Privately educated DiSers only please.
If you or your parents have ever voted for anyone other than the Conservative & Unionist Party you're going to have to post elsewhere. We may make a possible exception if you voted Liberal Democrat in a tactical move aimed at denying Labour victory in your constituency. If you're an incredibly wealthy trustafarian type who votes Green, that's okay too.
Suffice it to say that the Breakfast/Dinner/Tea contingent aren't welcome either, neither is anyone who watches ITV or reads any newspaper other than The Times, The Daily Telegraph or the FT.
Actually, you have to prove familial representation at the Battle of Agincourt too.
kthxbai.
I went to a private college
does that count? My mother is also currently a director in a big capitalist business, do you like me yet?
This sounds promising so far........
Agincourt could be the sticking point though. Were there any Norwegian types there at all?
i bet there were some vikings involved
(HI)
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How far's your private education and middle class upbringing gotten you, Alex?
(Serious question ,btw)
I'm the director of ICI
Ha, yeah.
Seriously, though, i mean compared to people of the same age who maybe weren't born to teachers, how financially better of are you now/likely to be, how better is your standard of life, how more educated/worldy are you?
*off
also, "how more educated"?!?
I wasn't born to teachers
You're taking this thread seriously, oh dear.
Is he?
Seinfeld can get away with answering questions
with questions, but then Seinfeld is a funny guy.
Serious posts on a non-serious thread.
Do you see?
no -
i have can been blinded.
ha, not at all.
i couldn't really give a monkeys. I'm quite sure you take yourself more serious than anyone, anything, maybe ever. And if not, then...TACHE!
Well, I'm glad you've calmed down now.
Why don't you go down the chippy and buy yourself something life shortening?
don't answer questions with questions, noob.
oh
i love the word noob!
Oh, wow.
All threadz deadly serious
OR -
a perfect opportunity...
for you to take things too seriously.
haha -
fail.
Would you actually fuck off back to ATP
You can sit in one of the chalets and wait til' EITS.
No,
I'd really rather not. My house is comfy, I have food here etc. Also, seeing people type that is becoming a wee bit fun :)
Eh?
The first statement probably applies to the majority of people on here!
Privately educated?
I certainly wasn't.
Neither was I.
But I find that the vast majority of indie folk tend to have attended either a private or a grammar school. I am certainly in the minority amongst my friends of that persuasion.
I would doubt it
even on this kind of site, where the demographics are extremely slanted.
Raished in th'ood.
No,
not that either. However, the first 10 years of my life were spent in Bellshill and Viewpark, and I'm sure you're aware, they are not exactly streets of gold.
I was privately educated.
It didn't get me anywhere.
I failed all of my exams, never went to University. And worked on a building site for 9 years.
^ that's pretty beautiful.
I'm okay now. Iwas lucky enough
to get into civil engineering, and then worked my way up. I'm a trainee architectural design review manager now.
(just had to get that in)
nice work :)
Cheers ;-)
Whilst I am sceptical regarding the academic merits of private school,
I do sometimes wonder if there isn't a grain of truth attached to the argument that private schooling builds greater confidence. Certainly the majority of my travel minded friends with exciting lives tend to have attended a posher school. Whenever I've been travelling myself, I've invariably been the only ex state school lass in the group.
something to do with money perhaps?
But plenty of middle class kids attend state schools too.
And, is private school even THAT expensive? Plenty of my friends from pretty ordinary backgrounds (children of teachers, social workers etc) were privately educated.
of course they do
but there is a correlation between money and attendance at private schools. Additionally though yes I do think they tend to instil greater (often misplaced) intellectual and social confidence.
I think that
the age old saying that "money can't buy you happiness, but it can certainly buy you options" - offers a great deal to explaining why this happens. The more experiences you have in life, be it travelling or just generally socialising within different groups, then the more socially confident you are likely to be...perhaps.
that argument doesn't necessarily hold though...
i've lived in several different countries, travelled allover the world, attended comprehensive schools all my life... my parents still managed to fund travels without shitloads of money.
see above
it's just an association
god, see above
ugh sorry
Good on 'em!
That's what I intend to do. Teach all over the world.
yep!
i intend to follow in their footsteps! I'm going to a conference in New York soon, i'm so excited about travelling for educational purposes. Ahhh!!!!
I attended a 'posher' school,
and I do agree that perhaps a greater sense of confidence was built from the experiences I gained whilst at this school. It was certainly a great opportunity for me to socialise and mix with people from many different countries - and without a doubt an insightful part of my life.
my worst experience of schooling..
was definitely in the UK. I was bullied for actually wanting to do well in school. Which is a load of shit. I've never before lived in a country where it's apparently 'cool' to be a dumbass.
This is why I plan to teach abroad,
and abroad only.
