vikram can call mirri a c*nt, but surely, rightly or wrongly, someone would get banned for calling someone an offensive name related to their skin colour. just because sexism is more prevalent, doen't make it right, arguably worse.
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that's not sexism.
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Oh lord...
what is it with these joke accounts?
Cos women should know better anyway.
!
lol
I appear to have missed about 30 years somewhere...
Is calling pieces_of_reece a dick sexist as well?
no, that would be fact
no,
you're one of the good guys...
True, he's still a dick though.
As am I.
a new low
I think you've found your answer.
It's at best debatable whether calling someone a cunt is sexist (I certainly don't think it is myself) where as anyone would definitely be aware that certain words relating to black or asian people are considered racist and socially inappropriate.
Blame Society if you like but it's not really DiS's fault.
who let you out of the kitchen?
I guess this is the point.
You've said that and noone will really care.
But if say Stealthy had started this thread and someone had responded "who let you out of the cotton field?" there would be uproar.
It's the double standards of the left I guess.
I don't think you can call objection to racism & sexism the preserve of the left these days.
Plus the implication of "who let you out of the kitchen?" is that you expect a woman to be treated like a 1950s housewife, which may not be equal but is still incomparable to being treated as a slave...
The lefty thing was just my usual little dig,
and not the focus of the post.
And I think the Stealthy example is directly relevant.
not really
they arent comparable. Calling a black person the 'n' word can never be done as a joke.
i would have responded in the same way to 99% of threads. in jest.
I had made no mention of 'the N word'.
You have given a retort to a point that was never made.
Is your real name
Peter Foster?
The Cherie Blair house guy?!
funny how its ok for you to do that
but no one else.
also considering the fact it clearly was a joke
playing on the issue the thread outlined.
Sure but I think GG's point
is that it's okay to make ironic sexist jokes but more people'd be pissed off if you took the 'ironic racism' root...
I see his point but I still don't think the two are comparable.
I don't think DiS
has a history of not accepting ironic racism. Unless a lot has changed in the last year.
But I think more people get offended by it. Possibly.
Hard to know
Yeah, but what if my
theoretical Stealthy/cotton field post was clearly just a joke?
Then he and most people
would probably take it in the humour it was meant.
I don't think they would,
especially if it was me or Wrighty that posted it.
well then the intent is changed
given the kinds of views on race etc. you and wrighty hold
That's more to do with your reputations
than the content, then. Right or wrong.
can you joke about slavery etc.?
i dunno. saying women belong in the kitchen is something i obviously dont beleive and i think anyone with half a brain (so this includes you) could see that and not take offence from it. the conotations you drew from skin colour cant really be joked about.
Yeah,
but I don't *really* think that black people should be slaves.
According to your own argument, as long as there is a seperation and the words you use and they way think, you can say anything? So why can't I joke about slavery? I don't actually believ in it you see...
you can really
but its just not really advisable given that it would upset a lot of people. i think DiS accepts when people are being ironic.
Jeez, I just read this back?! It makes no sense.
It should say:
As long as there is a seperation between the words you use and the way you think, you can say anything?
yeah
you can say anything anyway, but its just not really advisable given that it would upset a lot of people. i think DiS accepts when people are being ironic.
Context is everything
My best mate always makes jokes most people would class as racist with a couple of our black friends. And they make jokes back. I think it's great. Shows they're all completely comfortable ripping each other and there's no malice intended.
If the same jokes were made in a room with only white people, I'd be a lot less comfortable with it. A lot of humour is as much about where it's said and to whom as much as the actual content itself.
So yeah,
you can say what you want without offending anyone, as long as you do it at the right time with the right people.
exactly ^
welcome back
^
Was your best mate thrown off Big Brother last summer?
No
But I don't think whatshername should have been for what she said. I think it's a neagtive step more than anything.
*negative
*niggertive
so the right see nothing wrong with racism then?
I don't know,
i'll go and ask them.
it's not sexism
Racist.
