friend in a much the same situation

but with a much larger amount of money. He is looking into verbal agreements (apparently under scottish law they are binding, according to some) and how he can get it back as it is substatial.

Never have a mate as a land lord, like I did. I messed him about so much with bills and rent it was embarassing. Mind you, he still has my £100 deposit and has not mentioned it since I moved out.


I once lent a friend

£250 so she didn't have to go to court over rent arrears. I still haven't seen all of it back.


People

are bastards, aren't they?


People are really funny about money.

I know two men who have run away/disappeared from their families after borrowing £2k or so off their brothers that they could never hope to repay. Humiliation/male pride, some such nonsense.

It sounds like he's shafted you, but maybe he's so poor that he's between a rock and a hard place at the moment and really can't do anything about it.

I guess the question is - can you be bothered to try with him anymore?


Yeah, definitely

There's still a big part of me that thinks there must be a reasonable explanation because I can't even begin to explain how out of character doing this would be for him, if he has done it.


>:-(


good frown


It looks a bit too angry

>:-/ might be better


No

Sorry.


That Polonius guy, he knew the score

Neither a lender nor a borrower be
For loan oft loses itself and friend.


He was also a dick

I'm not listening to what he says.


never for money, several times for CDs

if you fancy scaring him into paying, you can always issue a claim form against him in the county court. costs you about £30, a slight abuse of process but might (a) motivate him to paying up or (b) motivate him to seek advice.


If he really wants to keep my £200,

I'm not going to stop him. I'd just be a bit sad to have lost my best friend over £200.


in which case you should say that to him

if he's actually in trouble he'll probably be embarrassed about it. get him to get some advice if he is.


I wish I could talk to him

If I could talk to him, there'd be no problem at all. But I can't.


I always lend something to someone with the expectation of never getting it back

it's not that I don't trust my friends, I just know that things don't always run smoothly. When I've lent money to friends I've written it off in my mind then and there but almost all have paid me back stuff they've owed and those that haven't I sort of knew they wouldn't.

That said it was never as much as £200 and it was never money I really couldn't afford to lose at that stage, which it sounds vaguely as if you couldn't. I hope this guy sorts his shit out.


Well as I say, it's not the getting it back that concerns me

It's that he hasn't spoken to me for two months. I value our friendship more highly than £200. I'm becoming concerned he doesn't, and that's not a very nice feeling, for obvious reasons. We're not just casual mates who go out sometimes. We've been through quite a lot.


Yeah, it is a tricky one.

I don't think he can be valuing your friendship less than £200. No matter how much you may think he really understands you don't care about it, etc. if he *hasn't* simply decided to take you for £200 he will still feel massively guilty.

And yeah, that's going to get worse as time goes on. I think the issue isn't helped by you sending texts that *don't* talk about it. You know, if he's really upset that he can't or hasn't paid you then maybe your next step needs to be a text along the lines of "Are you ignoring me or just really busy? £200 isn't more important than a friendship. If you're ignoring me over that then forget about it."

Obviously, if the £200 is nothing to do with it then you could end up looking like a massive cock for that one...hmm. Tricky. I think it's going to come to that point pretty soon, though.


I'm going to ring him

Right now!


No answer


go round and see him

bearing an understanding smile/disappointed look/cricket bat*

*delete as appropriate


how long

have you actually known this person for ?

Money is really bad for things like this. I lent a mate £65 in 2005, took me ages to get it back and I never got it all and he broke off contact since. A friend inherited £30,000 around 1997, let the rest of our friends know and some of them visited him every day to borrow money for booze/drugs and hit him with cynical scams like "I've decided to buy an 8-track home studio, you lend me the money but since you can come round and use it I only need to pay you half the money back in installments of £10 a month" etc. The entire £30,000 was gone in less than six months, none of them paid him back, they stopped visiting him as soon as the cash dried up and all he has to show for thirty grand is a Squier Precision bass which cost about £140!


he must have been

on drugs himself to fall for all that. People are shameless.


Hey James,

I saw you loads at ATP (Camber) taking photos but never once actually got a chance to say hi.