Whenever I mention my vague plans, I invariably get the tiresome question of, "Why don't you want to teach in this country too?" The answer seems so mind numbingly obvious that I almost don't want to dignify with a response.
I beleive you mentioned this to me before.
I think it's great. Good for you! It's odd how our developed society seems to have had a somewhat adverse effect on attitudes towards schooling, isn't it?!
i can imagine how thoroughly disheartening it would be..
..to teach in this country...
post grad university lecturer yes... anyone younger? not a chance in hell.
what does public school mean in the UK?
is this a posh school?
and then there's private schools. whats the difference?
what's the normal bog standard school that everyone else goes to? does that have a name?
public schools are private schools
this makes no sense to me!
in pretty much every other country.. i've been to public schools. but these are the bog standard scummy ones that don't cost money. 'public'.. obviously because they're available to the public...
i'm confused.
comprehensive school
Public>Private>Bog standard (commonly referred to as comprehensive)
That's my understanding anyway. You tend to find all sorts of regular middle class people in private school, whereas public schools are more for the upper classes. I think?
Ohhhhhhh
thanks. i understand now, although it still makes no sense to me why they carry those names.
comprehensive, then. ah yep... i'm one of those then...
No.
A public school is just a form of private school usually for pupils between the ages of 13-18.
The whole 'upper class' (the landed gentry? There aren't enough of them left) middle class breakdown is way off.
confused again.
'Public' school is actually outdated,
'independent' school is more accurate.
The term 'public school' dates back to an age when most school were church schools which were only open to members of the relevant denomination.
By way of contrast 'public schools' were open to anyone who was willing to pay the fees, regardless of religion.
Obviously, this term predates the provision of universal free education.
ahh they makes much more sense.
cheers, i've been pondering this for years.
that*
Is it?
Why is the quintessential toff commonly referred to as being, "an ex public schoolboy", then? I don't get it.
public schools
are basically the set of oldest and most prestigious private schools e.g Eton, Harrow, Repton, Charterhouse etc. and so I would guess tend to have the highest fees and the biggest "toff" quotient
That was my assumption.
Incorrect, see above.
not incorrect
I was attempting to answer wsmd's question which relates to common perception. According to wikipedia there is no absolute definition of a public school because as you say it is an outdated term. However it is still commonly used to refer to variously defined subgroups of prestigious independent schools.
So there's no actual difference, it's merely a fairly useful moniker.
That makes lots of sense.
as far as I can see yes
'Toff' is a relative term.
It's usage often says more about the insecurities of the person who uses it than the target.
'Upper class' is banded around a lot, in reality only a tiny fraction of the UK population could reasonably be categorised in this way.
is it akin to your usage of the term
class warrior?
Ahhh....the Oxford educated class warrior returns.
Greetings Comrade!
ah the unexpected return of the class warrior sting
I don't see where I went to university having any relevance at all. Where did you go to university?
School of Hard Knocks me.
You'd only look down on my alma mater anyway ; )
Oh, bollocks
'insecurities of the person who uses it' - you patronising twat. Get out.
Haha!
Struck a nerve have I?
Inadvertently offending petulant little cunts like you just never gets old.
and on and on and on
it just never stops. I disagree - it does get very old, and very quickly.
Bye then!`
You going?
Good. There a far too many smug cunts around here
Certainly amongst the newer members, hey?
Are you coming to Zonino 3.5, I'd love to wind you up to your face!
x x x
Private primary school for 3 years
Also my cousin has dated Prince Harry - I win this thread.
My brother used to play rugby against him.
damn you posh boy
but has he chatted with him at the Polo?
Ha!
Would now be the time to mention that I used to live in Tidworth and our house backed on to the British Army Polo Club?
I've never met the guy personally, I'm assured that he seemed perfectly nice though. This was way back when, pre-Diana's death.
My high school
(for some reason Worcestershire has a 3 tier system) was in special measures, and i now go to an Ex-Polytechnic university.
Can i apply to be one of your butlers please?
"Special measures"?
It's the term used when a school becomes subject to
...I've got to avoid using the term 'special measures'!.....strict monitoring in a attempt to turn around it's performance. The ultimate sanction would be the closure of the school.
*an
I was aware of the gist, yes.
I was merely wondering what form those special measures might take. Mostly as my secondary school was never subjected to anything of the sort, despite a dreadful league table result each year.
It basically means
OFSTED came in, saw what was going down, and kind of said "shape up or fuck off".
The report was hilarious though. Some kids in my year actually played basketball with used newspapers and a bin whilst the inspector was sat right next to them.
As I mentioned above,
I am mostly curious due to the fact that my old school was never subjected to such a thing. Those young upstarts you mentioned probably would have represented a large part of my year.
i...
went to a private montessori nursery school?
does it count?
oh
and i went to a montessori primary school for a bit untill we moved houses too.
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People who don't shop at Primark for non ethical reasons