Bongss?
i swear i saw this this
thread on doa last week
I said cunt in front of my mum once
she went apeshit.
apeist
it is sexist
because it was a term used in offense and related to her sex.
calling someone a 'dick' is ok, because men dominate women in society, so it's ok to throw that stone. like a black person calling a white person a honky.
no it's not sexist
bollocks
I take it from the completely illogical reasoning
that this is a joke anyway?
:D
Oh my christ
I assume you're holding a lighter to your bra as we speak?
That's a silly line of thinking.
The latter part I think. Clearly any attempts for an equal society have to imply equality, not accepting prejudice from some but not from others.
For example, using your latter example, there might be more white people than black people in the UK but in an environment where there were, say, 10 black people and 1 white person the black people continuing racially insulting the white person would be racist bullying and not some misguided way or righting a historical wrong.
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*tries to mask ignorance of what above stands for...*
"you have been trolled"
I think.
Ah right...
I know it's probably a joke thing and am under no illusions but I decided to argue the point anyway.
hahahahahaha
Hahaha
'Honky'
HONK HONK HONK
Love music - Hate racism
Believe
calling someone
a honky or a dick is a joke, i've never seen a man sexually bullied or a white person racially bullied.
Maybe you haven't but it happens.
I have a friend who would argue that point thouroughly.
youre a fucking idiot then
Cracker, please...
This is a joke yeah?
im begining to think not
She's a fucking bitchcunt then.
back to the kitchen!
You said c*nt
but you meant CUNT right?
vikram wasn't being ironic
when he wrote it.
why is it not sexist to call a woman a cunt? no-one's giving any reasons.
clicheguevara is correct about the double standards.
black people were slaves and women used to be the property of men. rape within marriage was only made illegal in 1990.
You're not giving any reasons why it is sexist.
You're giving absolutely no explanation of what whether or not someone calls a woman a cunt has to do with rape being made illegal in marriage in 1990.
No-one's claiming women didn't used to be the property of men but the word cunt has bugger-all to do with that.
surely
if someone is a cunt, its offensive no matter what gender it is directed at.
if i call a black person a "fucking twat" does that make me a racist? or am i just saying "i think you're a twat"
i personally think the latter, but im in the mindset of "people are people" call me weird, but... yeah, if someone is a bellend, they're a bellend no matter what the colour of their skin is.
no you daft cstarnt
if he meant cunt I'm guessing he would've typed it, kapisch?!
you're making me sexist!
It worries me
that even though this may well be a joke, it demonstrates the potential level of stupidity in the world
Hi
i did explain why it is sexist...
'it was a term used in offense and related to her sex'.
i may be stupid, so break it down why calling a woman a cunt is not sexist.
In Britain,
'cunt' has come to mean someone annoying or unpleasant. It's non gender-specific and in no way sexist.
You can call both men and women cunts
so, despite the fact that cunt is obviously used as a crude term for women's genitalia I don't think you can say the use of the term as an insult was related to her sex.
cunt can be gender-specific
it's still commonly used as a term for women's genitalia.
it doesn't matter that men can be called cunt's too, i've been called a n*gger-lover, but am white.
still means that calling a black person a n*gger is racist.
Fuck off, you cunt.
Sorry. You're annoying me now.
right
'fuck off, you cunt'
the usual response when an argument has been lost, nice one.
Absolutely
Your arguments blew me out of the water.
that analogy made sense...
:D
meant to say *not sure that analogy made sense.
Not sure where the first three words went.
This is why I post very little on the Social anymore
It's literally filled to the brim with complete idiots.
I've never called anyone a C*** in my life and always found the irony hilarious whenever hearing someone use that word to describe another human being. Perhaps i was brought up better. La de dah with my gold shoes and sparkly eyes.
you're a man
it's like finding the irony hilarious when a black person is called a n*gger, not cool.
Absolutely no idea what you're slabbering on about
you've never called anyone a cunt in your life?
Really??????? :O
FAO furryfan
I'm going home now but please give up. You are wrong, simple as. The word cunt, as an insult, does not derive from female genitalia. If you really want to fight a pointless semantic war, look up the eytomology (sp?) of the word 'vagina'.
Now fuck off and stop being such a right-on bellend