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"Real" Indie.

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by lemonbrickcombo

After a conversation with Zapsta t'other day, we realised there is so little good real "indie" stuff. I'm not talking about the brit pack, I'm talking about straight up punk influenced independent music.

So recommend me some. Along the lines of Built To Spill and Meneguar, who are getting heavy reps right now.

Gimme shock treatment, DiS.

lemonbrickcombo | 16 May '08, 10:38 | Send note | Report this | Reply

I will probably keep adding to this thread as i think of others, but:

THE WRENS
Sheryls Magnetic Aura
Copy Haho
Chin Up Chin Up
The Ponys
Oxford Collapse


^

HA!


Built to spill?

'punk influenced independent music'?

More like Neil Young shurely?

Do you mean an independent DIY attitude to everything? Surely then it's Forward Russia and the Dance to the Radio crew, keeping it real etc.

But indie? That's whatever Jo Whiley plays isn't it?


I don't mean influenced musically necessarily

but influenced by the movement. Hell, I reckon Neil Young was influenced by punk. He even did a grunge album.


^that's why I asked.

yer on the money with Neil Young, and I reckon Built to Spill have some of the great mans versatility. But aren't they bankrolled by a major stateside (Keep it like a secret was on warners)? So do you mean independent fiscally, or independent in attitude? The problem with punk is that it didn't see the difference...

Indie is difficult


Haha!

Forward Russia are a good band but they're far from DIY.

We're mainly talking about US indie. You could call it college rock if you like.

lemonbrickcombo - If you dig GBV then you should try and get hold of The Wrens - Secaucus. It's OOP and shrouded in mythical major label wrangling. The Meadowlands is their best record though.

ps, SUPERCHUNK


Hold on now, oldster...

I tried with no success whatsoever to get the phrase 'trad indie' going a while ago to represent the indiepop community that exists in the wake of janglepop/C86/shambling/anorak/twee/whatever. Now you're defining Real Indie as American/American-influenced what-was-once-deemed-slacker. This needs taking to ACAS.


maybe

Beat Happening are probably the first indie band in truth.


you cant use the term indie in any way

and have people agree with you.


the term "indie" has become so diluted

q: so, what kind of music are you into?

a: indie, basically. i like indie rock.

q: so, what kind of indie rock are you into?


^^

better than wot I wrote! And true!


From a friend's facebook:

"Favourite Music: I'm a bit of an indie at heart, stuff like the enemy, fratellis..."

You get the drift. It really is so very diluted.


I seem to recount this daily

but an acquaintance - I hesitate to say 'friend' - of mine recently remarked in polite company about "how great indie pop is at the moment, with the Hoosiers and Scouting For Girls".


.

*giggles*


haha

by 'friend' I kind of meant 'friend of a friend who I see every now and then'.

I do recount a conversation about indie pop, saying that I was liking The Unicorns record and them replying much the same as your acquaintance.


if you like long, jammy guitar tunes (built to spill),

you should check out the latest SM & the jicks record. more psychedelic/prog inspired than punk i'd say, but it's still a great record:)


desperate bicycles

its been downhill all the way,since these guys split.


i have to admit: desperate bicycles was unfamiliar

so unfamiliar, in fact, that i had to look 'em up at wiki:

"The Desperate Bicycles were an English punk group.

The band formed in 1977 as an experiment in the economics of punk's DIY methodology. Dave Papworth (drums), Nicky Stephens (keyboards), Roger Stephens (Bass), and Danny Wigley (vocals) wanted to see how cheaply they could record and release music. The result was the "Smokescreen" 7", released in an edition of 500 on their newly formed Refill label, costing them £153. The single was re-pressed in an edition of 1000 and sold out in a fortnight. The song's repeated refrain "it was easy, it was cheap go and do it!" was a call to arms to similarly inclined d-i-y punks.

Their second release, "The Medium Was Tedium" / "Don't Back The Front" 7", was released in an edition of 1000 and sold out in a week. The sleeve listed the names of some of those who had purchased the first single.

In 1978 the band released the New Cross New Cross EP, and two 7"s; "Occupied Territory" and "Grief Is Very Private".

In 1980, Papworth and Stephens were replaced by Dan Electro (guitar) and Jeff Titley (drums), and the Remorse Code LP was released, reaching number 10 on the UK Indie Chart.[1] The band split up in 1981."


coolest name of the day:

DAN ELECTRO


Oasis

Embrace


^

HA!!


You want the 'American indie'?

Oh No! Oh My!
Portugal The Man
Born Ruffians, obvs.

and second the earlier mentions for Oxford Collapse and Chin Up Chin Up.


Anything on a major label

or indie label owned by a major (Transgressive, DTTR, etc) isn't putting out indie music, regardless of how the band sounds, because it's not independant.

Portugal. The Man are great though.