Sorry. :(


I've known him just under two years

I texted his flatmate three hours ago, but haven't heard anything.


Leave it for a while,

then with-hold your number maybe?

That sounds mysterious and shifty, but its logical. He won't know to avoid you unless he's wick, and you might get through to him.

If he puts it down or whatever, just smear his name. Tell everyone what's happened and what a slimey mollusc he is.


I didn't know if you'd post in this thread

but I did know that if you did, you'd give the best advice of anyone. I love being right.


Sounds like a bit of an idiot.

Firstly for telling people he'd just inherited £30,000, then for pissing it away on friends and really shit guitars.


he is a bit of an idiot

as in he's one of those people who are so nice and trusting of their friends they are a danger to themselves because they don't know how to say no. And it was the late 90's after all, those were different times, everyone so happy and trusting, didn't have to lock your doors etc


i think my friend may have stolen from me

she was notoriously untrustworthy and has stolen from almost everyone i know. dunno if she has from me, but i prefer thinking she hasnt


You should go round hers

right now, shouting the odds. If she has stolen from you, she might feel guilty and admit.


£200 IS a lot of money

I'd be annoyed about the lack of contact. If he can't pay you back he should have the courtesy to say so.


I know, instead of whinging about it on the tinternet

why don't you go round and see your friend and sort it out. You'll soon find out if they have

A) shafted you or
B) are in a bad way and need your help

either way you get to find out.


I know instead of giving sarcastic advice on the internet,

why don't you read the thread? You'll soon find out if

A) I can go round to his house
B) You're a momo

either way you get to read the thread.


nah I read your post

and that was my reply. There was nothing sarcastic about it you little twerp, it was sound advice.


You were very rude. Very rude.

I can't go round to his house because he lives about 130 miles away. And I can't drive yet. And even if I could...


You're loving this, aren't you?

I bet you've been waiting ages for a chance to rub my nose in it.


I have no idea who you are so no, you are incorrect.

It was strongly worded random internet advice thats all, now go get your money !


OK

I'll be back next week.

Because I'm walking. But oh no, don't try and stop me now because that's the advice you gave me, Mr Brilliant Advice.


I didn't say anything about walking.

Go as the crow flys, in a helicopter.


Crows don't fly in helicopters

You don't know anything. Why would I take your advice?


my ex-employer

just defrauded me to the tune of £3k, but then I can get the inland revenue to recover it.

I intend never to set eyes on any of the scummy bastards again, I'd think a similar manoeuvre would be appropriate in your case too.


harsh

Sorry to hear about your situation dude. I've seen money totally f'up loads of friendships

Harsh to say, but these situations kinda show you who's full of shite and who's not.


MASSIVE UPDATE

I've rung him about ten times over the past 24 hours (5 or 6 with withheld number). Every time it's rung, no time has he answered. If he's not using that phone, I don't believe it would be ringing. I sent a text to his housemate. No reply. I sent a text to his girlfriend (I presume she's still his girlfriend). No reply. A state of emergency has officially been called.

Is there any reason that phone would be ringing if he didn't use it anymore?

The bit I really don't get is his girlfriend ignoring me. We get on pretty well and she wouldn't put up with him scamming me out of £200. Makes me think I've done something really bad at some point. Or he's told her I have. Oh god, now I'm making unfounded accusations.


nip round?


D:


I should be your friend instead of him

I seem to be more readily available :)


Nah,

I respect your being tuff and buff, but I can't have a best friend that's ruff. Not again.


Oh.

:(


Yes plz <3


forget about it.

If its a massive conspiracy to ignore you over £200 then they're not worth it and its not worth the stress for you.

If on the other hand they have some unrelated situation going down which is why they're ignoring you then leave them to it, if he's a real mate he'll be back in touch apologising with 200 notes in hand.

there you go. advice without any sarcasm.


200 is no small amount of cash,

but not worth the stress this is obviously causing you.


I'd say it's more confusion than stress

Though confusion is stressful sometimes, so it's a fair point.

Trouble is, if I never find out what's going on it'll confuse me forever. My go-between is in Crete at the moment. Once he's back, I'm going to make a full-scale attack on the truth.